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Yes. 76 50.67%
No. 74 49.33%
Total: 127 votes
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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/zcohencnn/status/1385046067251666944?s=21

Me sowing etc

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s incredible how quickly the capitol insurrection was publicly forgotten.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Meanwhile fox news playing stock footage of riots while talking about Chauvin.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

MrMojok posted:

I'm going to show my ignorance and naivete here, but what in the hell kind of drone can penetrate a carrier's escort screen, then hover directly over the flightdeck, without getting shot down?

Any of them. It's international waters and international airspace. Anybody has the right to fly there.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
luv 2 plastic bag my tiny wood

https://twitter.com/cbfplr/status/1385081742290300932?s=19

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Stultus Maximus posted:

It's international waters and airspace.

:hmmyes:

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Waving around hundreds of dollars of merchandise in a parking lot trying to invite a robbery

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

shame on an IGA posted:

Waving around hundreds of dollars of merchandise in a parking lot trying to invite a robbery

If he bought that for hundreds of dollars then I need to start selling wood

If you painted Trump on it you would probably have a steady market.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

boop the snoot posted:

If he bought that for hundreds of dollars then I need to start selling wood

If you painted Trump on it you would probably have a steady market.

lumber prices are basically meme stocks this year it is insane

a 2x4x8 is >$10

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Of course it was another White Supremacist shooting, and the FBI is only downplaying it....


Well, he can thank Trump, because between Trump's embargos on imported lumber and COVID, this is the result.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 22, 2021

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Wholesale lumber has set a new all time high every single day this month

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
The House is voting on DC statehood today.

Is there any reason to give a poo poo? Does it have a chance of getting through all the way to statehood?

How would this open the door for PR?

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Last i knew when there was a vote in PR about seeking statehood it didnt pass but that was before trump

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




boop the snoot posted:

The House is voting on DC statehood today.

Is there any reason to give a poo poo? Does it have a chance of getting through all the way to statehood?

How would this open the door for PR?

sure

no

probably has zero bearing on it

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Stravag posted:

Last i knew when there was a vote in PR about seeking statehood it didnt pass but that was before trump

What?

PR has voted majority statehood 3 times since 2000.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Shapiro sure is confident he won't be killed by the mob he continuously stokes. If only that confidence extended to arousing his wife

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
The only way you're going to get DC admitted as a state is if somehow five Democratic Senators not only shift and support DC statehood, but also vote to kill off the filibuster. That's not going to happen.

The obvious compromise solution is to make both DC a state and make Puerto Rico a state at the same time. Puerto Rico tends to vote Republican, but they're also not white. So Republicans will never let that one happen.


TCD posted:

What?

PR has voted majority statehood 3 times since 2000.

The PR statehood votes are always kinda goofy. Last one the anti-statehood residents just flat boycotted the vote. Turnout was 23%.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Sad that shorty had to go to the store to get wood.

A real man wakes up with it.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

facialimpediment posted:

The only way you're going to get DC admitted as a state is if somehow five Democratic Senators not only shift and support DC statehood, but also vote to kill off the filibuster. That's not going to happen.

The obvious compromise solution is to make both DC a state and make Puerto Rico a state at the same time. Puerto Rico tends to vote Republican, but they're also not white. So Republicans will never let that one happen.


The PR statehood votes are always kinda goofy. Last one the anti-statehood residents just flat boycotted the vote. Turnout was 23%.

There was another vote in 2020.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/puerto-rico-votes-favor-statehood-island/story?id=74055630

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I have some 1x10s and a couple scrap pallets laying around, do I ebay them for highest bidder or trade them for a used car on craigslist.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

boop the snoot posted:

The House is voting on DC statehood today.

Is there any reason to give a poo poo? Does it have a chance of getting through all the way to statehood?

How would this open the door for PR?

Like most of the other bills the House has passed this session, DOA until something changes with the filibuster.

PR is more complicated. There's actually two bills that are currently being considered right now—one that would fund a "this time for realsies" direct referendum on statehood that would result in automatic admission if successful, and a "Self-determination" bill that would fund a convention that would explore more options (Statehood, various changes in territorial status, independence, etc.) before sending out various recommendations out to be voted on.

The argument for the Self-Determination Bill is straightforward—it allows PR to explore the widest variety of options available, not just statehood. On the other hand, it would be a longer, more deliberative process with an unclear timeline and muddied results, that may ultimately end as "mostly the same but slightly different" status for PR. The pure Statehood bill also has the argument backing it that PR just had a statehood referendum that passed with a clear majority back in November with relatively high turnout—so why bother wasting time when we already know what the majority of Puerto Ricans want?

Anyway, these two bills are battling in committee, one will eventually be chosen, and will probably pass—unlike DC statehood, PR isn't a slam-dunk +2 D Senators, so the statehood bills already have some Republican support and might not be filibustered.

So, that's where things are right now.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

I don't know how people don't like him. He's our greatest living comedian

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Milo and POTUS posted:

I don't know how people don't like him. He's our greatest living comedian

He sounds exactly how you expect him to sound while he gets in your face over looking at his truck wrong, which will never make me not laugh

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Passing along more information about that "missing" Indonesian submarine from the OSHA thread of all places:

Safe working depth for that class of submarine is apparently 250m.

Estimated ocean depth where it went down ranges from 600 to 700m.


Yeah, they're almost certainly all dead and we just haven't found the debris yet. Best hope at this point is that someone's sonar picked up the implosion noises.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary that would suggest this round of tensions is about to go hot? Zelensky is just blustering to appeal to the domestic audience and encourage allies to support him; Putin's still playing at his own grandstanding escalation. Ukraine sure af ain't gonna initiate hostilities and Russia is very unlikely to barring Putin huffing his own farts more than usual.

The Russian troop buildup on the Ukrainian border is arguably outside of what's typical for military exercises, and the water shortage in Crimea provides a strategic justification for some kind of a surge or a direct deployment of Russian troops. It's not impossible that Putin is going to try a limited direct invasion to step on Ukraine, restore water to Crimea, and undercut Biden at a time when he's under a lot of domestic pressure for how he handled Navalny and pissed off about Biden calling him out.

It's not inevitable, but the folks I know in Ukraine are more freaked out and more prepared for a conflict escalation than they have been in years.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Seems like things are set to cool off shortly. Or explode. :confused:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1385202284037087232

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Ukraine calling Russia’s bluff and Russia backing off is....


...unsettling.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


I mean, if they decide to invade tomorrow then it would technically be an end to a troop buildup along the border.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

facialimpediment posted:

Seems like things are set to cool off shortly. Or explode. :confused:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1385202284037087232

oh thank loving god

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

“We just wanted to see if you’d notice” - Putin, probably

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Anxiously awaiting the "completely unprovoked hostile action" taken by totally Ukrainian troops and not Russian mercs that reverses this and "justifies" the invasion.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

facialimpediment posted:

Seems like things are set to cool off shortly. Or explode. :confused:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1385202284037087232
They'll end the troop buildup near Ukraine by moving those troops into Ukraine.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
That was kinda close

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Russia doesn't normally make this much noise though about a coming attack, and there's been a lot of noise and threats from them lately. You can move a lot of equipment around if you have a lot in storage and don't have to move it very far. Doesn't mean the russians are actually mobilising anything expensive to deploy.

I can't tell what they're doing yet but they want us to look at it.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
So what happened in Israel last night anyway?

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Cythereal posted:

Passing along more information about that "missing" Indonesian submarine from the OSHA thread of all places:

Safe working depth for that class of submarine is apparently 250m.

Estimated ocean depth where it went down ranges from 600 to 700m.


Yeah, they're almost certainly all dead and we just haven't found the debris yet. Best hope at this point is that someone's sonar picked up the implosion noises.

Is it confirmed that 600m+ will implode a submarine of this class? I thought that kind of information was all pretty tightly controlled


Also with Russia - their economy has to be hurting pretty bad with the kinds of hits Covid has had on oil prices, right? Edit: yeah, according to RT this is the first month in a while they have shown any growth.

Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 22, 2021

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Grip it and rip it posted:

Is it confirmed that 600m+ will implode a submarine of this class? I thought that kind of information was all pretty tightly controlled


Also with Russia - their economy has to be hurting pretty bad with the kinds of hits Covid has had on oil prices, right? Edit: yeah, according to RT this is the first month in a while they have shown any growth.

Math. Math says it would not survive.

Unless that boat was made out of materials that are normally used in certain russian sub construction and it went that deep its gone.


edit :
I didn't realize the test depth was so deep for that class. 500M is pretty deep.

It would be possible to be alive then yes. But I do not remember how deep our rescue craft can operate.

Test depth is the the deepest a sub can go and be able to emergency blow and get to the surface without propulsion. Crush depth is always deeper than that but not by a huge amount.

The biggest problem they will have is freezing to death if the pressure hull is intact.

ded fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 22, 2021

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Wikipedia says test depth for the class is 500m. Wikipedia also says that Germany sets the test depth at half the design depth which would actually mean the crush depth should be greater than 1000m?

Is there better info on all this?

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

FrozenVent posted:

So what happened in Israel last night anyway?

As far as is being reported today, a Syrian SAM fired at an Israeli plane, missed, and it landed near an Israeli nuclear site.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 22, 2021

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