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Solice Kirsk posted:They gave a Hugo Award for an acceptance speech of a Hugo Award. That's pretty much all I'll ever need to know about what a Hugo Award is. amazing
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Apr 24, 2021 18:24
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All I care about is that GRRM really cares about it so it’s funny to me.
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Apr 24, 2021 18:49
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And at some point they were floating the idea to give an award to the acceptance speech for that.
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Apr 24, 2021 18:50
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I don't think the Hugos or the Nebulas are a big deal, even though I volunteered at the ceremony last year and am doing so again this year, but the huge for best novel is probably at least somewhat meaningful. The Oscars give Oscars for like best sound editing and best short film and stuff like that too, all anybody usually cares about is best picture and best actor/actress.
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Apr 24, 2021 19:04
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Solice Kirsk posted:They gave a Hugo Award for an acceptance speech of a Hugo Award. That's pretty much all I'll ever need to know about what a Hugo Award is. The nomination process also got lifehacked by a bunch of miserable white supremacists who were mad that they weren't getting any Hugos and it took the people in charge of the awards literally years to figure out what was happening and try to stop it. It culminated in the group nominating a bunch of Chuck Tingle books for Hugos to try and mock the integrity of the awards, and though he lost, he responded with a statement that was basically "gently caress the hateful assholes who nominated me, trans rights are human rights, we need more diversity and inclusivity in science fiction not less, also I'm going to write a fuckton of books mocking the poo poo out of you idiots and I now get to publish them under the moniker Hugo Award Nominated Author." nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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Apr 25, 2021 00:06
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nine-gear crow posted:The nomination process also got lifehacked by a bunch of miserable white supremacists who were mad that they weren't getting any Hugos and it took the people in charge of the awards literally years to figure out what was happening and try to stop it. It culminated in the group nominating a bunch of Chuck Tingle books for Hugos to try and mock the integrity of the awards, and though he lost, he responded with a statement that was basically "gently caress the hateful assholes who nominated me, trans rights are human rights, we need more diversity and inclusivity in science fiction not less, also I'm going to write a fuckton of books mocking the poo poo out of you idiots and I now get to publish them under the moniker Hugo Award Nominated Author." What have they done to stop the sad pathetic humans?
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Apr 25, 2021 12:29
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pseudanonymous posted:I don't think the Hugos or the Nebulas are a big deal, even though I volunteered at the ceremony last year and am doing so again this year, but the huge for best novel is probably at least somewhat meaningful. The Oscars give Oscars for like best sound editing and best short film and stuff like that too, all anybody usually cares about is best picture and best actor/actress. If it wasn’t for the academy’s best short film category, we wouldn’t have John Carpenter.
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Apr 25, 2021 22:42
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Look, all I'm saying is that asking this guy to zoom host your small time award show and then a year later nominate a low-effort blog post calling out how lovely and low effort the hosting last year was mostly because that guy sucks at hosting and pronouncing names is kinda cunty, even if the blog post is 100% on point. If you felt gurm's hosting in your show was that bad just don't invite him to host next time! there are other ways to acknowledge that gurm's hosting was low effort and even insensitive in a way that isn't this weird passive aggressive callout that kind of serves to belittle the other nominees in the category, or w/e. That's just what I'm saying. So would you go so far as to state that gurm is not your bitch?
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Apr 26, 2021 03:42
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Going back to the Orson Scott Card thing from last page, I just saw this and it’s very true. I think a lot of authors write characters that they think should run the world but are being manipulated by society to not use their gifts in the right way. https://mobile.twitter.com/americanwombat/status/1386838938069864449
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Apr 27, 2021 01:54
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nine-gear crow posted:I'll always be amused by how edgy the Dante's Inferno game is as depicted by the fact that the red fabric cross on Dante's torso is sewn directly onto Dante's massive Rob Leifeld chest muscles. There was a genuinely gross promotion put forth by EA's marketing division at the time (which was infamously terrible on the level of PS2-era Acclaim) wherein besides doing nonsense like holding fake protests, they held a contest during E3 called the "sin to win" promotion: https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki...0or%20Facebook. BananaNutkins posted:Brandon is cool but he has a total disregard for prose. I like the story being told for the most part, and the fantasy world and magic stuff is consistently engaging. His characters in Stormlight are mostly stock PoV, and when he tries something different (Shallan, Venli) they can be annoying. But I can't imagine being an audiobook narrator being confronted with something like this passage: (spoilers for Rhythm of War)Kaladin hesitated, spear held toward Moash’s throat. He could end the man. Should end the man. Why did he hesitate? The repetition is a problem that pops' up like you said. It also shows up in other forms like in duels where it straight up looks like he just copy-pastes sentences from one duel scene to another. "First, he lashed his left foot to the ceiling. Then he lashed his right foot to the table with a half-lashing upwards. He dropped out of wind stance to grab the sword with both hands. With a heavy forward lashing, he cut through the stone. Suddenly, out of the corner of his eye, he saw a figure and immediately lashed upwards." That was kind of nonsense, but how many duel scenes does it remind you of? My impression of Brandon is that he's a golden goose and that his publisher would not endorse that he do any unwarranted large-scale rewrites. I do get the feeling that he takes in criticism, and always tries to apply it for his next book. I'm new to his work, but there seems to be an solid, incremental improvement in his stories as time goes on. I'm currently on Rhythm of War in the Stormlight Chronicles and while it seems like it's spinning its wheels, the prose reads so much better than the previous entries in the series. Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 04:33
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Ccs posted:Going back to the Orson Scott Card thing from last page, I just saw this and it’s very true. I think a lot of authors write characters that they think should run the world but are being manipulated by society to not use their gifts in the right way. I have never seen a convincing argument to the contrary. It's always some variant on "Read the next five books the masturbation themes totally wash out" which is a horseshit argument. If you need hundreds of pages of sequels to make a stand-alone book's themes not poo poo, then the book you're referring to is poo poo.
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Apr 27, 2021 07:22
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I was such a dumb teenager that after I finished the Ender books I continued to the Bean books and I guess was really a massive idiot cause that didn't stop me and I read the entire call of earth saga when I knew absolutely nothing about Mormons and their faith. That's how dumb I am. Thanks.
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Apr 27, 2021 07:38
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Cavelcade posted:What's happening with them this year? They're getting pushed back, as Worldcon's delayed until December due to their hotel going out of business.
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Apr 27, 2021 09:44
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mind the walrus posted:I have never seen a convincing argument to the contrary. It's always some variant on "Read the next five books the masturbation themes totally wash out" which is a horseshit argument. If you need hundreds of pages of sequels to make a stand-alone book's themes not poo poo, then the book you're referring to is poo poo. I'm sorry who is claiming this about the Ender books? Each successive sequel and prequel incrementally loses sight of more and more of the stuff that makes Ender's Game work for the people who like Ender's Game
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Apr 27, 2021 09:57
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High Warlord Zog posted:I'm sorry who is claiming this about the Ender books? Each successive sequel and prequel incrementally loses sight of more and more of the stuff that makes Ender's Game work for the people who like Ender's Game
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Apr 27, 2021 12:09
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 I know it's "xkcd posting" but I read Ender's Game around 2006 and just thought "lol nobody's going to give a poo poo about two kids' blogs no matter how much of a smart guy the author thinks he is."
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Apr 27, 2021 12:11
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The only book of that series I've read was "Xenocide", and it was all about Ender's self-flagellation about how wrong it was to xenocide the bug aliens. Including conversations with the new bug queen he saved and brought to a hidden planet, to grow a new civilization in peace. It's basically a 180° from everything else I've heard about the series and I think I dodged a bullet by kramering in near the end of the series, instead of starting at book 1
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Apr 27, 2021 12:39
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The only one of those books I read was Ender's Shadow and I can't remember anything about it. My context for what I was reading was also completely off because I hadn't read the first book. In my highschool there were a number of superfans of Ender's Game, and they all without fail came from the charter school that fed into the public highschool. It makes sense, those kids were doing calculus in 8th grade and were then pushed into a school where calculus was a senior course. They absolutely felt they were better than everybody. The scariest was a guy who was very friendly but incredibly pro-death penalty, and is now pretty high up in the NY criminal justice system...
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Apr 27, 2021 14:30
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Libluini posted:The only book of that series I've read was "Xenocide", and it was all about Ender's self-flagellation about how wrong it was to xenocide the bug aliens. Including conversations with the new bug queen he saved and brought to a hidden planet, to grow a new civilization in peace. did you gaslight the series overton window too?
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Apr 27, 2021 14:32
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Plan Z posted:
OTOH all of Twitter.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:14
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In Ender's Game the point of the story is, "Sometimes you actually need a Hitler to do the dirty work for you." It's still the only entertaining book in the series because of space soccer. Speaker for the Dead is about Card's Mormon missionary trip to Brazil, and Xenocide is Ender being new new Jesus and learning how to do miracles after moping around being an old man who regrets his life for 300 pages.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:27
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:GRRM losing a Hugo to Harry Potter still makes him angry 20 years later so lmao he can go to hell. A reasonable reaction given that Harry Potter is loving garbage and that was apparent even before noticing how utterly hosed up the setting with things like casually being ok with enslaving other sentient races because it's better for them or that the wizard world is at best a combination of Illuminati and And Rowling's a TERF, because she wasn't content just being yet another FYGM hypocrite on top of putting all her other hosed up thoughts in to the HP books.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:44
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ChubbyChecker posted:did you gaslight the series overton window too? you'll have to translate your question from moron to human and try again, sorry BananaNutkins posted:In Ender's Game the point of the story is, "Sometimes you actually need a Hitler to do the dirty work for you." It's still the only entertaining book in the series because of space soccer. Speaker for the Dead is about Card's Mormon missionary trip to Brazil, and Xenocide is Ender being new new Jesus and learning how to do miracles after moping around being an old man who regrets his life for 300 pages. That's an apt description, and I really regret having ever learned about Card's dumb books. Though the bug aliens were cool, I'll give him that.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:46
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BananaNutkins posted:In Ender's Game the point of the story is, "Sometimes you actually need a Hitler to do the dirty work for you." It's still the only entertaining book in the series because of space soccer.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:58
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I read and enjoyed the main Ender series years ago. I remember hearing about Card's weird Mormonism and homophobia soon after but didn't notice any of that in the series. Ender pretty much makes up his own religion. Was there hateful homophobic or right wing subtext that went over my head?
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Apr 27, 2021 17:51
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Evil Fluffy posted:the wizard world is at best a combination of Illuminati and Well, the bad parts of the wizarding world are like that, in that they want to rule humanity. The parts that we see in the series are more like a bunch of magic libertarians who have decided to uphold a nonagression pact with the muggles while living in their hidden Galt's Gulch and enjoying a bunch of benefits that everyone else will never get to experience.
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Apr 27, 2021 18:27
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I was such a dumb teenager that after I finished the Ender books I continued to the Bean books and I guess was really a massive idiot cause that didn't stop me and I read the entire call of earth saga when I knew absolutely nothing about Mormons and their faith. 
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Apr 27, 2021 20:23
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Normy posted:I read and enjoyed the main Ender series years ago. I remember hearing about Card's weird Mormonism and homophobia soon after but didn't notice any of that in the series. Ender pretty much makes up his own religion. Was there hateful homophobic or right wing subtext that went over my head? If you look at the real world communities and their beliefs that Card draws on for his fake religion, you quickly realize that, oh, these are quite conservative reference points. Most of the Bean prequel novels are didactic knock off Tom Clancy things.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:34
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Card's been dragging his feet on writing the last Alvin Maker book for like 2 decades. I actually thought it was kinda cool seeing a super religious guys essentially writing a book of Mormoin fan fic, but the books really started sucking after Red Son, like they were ghost written. I'd still read the Crystal City if it ever came out.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:54
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Ender’s Game is a lot of things, many of them dumb, but it is 100% not this. The whole point of the reveal of the ending is that there was no, and never would be any, Third Formic War: that if humanity had never built any retaliatory fleet or trained up an Ender and just stayed the gently caress home the only result is that billions of dead aliens would be alive and trillions of dollars and man-hours would have been saved and a whole bunch of kids wouldn’t have gotten PTSD. It's kind of weird there are so many "coincidental" congruences between Hitler's bio and Ender's then. Or maybe it's more that the message of the book is "Hitler was just doing his best", since that view is in alignment with Mormon doctrine, and coincidentally Card is a Mormon.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:48
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How about instead we talk about how the Ice and Fire wiki lets you upload any pictures you want for any character. These are both Taena Merryweather: 
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Apr 28, 2021 04:31
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The best one remains the Night Queen.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:41
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The best one remains the Night Queen. Is it still that dude's bare rear end on a block of ice? e: I misremembered it, it's her bare icy rear end. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 05:46
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Apr 28, 2021 11:49
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Not a fan of this person's portraits. They've got portraits for hundreds of characters. Some are alright, most aren't. Then again, I say this as someone with no artistic talent whatsoever. EDIT:  Vichan fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 13:46
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I’d watch this version in a heartbeat. Cersei! Jaime! Team Lannister, banging at the speed of light! Tyrion the halfman, that’s right!
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Apr 28, 2021 15:16
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Vichan posted:Not a fan of this person's portraits. They've got portraits for hundreds of characters. Some are alright, most aren't. A Song of Fire Spin and Ice Beam.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:15
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No Pants posted:I'm having trouble thinking of something that stands out as advanced or modern. The Dornish make candy skulls, but they only come up in a TWOW chapter
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Apr 28, 2021 18:00
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Yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of GRRM announcing that ADWD was done.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yesterday was the 10 year anniversary of GRRM announcing that ADWD was done. I only started reading ASOIAF in 2012, and this made me feel super loving old. I feel sorry for everyone who has been waiting even longer than me.
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