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quantumfoam posted:Charles Platt came out as 110% racist and hateful that Octavia Butler won a 1995 MacArthur Fellows Program grant....Platt claims Octavia Butler only won because she's black and female. I don't know who Charles Platt is but I've definitely heard of Octavia Butler, so....
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TOOT BOOT posted:I don't know who Charles Platt is but I've definitely heard of Octavia Butler, so.... wiki posted:Novels and novellas
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...have I heard of Less Than Human or have I heard of one of the other 9,999 novels with the same name? I can't tell whether the truth is that I've never heard of that guy or I've vaguely ever heard of that guy.
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tesserae posted:Has anyone here picked this one up? I liked the Ancillary series, but reviews look mixed. I listened to the audiobook of it a while back. I liked it, but it's worth knowing that it's barely related to the Ancillary books besides some brief mentions that acknowledge the Radch exists somewhere else in the universe, and one quick mention that sets Provenence after the Ancillary books (but if you haven't read/finished that trilogy, it's vague enough that it wouldn't spoil anything). Just in case you were expecting it to be more of a direct sequel. If you want a self-contained story in a new non-Radch culture with lower stakes than the Ancillary books, that's what you'll find (it's more forgery/heist/investigation sort of stuff than 'murder the space emporer'). You could argue that the plot isn't quite as compelling as Breq's storyline, but I found it entertaining enough as a one-off.
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DurianGray posted:...the plot isn't quite as compelling as Breq's storyline, but I found it entertaining enough as a one-off. This is basically my take.
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Oh yeah City of Bones, Martha Wells second novel came out in 1995 too. Sort of prefer City of Bones & the Ile-Rien stories over her Raksura stories and Murderbot. One of the fantastic things about the SFL Archives readthrough is finding all the lost in time insane things authors & SFF fandom have said. The only downside is having to wade through tons and tons and megatons of radioactively topical discussions of tv-shows & movies. For example, nobody except the people who worked on it remember VR5 or M.A.N.T.I.S. Or nobody sane cares if actors fully costumed-up to look like aliens wear gloves to hide their human hands or don't use dental prosthetics so they can speak clearly. Followup on the Xotl question about how I figured out Daniel Keys Moran was full of poo poo. DKM's 1992 status update to the world had this as the 3rd & 4th & 5th paragraphs in it. (the comments in italics are mine) ----------------------------------------- "The Last Dancer" expands the stage on which events are taking place; you'll finally learn something substantial about the Continuing Time at large, as opposed to learning only about post-Unification Earth. The book is more than twice as long as "The Long Run", which is part of why it took as long to write as it did. Also I got divorced midway through it (to marry his Bantam Books editor) ; and then my editor had a baby (the baby was his), so she couldn't edit it for about five months and then Bantam fired her, along with a whole bunch of other people . . . The upshot is that "The Last Dancer" is completed, Bantam has it and has paid for it; but the book may not see publication for nine months or a year, until Bantam has the first draft of the *next* Continuing Time novel in hand. ----------------------------------------- Everyone who has read DKM's The Last Dancer in this thread agrees it needed at least another 2+ passes of editing because it was way too long, way too self-indulgent, had too many plotlines shoehorned in, etc. The Last Dancer appearing to have been poo poo-out by Bantam Books as a sunken-cost without further editing, plus Bantam Books never publishing anything else by DKM after 1993 was a the "wait a sec" moment that made me flag those bolded items and compare what DKM said in the dedications/thanks in the ebook versions of EE/TLR/TLD. quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003WUYPTC/ Lavinia by Ursula K Le Guin - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003IEJZTC/ Recursion by Blake Crouch - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HDSHP7N/ Kings of the Wyld (The Band #1) by Nicholas Eames - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KT7YTXW/
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fritz posted:Protektor (1996) This one I remember being a kind of interesting anti-libertarian story. Bad guy is very much "you weak fools, you think society will protect you", while good guy is a cop who is "yes, I stop people like you so society doesn't have to be a constant armed struggle". So not necessarily great from a 2021 perspective, but quite against the typical strain of libertarian sf. Pity Platt turned out to be a racist, and a sexist to boot. Apparently he once got punched by Harlan Ellison so we may have a Piers Morgan-Jeremy Clarkson dynamic happening. Whoever loses, we win.
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I've started a new job which is very busy and requires me to think all the time - looking for some easy reading fantasy or scifi that's also not action heavy. I read the Cradle books and just skipped the non major fight scenes and that was a good level of easy reading. Read Becky Chambers already!
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minema posted:I've started a new job which is very busy and requires me to think all the time - looking for some easy reading fantasy or scifi that's also not action heavy. I read the Cradle books and just skipped the non major fight scenes and that was a good level of easy reading. Read Becky Chambers already! Innkeeper Chronicles by Ilona Andrews.
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Platt apparently once told Vietnam veteran David Drake that he wouldn’t write such cheesy war voyeurism if he’d ever seen war, and that is why Drake’s books have so many traitors and corrupt officials and criminals and such that are named Platt. That’s the only thing I’d ever heard about Platt before now.
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Honestly thought Charles Platt was just a poo poo-posting SFF fan, not an SFF established author. Platt being an established author makes things worse or funnier, given that David Drake thing Khizan just mentioned. So many SFF authors have posted to the SFL Archives it is hard to keep track of who is who. As part of my readthrough attempt, I try not to lookup people and experience everything in the moment. Have only broken that unofficial rule 10 times now. There was a stretch in the mid 1980's when about twenty or so SFL posters self-doxxed themselves as being SFF authors. Most of the posters who originally posted in the SFL Archives from it's beginning have vanished completely.....although poster #7 or #8 to the SFL Archives back in 1979 did reappear for the first time in 11 years (June 1995) to drop RealAudio(!) links for a documentary interview with Forest J Ackerman. Poster #7 had a complete mental breakdown back in 1984 about the movie Wargames 1983 making them actually have to do their job/informing their college university bosses what their job responsibilities were. quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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fritz posted:Garbage World (1967) A chilling dystopian novel set in a fictitious 1990's where old men use a global computer network to do racism
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minema posted:I've started a new job which is very busy and requires me to think all the time - looking for some easy reading fantasy or scifi that's also not action heavy. I read the Cradle books and just skipped the non major fight scenes and that was a good level of easy reading. Read Becky Chambers already! The Steerswoman by Rosemary Kirstein. If you enjoyed Chambers, I think this'll be right up your alley.
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quantumfoam posted:Poster #7 had a complete mental breakdown back in 1984 about the movie Wargames 1983 making them actually have to do their job/informing their college university bosses what their job responsibilities were. assuming that it was because their bosses were dumb and not because they were insane
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I actually kind of want to read this lmao Mentioned the Wargames 1983 meltdowns earlier, here's a requote while I try to find the first than last & final meltdown. What I failed to mention is that the person's email handle was @UCLA_Security. Aka their job was doing network security for a big major US university. {from SFL Archives readthrough Vol 07 -WARGAMES (1983) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/ ended up as the bridge-too-far moment/total user-meltdown topic for a SFL user that had been posting in the SFL mailing since the very beginning (September 1979). The technical inaccuracies in Wargames 1983 made this long-time SFL user snap, and angry post multiple times at length about Wargames 1983. Given that the SFL user's IRL job was/is computer security related, most of the anger/frustration appears to be coming from a unspoken "oh poo poo this movie is going to inspire a never-ending wave of hacking attempts by phone freaks/arpanet people....on all the systems I support/my friends support" (2020 sidenotes: For people not really familiar with the 1970s-80s, malicious phone phreaking and malicious computer hacking were becoming major issues in the 1980s. Prior to the malicious turn, motivation for phone-phreaking in the 1970s-80s was more for the lulz and giving a middle finger to the monolithic omnipresent Bell Telephone Company, and computer systems were isolated mainframes or very open non-networked computer systems. Google Kevin Mitnick, Kevin Poulsen, both of whom turned legit/as-legit as possible given their history. Poulsen wrote a mostly amusing non-fiction book about another convicted computer hacker titled Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground.) } which continued into 1984... { 1984 SFL Archives Vol 08 -The SFL person that melted down ultra-hard over WARGAMES 1983 (back in SFL Digest Vol 07) first post in the SFL Digest Vol 08 continued to angrily poo poo-talk Wargames 1983 then switched to a classic "hahaha I was puppet-mastering you all hahaha" defense all in that first SFL Vol 08 post. Status: Still hyper-mad about Wargames 1983, and is angrily requesting anyone that doesn't have the same views about Wargames 1983 as them to "redirect this discussion to POL-SCI, please!" (usenet). (2020 sidenote: Broke a unwritten rule I have to not-google-search doing this SFL readthrough and looked this person up IRL. Their Wargames 1983 meltdown was just the first stages of them getting contrarian, bitter and angry about the '80s and the internet not evolving how they expected/wanted. ) } They vanished from the SFL Archives for 11 yrs shortly afterwards.
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quantumfoam posted:angrily requesting anyone that doesn't have the same views about Wargames 1983 as them to "redirect this discussion to POL-SCI, please!" (usenet).
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DACK FAYDEN posted:lmao the ol' "take it to D&D" but thirty years ago this owns Thirty-SEVEN years ago. The first 2 emails about Wargames 1983, they would get much much angrier. ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 15-Jun-83 23:19:09 PDT From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM> Subject: A few more words regarding "Wargames" By the way, some misguided reviewers of "Wargames" have favorably compared the film to such classics as "Failsafe" and "Dr. Strangelove". I vigorously oppose such comparisons. Both of the latter two films *did* use "gimmicks" for dramatic effect, that much is true. In "Failsafe", for example, a sensor failure combined with another mechanical failure, radio jamming, and human error, causes the "event". In my opinion, however, "Failsafe" still presented a "reasonable" scenario which did not insult the viewer's intellect. "Dr. Strangelove" combined human error, insanity, and "The Doomsday Machine". This "machine" was indeed an unrealistic gimmick, but, and here is the point, "Dr. Strangelove" was a satire, and *clearly* a satire. It had a strong message to present, but did not attempt to convince viewers that the film's events were actually close to reality. Purity Of Essence! "Wargames" cannot be compared favorably, in any way, with either "Failsafe" or "Dr. Strangelove". Attempting to force a favorable comparison would be demeaning to both of the classic films. --Lauren-- ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 15-Jun-83 23:18:21 PDT From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM> Subject: "Wargames" In my humble opinion, the film "Wargames" is a good example of the sort of "pseudo-technical" crap that gives people unrealistically negative views of computers and the people who work with them. Without giving away too many plot details (if anybody really cares), the basic "gimmick" in the movie is stolen directly from "Colossus: The Forbin Project", with the addition of a generic computer "whiz kid". Anybody with slightly more than a passing familiarity with computers and/or the manner in which the U.S. missile systems are controlled should find the film to be totally ridiculous. Basically, the film throws together many concepts which might seem "plausible" to the average person but which in reality are just plain unrealistic. A few of these "concepts" include: 1) A Super-Computer controlling all missiles, which cannot be reasonably bypassed, and was programmed by one guy. This person is no longer around, nobody else understands the software, but it's still being used anyway. Maybe this is the case for some of our mail systems (?!?) but not for military systems! 2) Dialup lines into classified computer networks. Non-crypto data communications in general classified use. Simply untrue. 3) Door crypto-locks that look like Touch-Tone pads, and actually emit audible touch tones (which can be played back to open the door!) Gimme a break! 4) Payphones whose microphones can be easily unscrewed and which can be easily "ground-started". (Suuuuuure... This isn't 1966 you know!) This by no means completes the list. I won't even mention the typical silliness of data rates much faster than possible with the modems in use. (Oooops! I mentioned it!) I will avoid qualifying the incredibly inane ending of this film with any sort of mention at all, other than to say that it is *indeed* stupid and totally ridiculous. As you can see, what we have here are a bunch of concepts that may "seem" plausible to many people. Everybody has heard of high school students breaking into computers -- so why not a classified computer network that controls missiles? The fact that no computers are in "control" of missiles in that manner, and the fact that classified systems of that sort do not have dialup lines and make heavy use of encrypted communications, has been conveniently overlooked for the sake of dramatic effect. Likewise, people have "heard" that there are (were) "simple" ways to defeat payphones, and everyone KNOWS that pushbutton pads always emit tones, right? So security keypads have to work the same way, right? Poppycock! If films like "Wargames" didn't aspire to be carrying a deep and meaningful "message", they might be enjoyable in much the same manner as "Little Shop of Horrors". But "Wargames" is so blatant in its warping of technology for the sake of "impact" that it cannot be excused. Not only that, but interviews with some of the film's top production staff have made it clear that they "feel" they were presenting only a *slightly* exaggerated scenerio. At least one wire service writer went out interviewing NORAD officials to try find out if "Wargames" was realistic. When this writer confronted the "Wargames" staff with the NORAD discussion of non-remote-access facilities, encrypted communications, and the like, the "Wargames" people simply responded with (something to the effect of): "We all know that no computer is completely secure, so something like this could happen"; a statement which is very misleading for the case in question. "Wargames" is a transparent attempt to "cash in" on pseudo-science while promoting an anti-war message. I have no gripes (in general) with films which desire to present a meaningful message, nor do I necessarily disagree with the concept that the current nuclear missile "arrangement" between the superpowers is terribly dangerous and in need of change. However, in my opinion, it would have been possible to create a film that managed to get such a message across (perhaps by portraying some of the "real" dangers in the system, such as sensor failure combined with human error) rather than create a totally unrealistic situation (presumably because it held more "drama" and would be more easily "understood" by the vast masses without any significant explanation). "Wargames" is essentially an exploitation film, which, to quote the priest in "Harold and Maude", "... makes me want ... to vomit." --Lauren-- P.S. I've been fuming about this movie ever since a friend of mine came back from a very early screening over at the MGM lot and provided me with the first details. Now that I've gotten these complaints off my chest, I feel much better. Thanks all! --LW-- ------------------------------ Their final screed about Wargames 1983 ------------------------------ Date: Sunday, 31-Jul-83 01:25:00-PDT From: Lauren Weinstein <vortex!lauren@LBL-CSAM> Subject: "Wargames" and "GOR" (Moderator's Note: Mr. Weinstein submitted a message with two separate topics. However, due to the way the message was written, I have left the subject heading and the notes as it was in the original.) "Wargames" and "GOR"??? How the hell did these two get together? Don't panic -- they're actually completely separate topics in this one message... Well, let's hear it for "Wargames"... "the topic that wouldn't die". I'd really like to keep political-science discussion out of here, so I'll make this as brief as possible. In theory, we may have the ability to instantly stop the nuclear arms race and destroy *all* such weapons. In practice, however, a variety of forces over which we have imperfect or no controls prevent the former from occurring quickly, and will almost certainly prevent the latter from taking place at all. My "health" analogy, while imperfect (what analogy is really perfect?) is still valid. There are some aspects of health which we can take great strides toward controlling (as individuals and as groups). There are other aspects that we do not truly understand, and various environmental forces (many of which are man/woman-made) which affect our health in manners we might not even suspect and in many cases cannot effectively control as individuals. There are definite steps we can take toward preventing a nuclear war and towards reducing the number of nuclear weapons "floating" around. However, I do not consider simplistic "slogans" such as that presented by "Wargames" to be part of the solution. Yeah, I know, "Wargames" wasn't trying to give a message, "Wargames" was supposed to be entertainment, etc., etc. Whatever it was supposed to be, many people interpreted it as a "message" film. Further discussions about this on POLI-SCI, please! It was pointed out that I haven't panned the James Bond films (which I generally like, especially the earlier ones) and such recent commercial tripe as "Flashdance". Films where the motivation and relationship to reality are completely clear do not require my critical attention in the same manner as "Wargames". I trust the paid film reviewers to deal with the "easy" movies. "Wargames", however, was another matter, since it became obvious that many people in the population at large were largely *believing* that stuff! The wire service articles, interviews with NORAD officials, and similar recent events made it clear that many persons simply did not have the backround knowledge to separate the fantasy from reality in that film. Anyone who claims that "Wargames" wasn't a "message" film (several messages, in fact) must be kidding. There's nothing wrong with messages -- but when a film attempts to accomplish this through playing on people's ignorance of "the way things work", I get a bit steamed. There was none of this in the Bond flicks or in "Flashdance" for that matter -- they were/are strictly entertainment and clearly such. One final point. I have absolutely nothing against films which are purely entertainment, or even against films that primarily exist simply to make money (most of them fall into the latter catagory, one way or the other -- or so the producers hope). I've worked in "Hollywood" before, and I've consulted on both science-fiction and non-science-fiction films. I'm not ignorant of the motivations behind the people producing films today. My only real concern with "Wargames" has been the way it, perhaps even unconsciously, attempted to lay out its message via a series of fantasies that many people were not in a position to view as such. --Lauren-- ------------------------------
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quantumfoam posted:Oh yeah City of Bones, Martha Wells second novel came out in 1995 too. I liked City of Bones and Wheel of the Infinite a lot when I read them back in the 90s, and rereading them again more recently they have a sort of weirdness to them that's lacking from her more recent work, but at the same time I think I like both Murderbot and Raksura more; they're cozier. Ile-Rien didn't leave much of an impression on me; it's just kind of there.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I don't know who Charles Platt is but I've definitely heard of Octavia Butler, so.... I had a writing workshop with Charles Platt once, and he behaved just fine, but then I am not a black woman. I know besides his SF novels, he also wrote a ton of romance and softcore porn under various pseudonyms.
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" It was pointed out that I haven't panned the James Bond films (which I generally like, especially the earlier ones) and such recent commercial tripe as "Flashdance". Films where the motivation and relationship to reality are completely clear do not require my critical attention in the same manner as "Wargames". I trust the paid film reviewers to deal with the "easy" movies. "Wargames", however, was another matter, since it became obvious that many people in the population at large were largely *believing* that stuff! This part of his post is quite hilarious. How lucky this group was to have access to his powerful intellect and thoughts to shepherd them. It's ok for him to enjoy James Bond fantasy but the world must know this other film is very very wrong about networks and missiles. Also the idea of him sitting through Flashdance is hella funny and reminds me of The Full Monty where they are getting upset about how she welds.
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tiniestacorn posted:The Steerswoman by Rosemary Kirstein. If you enjoyed Chambers, I think this'll be right up your alley. Yeah I'm not a big fantasy reader but enjoyed this. Bonus points for being an older, obscure series that actually has non-Amazon ebooks available on Overdrive etc. edit - I'll add it's also the kind of series that has a neat twist so it's worth jumping in blind without reading anything about it first
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Finished up The Lost War by Justin Lee Anderson, and it was pretty good. First book I read by him was Carpet Diem, which was a comedy and it was pretty great, so I wasn't expecting much when it came to fantasy because authors who can write more than one genre well are kinda rare. Pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Lauren. She's not wrong about showbiz representation of anything cyb0r. I wonder what her opinion was on the super factual docudrama Hackers.
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http://www.factfiend.com/80s-movie-annoyed-norad/ The NORAD control room in Wargames was so cool that they had to redesign the actual NORAD to bring it up to speed. I can't trust anyone who doesn't like that movie. Article posted:More specifically during tours of the Cheyenne Mountain facility in the 80’s, guests and dignitaries upon seeing the actual command centre would remark that it was far less impressive than the one in WarGames usually before asking the guide if they could go see the “real” computer. SimonChris fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Collateral posted:Re: Lauren. She's not wrong about showbiz representation of anything cyb0r. I think we can just assume that the vast majority of films get their subject wrong. Numbers explanation of IRC will never not be funny tho https://youtu.be/O2rGTXHvPCQ
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Google says both of the GOR movies happened in 1987/1988, so I'm still wondering what that(where that) GOR reference was about in that final email I reposted. Like 92% of their posts in the SFL Archives pre-meltdown revolved around multimedia properties like old SFF radio shows/old and new SFF tv programs/SFF & regular movies, with the only written SFF they ever commented on was SFF themed juvenile fiction. Maybe their childhood was exceptionally free-spirited and they stumbled across copies of GOR? Pre-meltdown they were mostly chill, and had most recently been working on a SFF themed proto-Nick at Night for the regional San Francisco Bay area....although Star Trek 1 and the production drama was always a bugbear annoyance to them, because they had first hand experience of that drama as per their first post to the SFL Archives. Turns out I misremembered, lauren at UCLA-Security was poster #5 to SFL Archives Vol 01, not poster #7. Here is that first post. ------- Date: 18 Sep 1979 1147-PDT (Tuesday) From: lauren at UCLA-Security (Lauren Weinstein) Subject: Trek: The Motion Picture To: SF-LOVERS at AI As many people on the net already know, I was heavily involved with the production of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" a year ago at Astra Image Corporation [Robert Abel and Associates] (the people who WERE doing the special effects.) I suppose I could qualify as a sort of moderate Trek fan -- not a full-fledged trekkie though by any means (the show wasn't THAT good!) But the movie. Sigh. After reading the script (the first two acts anyway, the third one was being revised daily in an attempt to save the first two) and based on lots of other things that went on at meetings, etc., and current information from the new special effects group, I am afraid the movie will be simply another Star Trek episode. The story is basically a hybrid of the "Nomad" episode and "The Doomsday Machine" (remember the giant ice-cream cone that sucked in space debris?) Special effect may end up fair, but have been terribly rushed due to the failure of Astra to get anything significant done (that's a story in itself, details on request.) Astra was eventually fired by Paramount (this was after I quit in disgust -- as did a number of other people). --Lauren-- -------
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ClydeFrog posted:I think we can just assume that the vast majority of films get their subject wrong. The best explanation of IRC has always been "it's multiplayer Notepad". E: wait, what? There were Gor movies? 
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Jedit posted:E: wait, what? There were Gor movies? Two of them, and IIRC they were rated PG. PG. Gor.
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StonecutterJoe posted:Two of them, and IIRC they were rated PG.
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Jedit posted:The best explanation of IRC has always been "it's multiplayer Notepad". Oh now that I like. Very good.
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Re: Gor, from what I've read (and this may be true, or not), even sf fandom was finding John Norman skeevy at that point, with the vast majority not buying his whole "what uppity women need is a good whippin' and rapin'" stuff he'd been pushing through the 70s. To the point that Norman was saying that sf fans weren't sophisticated and cultured enough to appreciate the mature sexuality of his Gor books.
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I feel like I've heard this before somewhere, but it's pretty good. And I couldn't resist so I started reading Dead Astronauts and I can understand why someone cautioned about this book because it is truly bizarre and requires a bit of rereading at times to keep things straight. As horrifying as some aspects of this book's first ~60 pages have been, it's nice having some protagonists who come to the city with the intention of kicking some righteous rear end after all the suffering of various characters in Borne and Strange bird. I was trying to picture the weird psychic teleporting murder duck and decided to google it and found some pretty cool artwork (by this person https://twitter.com/kathleenneeley) for a special edition of the book. Thinking about ordering a print from her.    
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Mauser posted:I feel like I've heard this before somewhere, but it's pretty good. And I couldn't resist so I started reading Dead Astronauts and I can understand why someone cautioned about this book because it is truly bizarre and requires a bit of rereading at times to keep things straight. As horrifying as some aspects of this book's first ~60 pages have been, it's nice having some protagonists who come to the city with the intention of kicking some righteous rear end after all the suffering of various characters in Borne and Strange bird. I keep trying to catch her prints at release, but they're always sold out. I think you've got to watch insta for the release times and just sit by the computer to catch one in the few minutes after she puts them on the shop. It's like trying to buy a graphics card or a PS5 or something.
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Mauser posted:I feel like I've heard this before somewhere, but it's pretty good. It's by a local band so unless you're a goth in Seattle I would be somewhat surprised if you had!
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Its a good one too. It was a police procedural novel which was a fun change of pace Also Murderbot and the cops don't kill anyone, even the murderer, which helps sells the feel of Preservation as a very different place than the corporate rim most of the series has taken place in. It also showed off Murderbot's fairly vibrant social life and it making new friends while Murderbot is blissfully unaware that that's happening. Now I want more though 
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