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Also Harry's rich and within a year gives Fred and George enough capital to open their own shop. The Marauder's Map was a bribe and it paid off handsomely.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also y'all forgot astronomy, which from what we're told I think is another form of divination. The books had always treated the Astronomy class as straight-up Astronomy. Plot positions of objects in the sky, and one instance of discussing the physical characteristics of Europa.
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Plus Fred and George fairly openly think Harry is cooler than their brother Ron, the cop.
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Based on my extensive knowledge of numerology and my obsession with Final Fantasy Tactics it seems pretty obvious to me that Arithmancy is the most powerful type of magic. Actually I think I previously argued that Potions is probably the strongest and most versatile if you only knew one type of magic. Polyjuice, luck potion, truth serum... It might actually be whatever the type of Charms that focuses on enchanting objects is. It seems like the most powerful magic in HP comes from enchanted objects, like the Marauder's Map or the invisibility cloak. Time turners. Mirror of Erised. They're all crazy powerful and stable magic, requiring little skill from the users. I guess it's not really clear how some objects are enchanted/created. Like the Philosopher's Stone is "created" by what they call an alchemist, does he Tony Stark a rock into a new element?
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I think trying to figure out a best kind of magic isn't going to work because Rowling never actually came up with a magic system. Just a handful of individual spells. What's the difference between a hex and a jinx and a curse? hosed if I know.
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Zesty posted:The books had always treated the Astronomy class as straight-up Astronomy. Plot positions of objects in the sky, and one instance of discussing the physical characteristics of Europa. Was Arithmancy just regular-rear end high school math the whole time That would've been a good background gag in the series. After the second year they've learned 90% all the actual magic there is to know, and years 3-7 are essentially just Real School With "Magic" Names
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josh04 posted:Plus Fred and George fairly openly think Harry is cooler than their brother Ron, the cop. Isn't harry a cop?
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CainFortea posted:Isn't harry a cop? JethroMcB posted:They all grew up to be cops. Even the adult characters.
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I'd read about Cop Hagrid.... wait that'd just pretty much be fantastic beasts....
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Tenebrais posted:I think trying to figure out a best kind of magic isn't going to work because Rowling never actually came up with a magic system. Just a handful of individual spells. What's the difference between a hex and a jinx and a curse? hosed if I know.
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reignofevil posted:I'd read about Cop Hagrid.... wait that'd just pretty much be fantastic beasts.... hagrid would be a cop on the side of the animals. some people refer to them as "ecoterrorists"
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Jazerus posted:hagrid would be a cop The Earth Belongs to the Blast-Ended Skrewt.
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Shwoo posted:All I know is, the existence of counter-jinxes is debatable. Because the author of the Defence Against the Dark Arts book in their fifth year was in favour of jinx control, or something. I think they strongly promote abstinence from jinxes.
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CainFortea posted:Isn't harry a cop? They all become cops in the end but Ron (like Percy) is a school prefect (at heart). Fred and George become super establishment the second they leave school though.
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Yeah, they become a military supplier right out of high school.
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I guess my idea of astronomy-as-divination comes from the centaurs, but they never actually claimed to be doing any astronomy. Also by "the centaurs" I mainly mean Firenze so I'm probably doing a wizard racism because his people mostly seemed to hate him and wouldn't want that collaborationist representing their entire culture.Ror posted:Based on my extensive knowledge of numerology and my obsession with Final Fantasy Tactics it seems pretty obvious to me that Arithmancy is the most powerful type of magic. When Griphook is going off about how wizards won't let goblins have wands, Ron shoots back that the goblins won't teach wizards how to forge cool poo poo. Maybe it's a lost art. Now what actually makes Gryffindor's sword cooler than a regular sword I forget. In the movie it's cool because they made the sword prop sized for little kid Daniel Radcliffe and went ahead with the exact same prop design for big buff Neville six movies later, which is extremely funny.
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You can tell Harry Potter lives in a failed state cause 90% of the jobs are fully armed police with 0 oversight. Like America but the black people get recast between movies.
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Also wait wait wait hold up a minute why did Voldemort need to kill Snape? He could have just blasted him with a silly jinx and become (hypothetical) owner of the good wand Like Snape was one of the most powerful fighters in the whole green crew. You're really just going to casually put down the SSJ2 Vegeta of your team? Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also wait wait wait hold up a minute why did Voldemort need to kill Snape? He could have just blasted him with a silly jinx and become (hypothetical) owner of the good wand Voldemort sees killing as the solution to all his problems is actual text I think.
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josh04 posted:They all become cops in the end but Ron (like Percy) is a school prefect (at heart). Fred and George become super establishment the second they leave school though. Ron’s like the worst prefect ever tho, not even just abusing his power but forgetting he even has any a lot of the time until Hermione is like “Ron! We need to lead the first years” while he’s stuffing his pockets with dessert or whatever. Also Ron gets made prefect since he needs a boost to his self esteem because he’s basically the definitive side kick who has zero skills or strengths the hero doesn’t have. Dumbledore says it’s cause Harry had too much on his plate but there’s still no reason for it to go to Ron instead of like, Dean Thomas.
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reignofevil posted:Voldemort was probably the biggest moron in Harry Potter. Like I said, dude should’ve just yeeted baby Harry out of the window or wingardium leviosa’d a bunch of knives over the baby’s face.
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"Instead of murdering this baby who is fated to kill me... I shall raise it as my own! For evil!"
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reignofevil posted:"Instead of murdering this baby who is fated to kill me... I shall raise it as my own! For evil!" Neville emerges from the shadows and murmurs "avada... "
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Guy A. Person posted:Ron’s like the worst prefect ever tho, not even just abusing his power but forgetting he even has any a lot of the time until Hermione is like “Ron! We need to lead the first years” while he’s stuffing his pockets with dessert or whatever. It's basically so he can remember he has authority when Harry needs it because he sure as gently caress won't otherwise
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Also wait wait wait hold up a minute why did Voldemort need to kill Snape? He could have just blasted him with a silly jinx and become (hypothetical) owner of the good wand Voldemort, much like Harry, doesn't bother with learning poo poo unless it's directly relevant to his current problems. Despite having had Ollivander kidnapped, he didn't bother to get all the finer points of Wand Lore from him, basically just tortured him for information about whether the Elder Wand was real or not and if he had any leads on it. Working based off all the old legends where the new owner of the Elder Wand only acquired it by murdering its previous owner, he was under the false impression that Snape needed to die to bring it to full power.
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Voldemort is a big dumb petty egotistical fascist who gives no shits about his underlings, like all fascists. He probably was going to get rid of Snape no matter how things went in the end because he wasn't going to keep around anyone who could be a treat to his power and who wasn't a sniveling bootlicker
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Guy A. Person posted:Ron’s like the worst prefect ever tho, not even just abusing his power but forgetting he even has any a lot of the time until Hermione is like “Ron! We need to lead the first years” while he’s stuffing his pockets with dessert or whatever. loving  at Harry silently fuming that Ron got the position of prefect, when he's supposed to be Dumbledore's golden boy. What an entitled little poo poo.Zesty posted:Yeah, they become a military supplier right out of high school. It was a really boneheaded move to sell magic military goods to the Ministry considering how every kid had been taught how Voldemort's lackeys easily infiltrated them way back when. I bet Voldemort was thrilled when he saw the Ministry's stash of spell-repelling equipment, ipecac, tear gas and instant-darkness powders.
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Feldegast42 posted:Voldemort is a big dumb petty egotistical fascist who gives no shits about his underlings, like all fascists. He probably was going to get rid of Snape no matter how things went in the end because he wasn't going to keep around anyone who could be a treat to his power and who wasn't a sniveling bootlicker JK was very good at accidentally writing realistic fascists in her attempt to write cartoon nazis.
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amigolupus posted:loving The conversation he has with himself in his head is honestly pretty well done and shows him to be kind of a shithead who still gets disgusted by himself and ultimately chooses friendship and congratulates Ron then mostly forgets about it (until Dumbledore kind of stupidly is like, "sorry you are my special boy I should have chosen you") There is seriously a running theme with Harry kind of being a lovely friend to Ron specifically through obliviousness as well as not understanding that people can still have problems that are more subtle than "Wizard Hitler orphaned and now wants to personally murder me". It kind of happens repeatedly and I think it's not really until the locket horcrux death scene in book 7 that Harry fully realizes "oh being in my shadow is loving Ron up psychologically" and says something actually really insightful and heartfelt to Ron about it.
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Hey, Ron? Yeah, Harry? Lets be cops together
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:JK was very good at accidentally writing realistic fascists in her attempt to write cartoon nazis. There's barely a difference except the realistic fascists actually kill people and destroy everything in sight because no one can be bothered taking them seriously until it's too late.
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Guy A. Person posted:The conversation he has with himself in his head is honestly pretty well done and shows him to be kind of a shithead who still gets disgusted by himself and ultimately chooses friendship and congratulates Ron then mostly forgets about it (until Dumbledore kind of stupidly is like, "sorry you are my special boy I should have chosen you") Ron's whole running character struggle, basically from the moment he's introduced until the locket scene, is his inferiority complex. He considers himself the least of his brothers in terms of ability or accomplishment, as well as the least of his own circle of friends: almost universally outshined by Harry and Hermione. It's subtle in the earlier books but from about OotP onward it a huge stumbling block for him, like how he assumes he's garbage at Quiddich because he's not instantly flawless at it like Harry is, or how he just assumes that if Hermione was going to be into one of him or Harry it would obviously be Harry (ironically something Jo herself now agrees with lol).
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Barudak posted:Hey, Ron? disco elysium as a stealth hp sequel
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Do not drag Kim Kitsuragi's name through the mud by associating him with Harry Potter.
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Sydin posted:Ron's whole running character struggle, basically from the moment he's introduced until the locket scene, is his inferiority complex. He considers himself the least of his brothers in terms of ability or accomplishment, as well as the least of his own circle of friends: almost universally outshined by Harry and Hermione. It's subtle in the earlier books but from about OotP onward it a huge stumbling block for him, like how he assumes he's garbage at Quiddich because he's not instantly flawless at it like Harry is, or how he just assumes that if Hermione was going to be into one of him or Harry it would obviously be Harry (ironically something Jo herself now agrees with lol). Yea definitely. Dumbledore basically offhand mentions it in book one, it’s even made clear later on that the Weasleys were low key trying for a girl since they stopped immediately after Ginny, and that Ron is aware of this. Also Hermione’s decision to go for the funny tall guy with the great family instead of the extremely moody guy is probably the smartest thing she does in the series (I also like the implication that they bond a lot off screen while Harry is doing bonus adventures or in the hospital wing for weeks out of each year)
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Sydin posted:Do not drag Kim Kitsuragi's name through the mud by associating him with Harry Potter. That's Lieutenant-Commander Harry James Peverell to you e: cannot stop lmfaoing that Harry's famous fortune is because his great-grandad invented Axe: Messy Look but wizard version e2: are there wizard guards with wizard bear hats at wizard Buckingham Palace? Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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