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Feels like the Hollywood thing where they just can't understand that you can have cyborgs and soldiers and ninjas and monsters all in the same movie, and so they have to give everything some common source.
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This movie was exceptionally loving bad. How does a guy wearing half of a rubber animatronic Goro suit on his shoulders more than 20 years ago look better than whatever the hell this warcraft orc Goro was. Thank god there was 20 different exposition scenes in the first 40min or else i wouldnt know mortal kombat is about people fighting monsters. Dont even watch this go watch the 95 movie instead you'll have a better time. Its not even entertainingly bad.
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Apr 23, 2021 10:01
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This is not a good movie. But it is also a great movie. I enjoyed the poo poo out of it. Just don't expect anything deep, consistent or engaging on a level that doesn't revolve around FATALITIES and you'll have a blast.
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Apr 23, 2021 10:53
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Gavok posted:It also leads to one of the stupidest moments I've seen in a movie in recent memory. All the chosen warriors have what amounts to mutant powers that need to be unlocked through whatever dramatic moment. Liu Kang has fire, Kano has a laser eye, Kung Lao has... his razor hat. Anyway, after Jax gets his arms shattered, some Shaolin monks replace them with skinny prosthetics. He has metal arms, but they're like bones and look pathetic. When he has a dramatic moment where he needs to save Sonya, his powers kick in via his skinny metal arms suddenly transforming into bulky cybernetic arms. That's his innate ability. What the gently caress? It made perfect sense* to me Jax unlocks super-strength and if he wasn't messed up he would've gotten like Hulk Hands or something, but the prosthetics bulked up into these cyber-ripped jackhammers instead, seems pretty straightforward. *insofar as anything in this goofy as gently caress "embrace your inner quarter-circle low punch" training plot does
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Apr 23, 2021 11:02
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Mortal Kombat 2021 vs Mortal Kombat 1995 MK2021 - Game accurate special abilities - Way better Kano - Game accurate Kung Lao - Shittier reptile - Absolute waste of Goro MK1995 - Way better Goro - Way better Shang Tsung - Way better reptile - Way better Raiden - Johnny Cage vs Scorpion is better than any fight in MK2021
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Apr 23, 2021 12:15
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There were definitely issues with the film but if you set realistic expectations it was good fun. In the final fight I was waiting for cole to transform into scorpion. I thought during the goro fight that the armor appearing was like a halfway step to becoming scorpion. But then in the final fight as he's about to die and scorpion's kunai comes behind and into subzeros shoulder that put a fuckin huge smile on my face. also when king lao fuckin sweeper kano 3x in a row and made him jump the third time just to sweep him again was topkek. I remember doing that poo poo to my friends back in the day.
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Apr 23, 2021 12:22
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It's a good thing I streamed this on HBOMax instead of seeing it in theaters, because being able to skip however many seconds at a time until a fight starts and then rewind to the leadup of the fight made the movie a lot better than having to endure the exposition (as if anybody that goes to see the movie is going to be ignorant about what Mortal Kombat is about). Same basic plot as the animated Scorpion's Revenge movie mixed with the original 1995 movie, with minor differences for live-action vs. animation. Also no Johnny Cage until the nod at the end with the poster. When OG Scorpion showed up was a pretty good moment, but other than that it isn't super great. 
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Apr 23, 2021 12:48
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Sheriff Falc posted:This is not a good movie. Pretty much how I feel about it. I mean, it's a movie about a video game that solely revolves around beating each other to death. It's the movie equivalent of a Mortal Kombat game and that's all it is. I mean, it would have been cool if they were able to create a story out of that but it's kind of hard. I guess they could have done like a prequel where the tournament is created, but if you are just given what Mortal Kombat is then you don't exactly have a bunch to work with. So, in that respect, it's a great movie. I do want to see a sequel and they did a great job with the Johnny Cage tease at the end. Mortal Kombat 2 could be a way better movie if they just focus on the stupidity and humor of it all and go with what is essentially combat porn. Honestly, they did that with Kano and he was the best character in this movie, by far. Do that, just more of it. Edit: to add one thing in that movie that absolutely cracked me up was Kano quietly going "waah waah" off screen when Cole Young asks Sonya where her marking is and her replying she doesn't have one. ShowTime fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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This absolutely felt like an abridged version of a series rather than a big feature film. Which made it a perfect watch for HBO Max. I thought the characters, fights, and general technical elements were a lot better than the first but the plot is definitely weaker. The first one actually setting up a tournament ala Enter The Dragon worked really well whereas here having Shang Tsung trying to cheat and kill everyone before there even is a tournament made everything feel kind of rushed toward the end trying to fit everyone's X vs. X fights in. Overall, I enjoyed it and thought it was comic booky as hell. Kano ruled and Scorpion was a badass.
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Apr 23, 2021 14:12
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G-III posted:Mortal Kombat 2021 vs Mortal Kombat 1995 I haven't seen MK2021 but i'm gonna stop you right there: no
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Apr 23, 2021 14:13
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Just saw it a swell, found it pretty solid for what it is, but falling short of its potential. Mostly it just wasted way too much time on exposition (and delivering it in a pretty bland way) an generally people not fighting. Once the movie actually does get its poo poo together and the fighting starts, it picks up immensely. In retrospect it showed just how much the '95 movie was helped by having the likes of Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa and Christoper Lambert along to deliver exposition while being very entertaining to watch at the same time. In terms of the actual story, it was little surprise that the Cole Young character ended up being pretty superfluous. What did surprise me was how even with the plot written around him, it still felt like Sonya would have made for a much better primary protagonist. She actually knows what's going on, she's invested in it, and she has that internal conflict about not having a mark. Cut out everything to do with Cole, instead start out with her finding out about the tournament and researching it, culminate with capturing Kano, then go from there. Now you got an actually involved and invested protagonist, and you save yourself a bunch of dry exposition in the middle. Still, overall a good time. Kano was an unexpected delight and stole the show anytime he was on screen. Uncle Boogeyman posted:I haven't seen MK2021 but i'm gonna stop you right there: no It's true, tho. 2021 Kano had me grinning all the time. Ear... to ear 
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Apr 23, 2021 14:36
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teagone posted:I really despise film criticism these days The line is spoken out in the movie, which may be why they all use it
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Apr 23, 2021 14:36
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The first 13 minutes of the movie are dope, the rest of the runtime does not live up to it. Sub-zero is easily the best part of the movie, all the characters dicking with kano a distant second. Needs less Cole, more Scorpion.
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Apr 23, 2021 15:28
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This movie was pretty dumb, but it mostly worked for me and didn't drag much. Honestly, my biggest gripe is that the camera shook and cut away a little too often during fight scenes. Trim the exposition, let the fights breathe a bit more and keep the action clear with more impact.
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Apr 23, 2021 16:05
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certainly not the worst mk movie but close to the dullest
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Apr 23, 2021 16:34
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Also as a fun callback to the original Mortal Kombat movie Raiden is just as useless as in the first movie One thing I never understood about the lore is that they say the elder gods created 6 realms, but in multiple characters' backstories they also say things like "X was from a realm that was conquered by Outworld", presumably by winning MK tournaments against them. I'm not sure if they just retconned all of that later or if there are minor realms or what, but I think at least Nitara was supposed to be from "a realm of vampires" or something. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I haven't seen MK2021 but i'm gonna stop you right there: no Just wait. This Kano does a fantastic job and semi carries the movie. He's like 75% of the comedy in this movie. The plot and dialogue are like 20% of the rest of it and Sonya/Jax try to take up the other 5%, but fail. I hope they make a MK2 with a better story, as in, assembling the fighters, their backgrounds, then entering the next tournament and it taking place. Note that this tournament didn't happen and has to take place "before the next full moon". So the next one, if they do it, would be like a couple weeks after the events of this one. I hope they can get a decent Johnny Cage and bring in some of the favorites. They teased Kitana and Nightwolf, but I want to see some Smoke. I didn't catch who the pendant alluded too.
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Apr 23, 2021 16:58
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I’m sure I’ll enjoy this Kano but let’s not forget that the whole reason Kano got retroactively made Australian in the first place was because the dude in MK1995 was so good.
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Apr 23, 2021 17:23
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Notty Cage’s first scene was so boring it put me to sleep and I didn’t wake up til the last fight of the movie.
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Apr 23, 2021 17:30
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I knew I was in for a bad time when the title card came up...accompanied by generic orchestral music? What the gently caress?
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Apr 23, 2021 17:35
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Kano was absolutely the highlight and I hope he returns in the sequel somehow. Sub Zero was another standout. I am ready for Noob Saibot in the sequel. During one of the last scenes, I was just waiting for Cole to say "I don't speak Japanese." Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:This movie was pretty dumb, but it mostly worked for me and didn't drag much.  Movie good, could've been better. Bring on the sequel!
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Apr 23, 2021 18:13
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ShowTime posted:I didn't catch who the pendant alluded too. That was the Amulet of Shinnok, basically the God of the Netherealm. Quan Chi wants it to supposedly free Shinnok but may or may not just want the power within it for himself. It plays a bigger role in later Mortal Kombat games but for this film it's just an easter-egg/nod to things that will happen in later movies if they're ever made.
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Apr 23, 2021 18:14
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Not great, not terrible, glad I saw it once, double-featuring with the original is the one time I see myself ever watching it in its entirety again Loved Jax and the fatalities. Best I can say about it
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I havent played a MK since the 90s so big guy with hammer and harpy girl were kinda who the gently caress are these people but hopefully a sequel can do justice for Baraka and Johnny
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Apr 23, 2021 18:32
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G-III posted:
Fun fact about this: This fight wasn't in the original script and was added after the original cut got a very positive test screening result with some complaints about not enough fights. Robin Shou was the exclusive fight choreographer for it, as well as the Reptile fight. Which is also why they're a lot better than the other fights in the movie.
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Apr 23, 2021 18:38
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biracial bear for uncut posted:That was the Amulet of Shinnok, basically the God of the Netherealm. Quan Chi wants it to supposedly free Shinnok but may or may not just want the power within it for himself. Similarly, one of the paintings is a reference to the plot of MK Armageddon, which I would watch the hell out of.
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Archer666 posted:Fun fact about this: This fight wasn't in the original script and was added after the original cut got a very positive test screening result with some complaints about not enough fights. Robin Shou was the exclusive fight choreographer for it, as well as the Reptile fight. Which is also why they're a lot better than the other fights in the movie. I've heard this fun fact a million times and I still can't believe it. Apparently the Scorpion/Johnny Cage fight originally just ended with the shadow kick? Unbelievably lame.
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Apr 23, 2021 19:06
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Kano is great. He gets some wonderful lines
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Apr 23, 2021 19:20
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I did wake up for ”Kano wins!” which was pretty funny.
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Apr 23, 2021 19:22
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The middle of the movie really loving dragged. And the dialogue was painfully bad. But I still had a really good time. Kano getting knocked down by sweep kick after sweep kick was a really funny reference to the game. Literal laugh out loud moment. A+++. Original Scorpion showing up at the end was a real "gently caress yes" moment, and that whole final fight was great. I'm hoping this movie does well enough that we A) get a sequel and B) they cast someone of note as Johnny Cage. I don't really need a bunch of celebrities in my movies, but it felt weird here being like, "Oh, uh, I guess Shang Tsung was played by that dude from The Dark Knight" and that being literally the only person I recognized. Minor complaint, but since Cage is a movie star, it would be cool to cast literally anyone of note in that role. And yeah, Kano was great. Which I wasn't expecting. Anyway, as someone said above, it's not good, but it is great.
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Apr 23, 2021 19:23
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Incredibly missed opportunity to not have Shang Tsing morph into Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa at some point
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thrawn527 posted:
Joe Taslim and Hiroyuki Sanada are both cool, you should check some stuff they've been in.
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LesterGroans posted:Joe Taslim and Hiroyuki Sanada are both cool, you should check some stuff they've been in. Oh right, I've seen Hiroyuki Sanada in Westworld and The Wolverine, I guess. Joe Taslim, however, seems to have a really small IMDB page. I've seen F&F6, but I couldn't tell you who he was in that (those movies run together and have massive casts), and, while I know I should have at this point, and this is on me, I still haven't gotten around to seeing the Raid movies, so I haven't seen The Raid: Redemption that he's in.
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I was lukewarm on it, overall. Some parts I enjoyed, others not so much. OC Cole Young was a total waste and a nothing character. When Lui Kang was talking about his life story he was describing a better movie. The fights suffer from the way Hollywood generally shoots fighting scenes, with a lot of cuts to different angles. They never just lock the camera down and let the fighters get a few moves in and cutting in for effect during a hit, like you would see in a Jackie Chan film or other wuxia film. You have some incredibly talented martial artists and some pretty neat choreography but they make it really hard to parse out with all the stupid cuts. Movie also felt like it had like 45 minutes cut from it.
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Apr 23, 2021 19:40
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thrawn527 posted:Oh right, I've seen Hiroyuki Sanada in Westworld and The Wolverine, I guess. Yeah, he hasn't been in much but he's great in The Raid and The Night Comes for Us. He's also in thy show Warrior, which I haven't seen but I've heard good things.
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Warrior is dope. I put on The Night Comes for Us immediately after MK. I liked MK, felt it captured the video game's pretty well, but could use less CG, and the middle fights could have been punched up a bit more. I do think you get a decent look at most the characters fighting styles, but I agree the editing of the fights doesn't help. I would watch more movies following this story.
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Apr 23, 2021 20:22
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I will buy MK 11 when they add inevitably add Cole just to beat his rear end
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Apr 23, 2021 20:30
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The editing is doubly weird considering it's so unnecessary. Usually they'd do this kind of thing if they have to work around an actor who's not that good at the choreography, as a way to paper over awkward or slow moves. But here they made a point of hiring people who are really good at fight choreography in the first place, so they absolutely could have just let the shots stay steady and long to show off their skills.
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hiddenriverninja posted:I will buy MK 11 when they add inevitably add Cole just to beat his rear end Only if the same Kombat Pack includes Art Lean from the first MK movie.
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Gavok posted:Only if the same Kombat Pack includes Art Lean from the first MK movie. Oh, Art. You were too good for this world.
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