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Apr 28, 2021 00:52
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https://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1387123773153947655
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Apr 28, 2021 01:41
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Dracula Factory posted:One thing I never quite gleaned about the deep lore: Why exactly did Toni take such a stand as a juror in order to get the mistrial for Tim? Was there supposed to be any type of pre-existing relationship? It's amazing because in a room full of people certain he's a monster, she's the only one who believes in him, based on absolutely no evidence. So, of course he marries her, because Tim is ultimately desperately alone. In interviews he often describes Tim and Greg as two characters who are together because no-one else can stand them. His teary plea at the end of the Oscar Special for Greg to leave is such a perfect vocalisation of that
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Apr 28, 2021 01:43
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My take on it is that Tim and Gregg are two different kinds of toxic personalities, Tim is extroverted and Gregg is introverted but ultimately they're both manipulative egoists.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:07
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I see it more as Tim being the typical far-right/conspiracy chud, while Gregg is the kind of gatekeeper super-fanboy geek. Though I think it took longer for (real) Gregg to develop that character persona than it did for (real) Tim, who already had it nailed down by the end of the podcast run. Ultimately, two types of Very Online Person.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:12
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They both feel that they will be personally vindicated if they keep on with their toxic codependent relationship and performatively show off to impartial observers how good they are and how bad the other one is. They're continually chasing the dragon of having someone like Joe say "You know what, you were right all along, and the other guy is a total loser and idiot".
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Apr 28, 2021 02:14
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Except that Gregg knows about movie runtimes and is the real mister movies
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Apr 28, 2021 02:15
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:toni needs the wine to take the edge off when tim really goes beserk, but she does genuinely like him. she thinks he's a smart business man, because he's a grifter and she's a rube. they also have overlap in their political beliefs, and she seems to be attracted to him for his eagerness to stand up against authority. it makes a lot of sense and she feels like one of the most realistic characters in the show makes sense, don't forget that Toni was revealed to be part of a pyramid scene this special
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Apr 28, 2021 02:19
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Hey that pyramid scheme is funding HEI Network thank you very much!
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Apr 28, 2021 02:22
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is there any update on the baby situation? is there going to be a Tom Cruise Heidecker III?
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Apr 28, 2021 03:15
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Toni's had a meteoric rise in the OC universe - mr america was less than two years ago. The character has gained a lot of depth in a short time, when I suppose she could have been a one-note player like ax/manuel
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Apr 28, 2021 03:51
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Hasn't he been holed up in Canada for a few years because he'll get arrested as soon as he steps foot on US soil?
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Apr 28, 2021 03:51
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It was funny to see Tim finally direct some of his rage at Axiom and Manuel. Has he ever shown them anything besides weird brotherly reverence before?
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Apr 28, 2021 03:52
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okay I'm finally watching the first half hour or so which I missed due to the technical problems and lmaooo it's amazing how on the rails this started out
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Apr 28, 2021 03:58
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Ingmar terdman posted:Toni's had a meteoric rise in the OC universe - mr america was less than two years ago. The character has gained a lot of depth in a short time, when I suppose she could have been a one-note player like ax/manuel That is kind of crazy to think, she's only been around for a year and a half or so. I didn't really like her performance in Mr. America, I felt like she was acting a bit too much, but I think she got more into the tone during the subsequent season.
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Apr 28, 2021 04:03
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Data Graham posted:Hey that pyramid scheme is funding HEI Network thank you very much! not anymore lol
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Apr 28, 2021 05:25
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Chairman Capone posted:That is kind of crazy to think, she's only been around for a year and a half or so. I didn't really like her performance in Mr. America, I felt like she was acting a bit too much, but I think she got more into the tone during the subsequent season. The movie and the last season are on the other end of 2020 from here, so I can't remember much along those lines but that makes sense. I need to rewatch the last season
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Apr 28, 2021 06:44
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Disappointed with how much Mark Proksch we got. Also, it was a really ambitious thing to do and they pulled it off beautifully. I do hope they go back to a more traditional format next time around. huh fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 07:40
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derp posted:not anymore lol Yeah I think we might see Toni's business crumbling because of the bad publicity while HEI Network is still a success, so Tim is no longer dependent on her and quickly starts to resent her and Matt.
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Apr 28, 2021 08:16
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hoo ahhhhhh
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Apr 28, 2021 10:18
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robot roll call posted:It was funny to see Tim finally direct some of his rage at Axiom and Manuel. Has he ever shown them anything besides weird brotherly reverence before? With him dumping resources into the HEI Network, I think this special is one of the first times Tim has started to realize that he's surrounded himself with people that help feed his ego but are actually wildly incompetent at most things. His anger at Axiom and Manuel and Rock House betrayed how worried he is about this whole house of cards collapsing. In that same vein, I appreciated that once Tim anointed Joe as "Mister Money," Joe wanted to take the job seriously and made note cards and everything
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Apr 28, 2021 15:04
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Joe always puts his 100% into the assignment.
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Apr 28, 2021 15:29
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Joe is amazing. He is fantastic at improv, has hilarious timing, and this version he plays of himself is so God drat believable. He honest to God deserves an emmy for his work on On Cinema
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Apr 28, 2021 16:10
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Joe's delivery of "oh he'll be over the moon!" regarding Tim's recovery and return to OCATC plays in my head a lot He's too realistic
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Apr 28, 2021 16:18
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Joe is amazing. He is fantastic at improv, has hilarious timing, and this version he plays of himself is so God drat believable. He honest to God deserves an emmy for his work on On Cinema There's a bit in the rehearsal footage where tim is directing/noting joe on how he should soft-talk tim into calling gregg. A lot of respect and trust both ways. There's also a couple minutes where they are setting up gregg's calls to joe where he asks if he can just use his actual phone, which is of course a flip phone, because he's admittedly "still stuck in 1996". Protect joe at all costs
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Apr 28, 2021 16:52
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Tim and Gregg are definitely locked in a narcissistic, codependent death ouroboros at this point. Greg needs Tim because Tim's a hustler who makes (bad) things happen which gives Gregg opportunities to assert his value as an expert to an audience, and Tim needs Gregg because he hasn't gotten Gregg to admit that he's Tim's inferior yet. It's kind of like the Daniel\Eli relationship in There Will Be Blood, except since it takes place in modern day southern California & they're both massive celebrity obsessed failures, the stakes are really low, dumb & trashy.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:55
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Heinetwork.tv now has both streams edited for proper synchronization, and a side-by-side version.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:03
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Heinetwork.tv now has both streams edited for proper synchronization, and a side-by-side version. https://www.heinetwork.tv/oscar-special/combined-special/ hell yes
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Apr 28, 2021 20:14
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Clearly the only reason Tim was angry with Rock House was it reminded everyone of Axiom's beautiful singing voice and his rage at being outdone came to light. Otherwise, Rock House was the perfect trailer for a perfect show.
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Apr 28, 2021 20:44
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Raeg posted:Clearly the only reason Tim was angry with Rock House was it reminded everyone of Axiom's beautiful singing voice and his rage at being outdone came to light. Otherwise, Rock House was the perfect trailer for a perfect show. This was my interpretation too, it's so perfect that axiom and manuel are actually talented but have somehow been manipulated and used up by tim. like lolol that Tim is the singer when ax has a voice like that. Also remember it came out in the Trial that empty bottle was basically a remake of a song by manuel's old band
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Apr 28, 2021 21:01
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manuel and axiom are interesting characters. they remind me a lot of the crew that hung around Joe Exotic, in that they are clearly benefitting from their association with Tim, with him funding their lifestyles, but to some extent the closeness isn't totally fabricated. like, axiom probably didn't have to give tim his hand. and i feel like i remember other instances of them showing some genuine concern for tim, that seemed a bit beyond their typical yes-manning. it wouldn't shock me to learn that tim has control over their immigration status
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Apr 28, 2021 21:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRjNkiDaeI another patriot struck down in service to his country. rip la roux. wwg1wga.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:21
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:manuel and axiom are interesting characters. they remind me a lot of the crew that hung around Joe Exotic, in that they are clearly benefitting from their association with Tim, with him funding their lifestyles, but to some extent the closeness isn't totally fabricated. like, axiom probably didn't have to give tim his hand. and i feel like i remember other instances of them showing some genuine concern for tim, that seemed a bit beyond their typical yes-manning. I've been obsessing over these kind of larger-than-life people and the galaxies of hangers-on that form around them for years now. Joe Exotic, Trump, "Tim", one or two or three guys I know personally — it's a pattern that plays out over and over and people just seem naturally to perpetuate it when it starts to form. It's symbiotic and self-destructive all at once, to say nothing of hugely damaging to everything and everyone around it, except those who are able to ride it and grow fat off it for as long as the emotional ponzi scheme holds out. I really think humanity needs these kinds of open-eyed studies of these Type-A Idiot Geniuses because they're going to be the doom of our species
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Apr 28, 2021 21:26
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One of my favorite moments that really encapsulates their dynamic is Gregg's Visit to Bond segment. Tim is being his usual unbearably obnoxious self so you instinctively want to defend Gregg, but at the same time it's like... Gregg, man, this segment sucks. He's just wordlessly posing with a gun in front of a powerpoint. Any time the show forces you to empathize with Tim is when the show really shines imo - another major instance of that is the DNA test proving it's the "real" James Dean, since you share the same frustration with the lack of closure.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:30
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its absolutely conclusively the real james dean, imo
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Apr 28, 2021 21:31
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:its absolutely conclusively the real james dean, imo Do you think this is a loving joke? Edit for actual content: one of the things I really love with all of Tim's various hangers on (except for Toni, i guess) is that they almost completely ignore Gregg. Dr. San spoke only to Tim and stared off when Gregg complained about him, and Ax and Manuel do the same thing. It makes for great awkwardness but you also get the sense they're waiting to see if Tim will recognize that Gregg is right, Tim really is being used Cognac McCarthy fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 21:36
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The show just wouldn't work as well if it were a simple straight man/comedy man dynamic. I love the fact that whenever Gregg does try to do his own thing it's just as weird, bad, and incompetent as Tim but for entirely different reasons.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Do you think this is a loving joke? What I noticed during the special was actually Manuel being really nice to Gregg. He helped him carry all his stuff, later when Gregg gave him the watch Manuel seemed genuinely thankful and said it was cool and put it on. Gregg didn't even have to tell him Tim said to like he told Toni.
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