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Checked the screencaps on DVDBeaver and the film's color palette just looks more natural now. As for the cropping, the frames are tighter and maybe they could have a bit more breathing room and head room so there aren't haircuts but I have no idea if that was the original framing from the original theatrical presentation.
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Apr 23, 2021 17:38
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When will Criterion stand up to these tyrannical film directors?!
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Apr 23, 2021 17:41
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It’s not that big of a difference, I can live with it. Like it’s a noticeable change, but it’s not something that dramatically changes the movie. Wong Kar Wai this ain’t.
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Apr 23, 2021 17:55
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what i’m wondering is why they didn’t try and bring the source book back into print
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Apr 23, 2021 17:57
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"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians,” he said. “[And] if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society."Cacator posted:When will Criterion stand up to these tyrannical film directors?! More like, when will Congress?
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Apr 23, 2021 18:55
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Yeah I'm not sure if the new one looks better but surely we're not taking the original Universal transfer as gospel, right?
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Apr 23, 2021 19:16
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DetoxP posted:Yeah I'm not sure if the new one looks better but surely we're not taking the original Universal transfer as gospel, right? People still talk about Bluray color timings not being right based off VHS tapes so
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Apr 23, 2021 19:24
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The Criterion disc picture looks like they took a 1.66:1 film and stretched it to 1.85:1 Something is definitely off there. Reminds me of this BD that took a 1.66 ratio film and stretched it to fit 16:9 http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/daughters.htm
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Apr 23, 2021 21:23
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Yeah, Fast Times looks fine to me - the original picture makes everyone look sunburned or something. The cropping is minor - not like it went from 1.85:1 to 16:9 or something.
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Apr 23, 2021 21:37
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I think people are on edge after the Wong fiasco. Criterion transfers have always varied, sometimes wildly, when left to the whims of the original dp/director. I remember being miffed about how desaturated Days of Heaven looked compared to older transfers. It's way less warm for a movie renowned for its golden hues, so much so that Criterion put an article out at release that was basically like "Yeah, we know. Blame Terry."
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Apr 23, 2021 21:46
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Does anyone know who owns the rights to Hard Boiled and/or why there isn't a bluray criterion of that. I need Chow Yun-Fat shooting dudes in slow motion in the best possible quality.
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Apr 23, 2021 21:53
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The cropping isn't that bad, and I think people forget that cropping is pretty common in films. It's not like there's any significant things being cut off. Oh no, I can't see as much of the pizza boxes as I could before! Also, the criterion looks better composed at the top compare to the universal, where it's not as tight. In terms of colors, the criterion looks a little too desaturated and cold, but the universal looks a little too hot. Neither is perfect. Plus, I think these things stand out when you look at them back to back. If you didn't do the comparison, would it have bother you? People gotta complain I guess.
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Apr 23, 2021 21:57
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LionYeti posted:Does anyone know who owns the rights to Hard Boiled and/or why there isn't a bluray criterion of that. I need Chow Yun-Fat shooting dudes in slow motion in the best possible quality. The last release was from Dragon Dynasty. With everything that happened with Weinstein I don’t know if Dragon Dynasty got scooped with Miramax for Paramount or not.
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Apr 23, 2021 22:05
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Is it safe to say that we can at least trust that Criterion won't ever go rogue and do something crazy with a transfer of their own volition? Or has that happened before?
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Apr 23, 2021 22:11
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Cemetry Gator posted:If you didn't do the comparison, would it have bother you? Slight cropping could go unnoticed but I hate when they stretch the picture so that it makes things look wider. Everyone and everything looks slightly too wide. Now I'm guessing the vast majority don't even notice it unless it's the extreme 1.33 to 1.78 but I am cursed to.
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Apr 23, 2021 22:14
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The backseat colorists are on the prowl
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Origami Dali posted:I think people are on edge after the Wong fiasco. Criterion transfers have always varied, sometimes wildly, when left to the whims of the original dp/director. I remember being miffed about how desaturated Days of Heaven looked compared to older transfers. It's way less warm for a movie renowned for its golden hues, so much so that Criterion put an article out at release that was basically like "Yeah, we know. Blame Terry." Oversaturation in that film would ruin the complexity and variance of color they originally worked so hard to capture with natural light. The reason it's considered so beautiful is because you can see so many different yellows and pinks and blues in a single frame of sunset, not that the shots in the film pop off the screen with intense saturation. LionYeti posted:Does anyone know who owns the rights to Hard Boiled and/or why there isn't a bluray criterion of that. I need Chow Yun-Fat shooting dudes in slow motion in the best possible quality. I've been waiting for this myself, and I'm sincerely hoping that the Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan releases portend an eventual rerelease of HB.
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Spatulater bro! posted:Is it safe to say that we can at least trust that Criterion won't ever go rogue and do something crazy with a transfer of their own volition? Or has that happened before? I mean, maybe the few non anamorphic discs left in the collection without upgrades? Those should really be replaced where possible.
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Cloks posted:I mean, maybe the few non anamorphic discs left in the collection without upgrades? Those should really be replaced where possible. And I wouldn't really call a 1998-era non-anamorphic transfer all that crazy, as it was standard practice at the time.
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Apr 23, 2021 23:33
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Zogo posted:Slight cropping could go unnoticed but I hate when they stretch the picture so that it makes things look wider. Everyone and everything looks slightly too wide. I honestly don't see why geometric distortion. Is there something I'm missing? Because everything is a little bigger, it might be harder to tell.
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Apr 23, 2021 23:36
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Cemetry Gator posted:I honestly don't see why geometric distortion. Is there something I'm missing? Because everything is a little bigger, it might be harder to tell. Yeah, everything looks slightly elongated. Certain scenes it's not very noticeable but at certain points the faces and objects look unnaturally shaped. Normal: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/dvd_reviews53/daughters_of_darkness_/daughters_of_darkness_BU2DVD_cap04.jpg Slightly stretched: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/14/daughters_of_darkness_4K_UHD_/1080_04_daughters_darkness_4k_blu-ray.jpg Lots of stuff here looks abnormal. But I'm guessing some won't notice the differences.
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Apr 24, 2021 00:01
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I'll take the 4K remaster supervised by the director over the old overprocessed HD master from 15-20 years ago.
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Criterion Channel subscribers, make sure you catch Spike Lee's Bamboozled before it leaves the service this month. Starts out as a satire of black representation in media, but it evolves into something much, much darker, almost a horror film.
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pospysyl posted:Criterion Channel subscribers, make sure you catch Spike Lee's Bamboozled before it leaves the service this month. Starts out as a satire of black representation in media, but it evolves into something much, much darker, almost a horror film. also, if you're an insane collector in the precise way i am, spike lee sells signed copies of it from his website
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LionYeti posted:Does anyone know who owns the rights to Hard Boiled and/or why there isn't a bluray criterion of that. I need Chow Yun-Fat shooting dudes in slow motion in the best possible quality. Well if you want it on Blu Ray, you can always pick up a PS3 copy of John Woo's Stranglehold
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Apr 28, 2021 01:33
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Ooh sweet: A Touch of Zen and The Fate of Lee Khan on the channel in May
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Apr 28, 2021 21:08
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So I’m happy the Satyajit Ray collection is up on the site. I’ve already seen the Apu trilogy, The Big City, Charulata, and The Music Room. Loved them all. Where do I go from here?
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May 3, 2021 20:15
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they're doing 30% off all May for some reason.
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May 3, 2021 20:22
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Gripweed posted:they're doing 30% off all May for some reason. Probably trying to stay afloat
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VoodooXT posted:Probably trying to stay afloat Why would they be in trouble? They do streaming and home video releases, they very rarely do new releases so the slow down in movie production wouldn't effect them. Criterion was very well positioned to weather Covid.
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May 3, 2021 20:31
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Gripweed posted:they're doing 30% off all May for some reason. they did it last year and I'm guessing 30% off for a month is probably a good way to get people to talk themselves into buying a few things i know it's going to work on me
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After seeing Chungking Express last week and it was the new cut, I think I might grab Memories of Murder. I know it’s similarly controversial with its color retouching, but I’ve never seen it and I’ve heard it’s a hell of a movie. Thoughts?
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VoodooXT posted:Probably trying to stay afloat goddamn the only thing consistent in my nearly 20 years on this dead gay forum is goons not understanding if companies or people are doing well financially
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Boywhiz88 posted:After seeing Chungking Express last week and it was the new cut, I think I might grab Memories of Murder. I know it’s similarly controversial with its color retouching, but I’ve never seen it and I’ve heard it’s a hell of a movie. Do it.
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Franchescanado posted:Do it. I did it. RE: Chungking, I think the use of Dreams is supposed to be one of the controversial changes. Like in a previously silent scene. But I kinda liked it. I thought it was a juxtaposition of California Dreamin’. A romantic dream, vs a dream of somewhere else. I had no idea what the movie was going in to the theater, so the shift from part 1 to part 2 threw me off a bit. But overall, great! Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at 22:30 on May 3, 2021 |
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Kart Barfunkel posted:So I’m happy the Satyajit Ray collection is up on the site. I’ve already seen the Apu trilogy, The Big City, Charulata, and The Music Room. Loved them all. Where do I go from here? I haven't seen them yet but I know these two are well-regarded: The Hero (1966) The Stranger (1991)
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John Romero posted:goddamn the only thing consistent in my nearly 20 years on this dead gay forum is goons not understanding if companies or people are doing well financially Yep Criterion's doing just fine.
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I bought Yi Yi just a few weeks too soon, drat, I coulda justified getting the blu-ray. I say that before I no doubt end up getting an Eclipse set I've been eyeing.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:So I’m happy the Satyajit Ray collection is up on the site. I’ve already seen the Apu trilogy, The Big City, Charulata, and The Music Room. Loved them all. Where do I go from here? Devi The Calcutta trilogy (Jana Aranya, Pratidwandi, Company Limited) Days and Nights in the Forest Ghare-Baire Sonar Kella Sadgati The Hero The Stranger
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