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from what i remember, which might be straight wrong, using ivs to dope generally does it in a way that the substance will be more quickly expelled from the body, meaning you are more likely to beat a test because it's in your system for less time. there's also no real evidence to suggest that iv's are particularly more effective at rehydration than oral suspension in order to combat dehydration. (there is evidence to suggest oral rehydration is better tho) it's definitely easier on the body/person than chugging a tonne of liquid, and you can use an iv while you sleep etc. so using a method to dope that more quickly clears your system & knowing your cycles = able to take more fights at shorter notice. you'd only need to worry about random testing in that situation, but you could go wait under the octagon i guess plus when you're on the juice, you recover quicker and that helps you take the fights too. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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IVs were banned because saline functioned effectively as a masking agent. The IV wasn't used to administer drugs, but it was used to not only rehydrate quickly but effectively cover up/fool tests into not seeing the drugs in your system.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:so using a method to dope that more quickly clears your system & knowing your cycles = able to take more fights at shorter notice. I guess I never had any sense how 1) surefire it would for clearing your system and 2) how quickly it acted. I can't imagine the drugs that pulse pictograms would be much affected by it (acknowledging that no smart doper would be using that old tech)? And if it is that good, I'm surprised not more than Bigg Rigg and Weidman have been called out for suffering with it?
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wide man, bigg rigg and barao were all champions around the time it came into effect and also took big nose dives, barao's bigger than most. so they'd be at the highest level of scrutiny because they were highest profile at the time. no ones really as focused on mid card/prelim fighters so it's not going to cause as bigger hubbub when they go on a slide
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I’m not going to argue that the IV ban didn’t have a big impact in many instances, but in the case of Weidman specifically it seemed more likely to me that the awful beatdown that Rockhold put on him was the bigger culprit behind his sudden decline. I could always be misremembering though.
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Weidman seems to make extremely poor decisions as his gas tank drains and being more sapped from the weight cut certainly contributes. Which then leads directly to the spinning kick that got his brains beat out by Rockhold... Then the matchmakers threw him to the wolves with Yoel and Gegard right after that both scrambled his dehydrated brain even more. So I guess we can say it's a perfect storm of the IV ban, awful beatdowns, and the UFC's unforgiving matchmaking. The guy really could have used a soft touch fight after Rockhold.
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I think Weidman's record has always been vulnerable to a bit of oversimplification. His initial rise was flattered by wins over some big names (most of them past their best, even if that wasn't known at the time) and his losses afterwards weren't necessarily due to poor performances on his part. The Rockhold fight was close until he threw a bone-head move. He was handling Romero better than anybody, until he got knocked out badly. That bad KO and the changes to how he was having to manage his weight, plus his age and mileage and willingness to take short notice fights probably all compromised his durability and in subsequent fights he just seemed to be working with fewer and fewer physical advantages. So I think the lesson is that he probably was never as good as he seemed at his best, and also that his drop off was more gradual than it felt because of the hype he carried after blasting Anderson.
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Weidman going 2-5 in his his last seven before freakishly breaking his leg vs Hall was already reason enough to say he should retire. He has not looked good since he lost to Rockhold and it was a sudden and sharp decline.
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Southpaugh posted:Explain yourself. per MMA Junkie https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/09/president-donald-trump-praises-jorge-masvidal-kamaru-usman-during-their-attendance-at-campaign-events quote:
He's not ever really explicitly said he was an out and out Trump supporter and conceivably could have been obligated to do a publicity appearance, but it seems less likely since he wasn't scheduled to do anything around September of 2020.
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Hollandia posted:What the hell kind of purple mutagen did Dana have next to him in the postfight presser? Looks like the goo from I think the power rangers movie? 
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Digital Jedi posted:That isn't fair to Bobby Knuckles. His reasons why are valid on why he isn't taking the fight. lol yeah, I was being sarcastic. Izzy obviously doesn't want to fight Rob again and Dana doesn't seem to love the idea either unless he thinks international travel is back on when both fighters will be ready in December for a rematch in Melbourne (it won't be because the Australian government forgot to buy vaccines). edit: not saying Izzy is necessarily dodging Rob, I think he's just more interested in keeping his legacy at Middleweight and Rob is obviously the closest to his level. crepeface fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Mekchu posted:per MMA Junkie If I had the opportunity to sit and look at trump up close I'd totally take it. I kinda just had the impression that he wouldn't be a trump guy by any means.
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Southpaugh posted:If I had the opportunity to sit and look at trump up close I'd totally take it. I kinda just had the impression that he wouldn't be a trump guy by any means. honestly who could turn down the story? 
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Oh poo poo hahaha!
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Mekchu posted:per MMA Junkie Here's the most important part of that quote: quote:Usman and manager Ali Abdelaziz
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crepeface posted:lol yeah, I was being sarcastic. Izzy obviously doesn't want to fight Rob again and Dana doesn't seem to love the idea either unless he thinks international travel is back on when both fighters will be ready in December for a rematch in Melbourne (it won't be because the Australian government forgot to buy vaccines). I feel like you've gone and invented stuff that Izzy has never said or implicated at all here? Like dodging the hardest people in his division is not something anyone could lay at Izzy's feet at any point and it's part of his appeal and saying it's not dodging but he does want to keep his legacy is basically just saying he's dodging in actuality
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Izzy isn't ducking Whittaker but he knows its better to fight him quick after a 5 round fight that went the distance. That's not even shameful, he's just smart.
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there is no evidence he knows better or anything of the sort though unless i'm missing something, all that's happened is that he's been booked to fight vettori and whittaker was offered the fight and declined, which would I believe mean that Izzy was asked if he wanted to fight Whittaker and said yes
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Rather than dodging, I think he (or Dana) isn't rushing to have the Rob fight again. Izzy already beat him, and it's probably the hardest fight so even if he beats him again, it's not the biggest deal for his reputation/career. Basically a Rob rematch is the greatest risk for the least gain. This is different from champs like Holloway, Volkanovski, Whittaker, Rose. I suppose I'm just thinking out loud that Izzy seems to be a guy that's concerned with legacy, pay, etc and he makes smart calculated career moves. I don't blame him, but I want that Whittaker rematch next.
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If I have the timeline right Whittaker was asked after fighting Kelvin, Izzy gets the offer and says, "Yeah but we fight ASAP". So it puts Whittaker in the position to fight a guy that killed him with possible injuries along with having a short camp because of the pandemic. Izzy either gets Vettori, who he has already beat or a diminished Whittaker. Being prize fighting, Izzy is very smart.
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They literally offered Rob the Izzy fight and Rob declined, if it's like most title fights with established champions they ask the champion if they'll do the match first before offering it. There's no evidence at all that Izzy cares about his reputation or career to the point where it affects the fights he chooses, other than that he always takes the hardest fights he can, that's literally the story of his MMA career. Is this some nonsense based off thinking Jan was a weak LHW champion or something? Because that wasn't what Izzy said in interviews or how CKB talked about it. I don't think it's fair to imply this "smart, calculated career moves" stuff about him given his history.
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prophetic thread title continues https://twitter.com/chrisweidman/status/1387015274621280258
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There's no way I'd fight with a titanium bar in my leg. I have one in my femur and the doctor told me I should take it out after a few years because if the femur broke again it would basically shatter into a million pieces. I did not take his advice because I couldn't go through all of that again so I just decided for the rest of my life I would exercise extreme caution. Fighting someone who might be a dick and know where your bar is? No way.
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1glitch0 posted:There's no way I'd fight with a titanium bar in my leg. I have one in my femur and the doctor told me I should take it out after a few years because if the femur broke again it would basically shatter into a million pieces. I did not take his advice because I couldn't go through all of that again so I just decided for the rest of my life I would exercise extreme caution. Fighting someone who might be a dick and know where your bar is? No way. Yeah.. my sister also has a bar on her femur. That's not a minor injury.
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1glitch0 posted:There's no way I'd fight with a titanium bar in my leg. I have one in my femur and the doctor told me I should take it out after a few years because if the femur broke again it would basically shatter into a million pieces. I did not take his advice because I couldn't go through all of that again so I just decided for the rest of my life I would exercise extreme caution. Fighting someone who might be a dick and know where your bar is? No way. Yeah that was definitely a joke. I've got a friend who has bars for his spine and he showed me an xray where one had broken because of exercise 
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Sorta related to the drug discussion a bit back, Colby says Usman was gassed at the end of round 1 and is on EPO. I'd probably choose a different drug if I were accusing someone of gassing but also being on drugs. Definitely not the one that lets cyclists win the tour de france.
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ilmucche posted:Yeah that was definitely a joke. I've got a friend who has bars for his spine and he showed me an xray where one had broken because of exercise Yeah I got you were joking. How bad was that for your friend??
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Sorta related to the drug discussion a bit back, Colby says Usman was gassed at the end of round 1 and is on EPO. It sounds like Colby was saying Usman was gassed at the end of rd1 but because of EPO he basically went the distance afterwards
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Sorta related to the drug discussion a bit back, Colby says Usman was gassed at the end of round 1 and is on EPO. I’m not 100% sure but from what I gather EPO doesn’t stop you getting gassed, but stops being gassed having as much of an effect.
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EPO will let you work harder/longer and recover from hard efforts better.
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ilmucche posted:Yeah that was definitely a joke. I've got a friend who has bars for his spine and he showed me an xray where one had broken because of exercise You're telling me WWF lied and Lex Luger's titanium forearm didn't make him hit harder? Also didn't Rogan believe the metal RDA had put on his jaw after the break made him harder to knock out?
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I'm also part of the intra femoral nail club, but I had to have mine taken out after bone spurs started to form around it  Josuke Higashikata posted:prophetic thread title continues Hollandia fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/combatsportsng/status/1387154600298520576?s=21 If they do a Africa card next year (granted all 3 champs still have titles) it's going to be massive
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willie_dee posted:I’m not 100% sure but from what I gather EPO doesn’t stop you getting gassed, but stops being gassed having as much of an effect. What the gently caress could this possibly mean
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DeimosRising posted:What the gently caress could this possibly mean With the current UFC patch, the "gassed" status effect confers the following debuffs -5% strike speed -10% strike power -5% grapple transition speed EPO reduces these debuffs by 1.5X
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Speaking of EPO https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1387206259104010246 The cut in TJs Instagram post is pretty gnarly. Right in his eyebrow
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/combatsportsng/status/1387154600298520576?s=21 Francis should have given Sokoudjou a spot in the parade. Even if he hasn’t really congratulated or really supported Ngannou on social media.
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DeimosRising posted:What the gently caress could this possibly mean You ever gassed mid sparring? Imagine feeling like that, but your strength and faculties aren’t as gone, just out of breath, which when you catch, you can then continue much easier without your limbs feeling like they weight 5000% as more.
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LobsterMobster posted:With the current UFC patch, the "gassed" status effect confers the following debuffs This made my day. Thank you.
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