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the thread about moot today really has peeps unironically postin about the virtues of /pol/, dont they
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Apr 23, 2021 22:46
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I can't believe anyone hired him to begin with, what a liability. Both from the PR and all the swirlies he must get.
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Apr 23, 2021 22:57
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someone gave the weird comic guy a job?
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Apr 23, 2021 23:17
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who could have predicted that hn would have a lot of ideological overlap with /pol/
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Apr 23, 2021 23:34
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who could have predicted that hn would have a lot of userbase overlap with /pol/
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Apr 23, 2021 23:46
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Pile Of Garbage posted:someone gave the weird comic guy a job? Google did and he could not even last there.
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Apr 24, 2021 01:19
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anovikov 2 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: The luxury fashion industry is roaring back everyw... There's absolutely no carbon footprint in luxury spending, because luxury goods are by definition very high-markup. Every buck spent on a Birkin handbag saves that amount from being spent on a gas-guzzling SUV, or more realistically, considering the target group, from being spent on a couple of private jet flights that would emit tens of tons of CO2. If anything, luxury spending must be promoted to reduce carbon intensity of national economies.
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Apr 24, 2021 09:25
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buying apple Hermes products is praxis
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Apr 24, 2021 11:16
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Xik posted:anovikov 2 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: The luxury fashion industry is roaring back everyw... https://i.imgur.com/YnSMmzS.mp4
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Xik posted:anovikov 2 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: The luxury fashion industry is roaring back everyw... lol people who are so convinced they are the smartest boy in the room that they twist themselves into these absurd positions rock.
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Apr 24, 2021 20:22
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The galaxy brain "trickle down isn't real but that means it's even better that income inequality exists and rich people waste all their money on conspicuous consumption because of climate change  " position.
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Apr 24, 2021 23:37
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kian 1 hour ago [–] "... upskilling initiatives ... put the onus on workers to improve themselves in order to improve their job-market prospects and the American economy in general. In so doing, they make individual what is clearly a governmental and societal problem... All jobs could be good jobs. But only policy makers and business leaders have the skills to make that happen, not workers." We used to have a term for this - 'the soft bigotry of low expectations.' When did it become so progressive for well-educated white Americans, who clearly would never a day in their life follow their own advice, having 'upskilled' themselves to the max in the Ivy League, to encourage the removal and abdication of all forms of personal power and growth from people of color? While I'm sure some people must truly believe this, I can't help but get a bootleggers and baptists vibe from the situation. It almost feels like a deep suppression of a fear of competition from some, and is starting to come off as a desperate attempt to protect themselves and their status by tricking others into staying 'in their place'. The only way we will will sustainably succeed in raising wages for 'low-skilled' positions is through some combination of decreasing their fungibility (celebrity dish-washers?), decrease the competition for them, or increase alternative prospects through education. If everyone can be doctors, scientists, engineers, and titans of industry, the dish-washer will either be a valued, appreciated, and well-paid position - or we'll have figured out how to do it by machine.
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Apr 25, 2021 19:58
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The YouTube ad conspiracy genius has logged on. briefcomment 5 hours ago [–] Youtube is probably varying the rate of ads displayed for each user based on some factors. I was watching an hour long interview and was shocked that I was served a 30 second ad every 3-4 minutes. I scanned the comments for outrage, but there were no negative comments. I think YT may have increased my ad rate because I was using a VPN. I think they will use ads as a form of tax, to discourage certain behavior, and even certain content. I think I notice this more on libertarian leaning videos (although I definitely haven't done any rigorous analysis re that). Can't wait for the day everything is decentraly hosted, and we access it through whatever portal we want. -- briefcomment 4 hours ago [–] I watched a Jordan Peterson video on Dr. Oz's official channel, and I got an ad every 3 - 4 minutes. What do you make of that evidence (given I'm not lying)? None of the comments acknowledged it.
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Apr 28, 2021 07:51
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Also "my favorite podcasters can't get paid if they say the gamer word  "throwaway3699 6 hours ago [–] Yep. Almost every creator I watch is either demonetized or got banned. I'm sick of watching podcasts or gaming videos where people are saying creepy codewords to get around the censorship algorithm.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:02
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google is almost certainly doing weird/creepy stuff with targeted ads and tracking but they can't even reliably serve me youtube ads in a language i understand, that are relevant to my gender, or that aren't for hundreds of thousands of dollars of niche industrial machinery so trying to read any actual intent behind the digital flailing of the algorithm seems like a fool's game
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Apr 28, 2021 08:50
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Apr 28, 2021 09:14
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TIL most people get ads on youtube. I thought the market penetration of ad blockers was higher I guess?
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Apr 28, 2021 11:49
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leper khan posted:TIL most people get ads on youtube. I thought the market penetration of ad blockers was higher I guess? It's more rare for people to have adblockers on mobile. But I think having adblockers is surprisingly rare outside of the usual nerd crowd.
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Apr 28, 2021 11:57
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it can't be a very big problem for google, or they could obviously be more obnoxious about preventing it. e.g. actually set up the backend to not send you further video data in the periods you are expected to be viewing an ad.
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Apr 28, 2021 12:16
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A surprising number of people on hn don't use adblockers, apparently they think it's stealing to watch ad-funded content without watching the ads.
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Apr 28, 2021 13:37
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it can't be a very big problem for google, or they could obviously be more obnoxious about preventing it. e.g. actually set up the backend to not send you further video data in the periods you are expected to be viewing an ad. i think twitch already does that, if you manage to block their ads (which ublock has difficulty doing) the stream just cuts out until the ad would have ended the obvious next step would be to interleave the ads into the same video feed as the actual stream so the client can't do anything about them
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Apr 28, 2021 13:39
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iirc Google uses the ad blocker adoption rate as a proxy metric for how much they can turn the pain knob on ads before it starts to drive people off and cannibalize revenue.
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Apr 28, 2021 13:42
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mrmcd posted:iirc Google uses the ad blocker adoption rate as a proxy metric for how much they can turn the pain knob on ads before it starts to drive people off and cannibalize revenue.
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Apr 28, 2021 13:46
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if you serve from the same domain and just insert your ad video in the middle of the streaming playlist is it even possible to block ads? Seems like they could force us to watch ads if they wanted to
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Apr 28, 2021 15:28
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power botton posted:if you serve from the same domain and just insert your ad video in the middle of the streaming playlist is it even possible to block ads?
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Apr 28, 2021 15:32
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mystes posted:They could presumably make the client check whether ads are being played to prevent a normal adblocker from working but that won't necessary prevent people from doing other stuff to block ads. They would probably have to get into a cat and mouse game to shut down stuff like youtube-dl, too. If they forced ads it would be the first time a real opening would appear for a competitor. I know I would watch a lot less YT if there were ads. So it's probably an acceptable loss to keep users happy.
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The Basecamp thread is a real goldmine. caffeine 1 day ago [–] Your latter example is also expressly undesirable in the workplace. You are hired to build product, not obsess over the diversity of the employee base, unless you are hired in a DEI role specifically. Asking the questions you are asking is political. Discussing people’s membership in groups like cis or Native American or whatever else IS an unwanted political act. Those group identities are fundamentally political tools. Treating people as anything other than individuals is a political act. Discrimination happens against an individual. If you see discrimination happen against an individual, and you privately and discretely address it with the appropriate people (could be with those directly involved, with superiors, with HR, whatever seems appropriate in that situation), that is not a political act, it is a moral act of taking care of a coworker. rayiner 1 day ago [–] > It’s not the only one, I suppose. But you’re painting it as if it’s not the primary one. It is far and away a position held by those who also profess conservative political values. I understand the hair you’re trying to split, but I don’t feel it’s worth splitting. Maybe in Afghanistan, but not in the US. The majority of Republicans support gay marriage. Out of those that don’t, few would find “the existence” of a gay person “offensive” even if they reject extending state sanction to gay marriage. For a long time many Americans opposed re-marriage for divorced people. That doesn’t mean they found the existence of divorced people offensive. I don’t see the point in treating everything short of complete acceptance as equivalent to opposing someone’s “existence.” Some people in America don’t want, as a matter of government policy, immigrants like me coming to the US from Muslim countries. They’re not opposed to “my existence”—invariably they’ll leave me alone if I leave them alone.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:22
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Pulcinella posted:caffeine 1 day ago [–] staring in the mirror, shaking, repeating: i am an atom. i am an atom. i am apolitical matter. i am noble and elemental. i am inert and beautiful, not like those dirty loving
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Apr 28, 2021 17:32
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repiv posted:i think twitch already does that, if you manage to block their ads (which ublock has difficulty doing) the stream just cuts out until the ad would have ended that's vastly better than having the ad, though. 30 seconds of silence is probably healthy. repiv posted:the obvious next step would be to interleave the ads into the same video feed as the actual stream so the client can't do anything about them i'm shocked that they don't do this already, tbh. fortunately we have stuff like sponsorblock to crowdsource skipping over the shills. that would work for ads too, unless they started just chopping the video randomly and sticking ads wherever, in which case i would be done with video as a form of media forever
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Apr 28, 2021 18:26
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repiv posted:i think twitch already does that, if you manage to block their ads (which ublock has difficulty doing) the stream just cuts out until the ad would have ended i've seen a lot of people claim that happens but using ublock origin i've never gotten a twitch ad and i've never had the stream cut out for an ad break and i have no idea why i'd be special
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Apr 28, 2021 20:02
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they're probably turning a big dial taht says "anti-adblock" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right for a while they went nuclear on adblock and broke new workarounds on a daily basis but the userbase got so mad they backed off somewhat https://twitter.com/Lowco2525/status/1323266391861055490
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Apr 28, 2021 20:28
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power botton posted:if you serve from the same domain and just insert your ad video in the middle of the streaming playlist is it even possible to block ads? there's the catch maybe google could do it differently because they're google but generally it's not determined where ads are coming from until after the page has loaded and your demographic info has been judged by algorithms and as a publisher "just put this script tag on your page" is a lot simpler than "integrate this wobbly tower of ever-changing third-party ad code into your backend"
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Apr 29, 2021 02:56
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fisting by many posted:there's the catch I'd like to tell you why that doesn't matter for youtube, but first a message for today's sponsor, {SPONSOR}. I've been using {SPONSOR} for years helping me out with {PRODUCT_DOMAIN}. They've really made it easier for me to {PRODUCT_DESCRIPTION} faster and on my own terms. Check out {SPONSOR} with offer code LEPER. Google owns youtube and therefore can manage that integration themselves for youtube. They probably won't because it would require some amount of work to splice the videos together.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:49
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also custom ads in each video kills the point of caching videos in content delivery networks probably also required to reencode things a million times more
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Apr 29, 2021 07:22
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Penisface posted:probably also required to reencode things a million times more That's the dream. Serve unblockable ads while destroying the environment.
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Apr 29, 2021 07:24
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it's available from various vendors in the ad serving ecosystem (look for "server-side ad insertion"). but yeah, interacts badly with caching and makes personalization/tracking a pain.
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Apr 29, 2021 07:29
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Penisface posted:also custom ads in each video kills the point of caching videos in content delivery networks Modern streaming is a lot smarter than “here’s an MP4”. HLS and DASH are segmented. You cache the segments and dynamically generate the manifest either with EXT-X-DISCONTINUITY or by dynamically assembling segment lists (which you can cache by cohort or whatever to optimize) and you go get lunch. As epitaph says it does make personalization somewhat more complex—you have to generate cohorts and targeting logic up front—but it’s not a difficult thing to do. tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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Apr 29, 2021 15:18
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dkarras 4 minutes ago [–] Rich is a slur these days. reply
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tracecomplete posted:Modern streaming is a lot smarter than “here’s an MP4”. HLS and DASH are segmented. You cache the segments and dynamically generate the manifest either with EXT-X-DISCONTINUITY or by dynamically assembling segment lists (which you can cache by cohort or whatever to optimize) and you go get lunch. but in this case wouldn't it be trivial for me to figure out which segments are ads by streaming one video 2-3 times in parallel and ditching the segments that do not match (i.e. the parts of the video stream that are dynamic and probably ads)? i admit i know jack poo poo about this but i still feel like it's not an easy thing to do technically, otherwise twitch et al would have already done it ah well another snag in the plan is that you can not really click an ad served inside a video easily, so this messes with engagement probably
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