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Somberbrero posted:D1 full claim? I have a weird power 😲 It would definitely have more utility as a scum role, yes.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:06
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Bifauxnen posted:I'm having s hard time parsing this post since it's replying to Somber and saying he sounds reasonable, but then talking about mason claiming instead. And I'm not sure if you're referring to the confirmed mason claim or the unconfirmed main claim, and if that's to compare and contrast with Somber and imply somehow that Somber is the one doing a very town thing, or if it's a jump cut with no segue so actually you aren't talking about Somber's role at any point. Yea that reads weird on a reread. I meant to compare and contrast someone else strongly claiming mason involvement VS somber’s soft claim that seemed reasonable @ this moment.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:14
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Apr 28, 2021 22:14
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Idk somber I don't think anyone has seriously pushed you or said your OA case was super bad. I don't get what the fuss is but it's gonne be aight. I'm interested to see what benis thinks scum was doing yesterday,...
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Apr 28, 2021 22:16
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GenericGirlName posted:Yea that reads weird on a reread. Hm. I actually disagree. The original soft claim came out as a way of “verifying” the cop, which seemed - without a counter claim forthcoming - not really needing any confirmation. To me, as I said in my vote D1, that sounded more scummy because it was a free way to curry favor and “confirm” a basically confirmed cop
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Apr 28, 2021 22:17
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.random posted:Hey cool, OA. Dropping a vote on who I voted at the end of D1 and calling me scum in the same breath. I feel comfortable re-voting somber so let’s get that out of the way first .random posted:.random thoughts (tm-ing the hell out of that): I went back to find the previous vote because I didn't know why random was voting me. Seems pretty weak to ride that into d2 without much further analysis, and weird to not comment on Obama's or merk's posts. Also 3rd vote scum? ##vote random Voodoo you are a monster for preferring phone browser to the app, this is excruciating.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:19
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.random posted:Hm. I actually disagree. The original soft claim came out as a way of “verifying” the cop, which seemed - without a counter claim forthcoming - not really needing any confirmation. To me, as I said in my vote D1, that sounded more scummy because it was a free way to curry favor and “confirm” a basically confirmed cop I don't think scum would confirm a town cop claims mechanics being weird.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:20
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Toalpaz posted:Idk somber I don't think anyone has seriously pushed you or said your OA case was super bad. I don't get what the fuss is but it's gonne be aight. I'm being gaslit
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Apr 28, 2021 22:20
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Somberbrero posted:I'm being gaslit Prepare to be girlbossed and gatekept
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Apr 28, 2021 22:22
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GenericGirlName posted:Yea that reads weird on a reread. That's making a bit more sense to me but I am still confused now about one thing. You seem to be backing up Somber in saying "soft claiming isn't inherently scummy in general, like merk seems to think"... GenericGirlName posted:I have no context for Mafia Mafia but the rest of this seems reasonable. I think the mason claiming was pretty sus w/ as quickly as it happened. But soft claiming a role because you want to make sure town isn’t wildly off base seems like a very town thing to do. But are you trying to say your initial impression of my mason claim with binus was wrong, and you shouldn't have been so suspicious of it when it seems like a townie thing to do actually? Or do you still think we're sus, and you're calling Somber's claim more townie?
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Apr 28, 2021 22:24
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Bifauxnen posted:That's making a bit more sense to me but I am still confused now about one thing. You seem to be backing up Somber in saying "soft claiming isn't inherently scummy in general, like merk seems to think"... I'm definitively calling Somber's claim more townie, but I didn't think your mason claim w/ binus was sus enough to be a scum play, maybe just a weird town play thats Too Smart For Me. Just because I compared them both in one post doesn't mean I think 1 has to be a town play and the other a scum play.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:27
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GenericGirlName posted:Just because I compared them both in one post doesn't mean I think 1 has to be a town play and the other a scum play. just general clarification to head that off
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Apr 28, 2021 22:29
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Somberbrero posted:I went back to find the previous vote because I didn't know why random was voting me. Seems pretty weak to ride that into d2 without much further analysis, and weird to not comment on Obama's or merk's posts. Also 3rd vote scum? I was being a badass and dropping the mic cuz I beat OA to it last night. It felt cooler in my head. But to whit: I agree that OA pointed to language that exemplifies my bad vibes. I need to reread you to evaluate Merk’s point, but I felt comfortable re-voting as it was. I’ll give a reread later though and let you know my opinions. So along with your me-vote did you want to bother to explain your Mr. F vote or no?
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Apr 28, 2021 22:34
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GenericGirlName posted:I'm definitively calling Somber's claim more townie, but I didn't think your mason claim w/ binus was sus enough to be a scum play, maybe just a weird town play thats Too Smart For Me. Just because I compared them both in one post doesn't mean I think 1 has to be a town play and the other a scum play. Ok that's what really confuses me, I didn't think that could be what you meant. Me and binus very explicitly made our claim as early as we did to "make sure town isn't wildly off base". I often die early anyway, and if either of us died before we claimed, the person left would have a much harder time explaining all on their lonesome that actually, we were confirmed masons. Somber's claim is more townie cause...? How is a very vague softclaim of "hey I have a weird power", to breadcrumb some multivote thing, supposed to help keep town from getting off base?
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Apr 28, 2021 22:34
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.random posted:So along with your me-vote did you want to bother to explain your Mr. F vote or no? I didn't want a no lunch.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:44
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Toalpaz posted:I don't think scum would confirm a town cop claims mechanics being weird. If there were serious concerns about it DGK were lying, I agree. I don’t think there were, and thus I thought it sounded performative
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Apr 28, 2021 22:44
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It was maybe a little bit performative because I do think claiming is fun and exciting 😅 it's like you get a chance to have a little parlor room moment where you get to add another piece of the puzzle and someone else says 'wait if *that* is true then...'
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Apr 28, 2021 22:51
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Somberbrero posted:I didn't want a no lunch. You were the third vote on Mr. F (I think. If I am reading VoteFinder right) - that’s hardly in terminal “well, there are no other reasonable choices” territory
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Apr 28, 2021 22:51
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.random posted:You were the third vote on Mr. F (I think. If I am reading VoteFinder right) - that’s hardly in terminal “well, there are no other reasonable choices” territory Yeah I'm not playing a great game.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:53
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Somberbrero posted:Voodoo you are a monster for preferring phone browser to the app, this is excruciating. It's like preferring a needle in the eye to a needle in the groin.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:55
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##vote merk Mostly gut, but the whole "I'm not in a persuasive mood" thing yesterday has stuck with me. I also think the way he rolled off DGK to IA to Mr. F was pretty scummy. I've been thinking about it all day and I still like the gut vote, at least more than anything else at the moment. I thought I was going to vote somber but his posts feel honest right now, and why would he soft claim with no pressure day 1 when DGK claimed?
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Apr 28, 2021 22:58
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It would allow Somber to claim a truthful thing like a good townie while also still being scum and not really giving any great info out
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Apr 28, 2021 23:02
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Sandwolf posted:It would allow Somber to claim a truthful thing like a good townie while also still being scum and not really giving any great info out Maybe. I’d still rather vote merk.
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Apr 28, 2021 23:17
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The last few posts are the most honest sounding you’ve made and tbh I feel kind of bad  fine, I’m gonna unvote til I can do that read through on merk’s point later tonight.##unvote
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Apr 28, 2021 23:22
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##vote ggn
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Apr 29, 2021 00:18
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I still think it's Sandy, I'm feeling it ##vote sandwolf
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Apr 29, 2021 00:25
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Random's unvote feels super reasonable ##unvote I'm not getting the ggn vote, what's up with that?
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Apr 29, 2021 00:46
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Somberbrero posted:Random's unvote feels super reasonable ##unvote She can lurk a lot when she's scum, and the times she's showed up feel like she's not actually contributing, just showing up to be seen to be doing something. That reply to you that I've been prodding her about is a great example. It doesn't seem to make any sense as a townie thought process actually trying to figure the game out. I suspect she didn't actually think you making some super vague claim of having a power at all before you explained your role later, which ended up just being some voting thing, could be more townie than me and binus claiming our masonry to try and better prove our alignments to people. I suspect she only said something like that to suck because she already knows you're town after all. Cause she's scum.
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Apr 29, 2021 00:50
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Bifauxnen posted:I suspect she only said something like that to suck because she already knows you're town after all. Cause she's scum. Oh jeez maf edit: "to suck UP", not just "to suck" that was not intended to be that mean lol
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Apr 29, 2021 00:52
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Bifauxnen posted:She can lurk a lot when she's scum, and the times she's showed up feel like she's not actually contributing, just showing up to be seen to be doing something. Okay, I think I understand. Essentially the comment on my claim was fake because you believe that ggn's reaction to my claim doesn't match up with ggn's reaction to your claim, she was in a rush to believe me because she thought it would make her look townie? Am I stating that correctly? I guess I don't have so much confidence in that immediately because I find the confusion believable, but I'd have to go back and see the comment ggn made about your claim. One thing that sticks out to me is Toalpaz's comment on how this was a good start for scum. I'm a little confused as to why. We lost a mason and a 3p survivor and that's it? I don't get the scum mindset for that comment, but I also don't get the town motivation.
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Apr 29, 2021 00:59
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Somberbrero posted:Okay, I think I understand. Essentially the comment on my claim was fake because you believe that ggn's reaction to my claim doesn't match up with ggn's reaction to your claim, she was in a rush to believe me because she thought it would make her look townie? Am I stating that correctly? Yeah you got it pretty much. And I voted her for some extra oomph to try and get her to explain where she's coming from in that post but it doesn't seem to add up to me. Don't know if she's like, in a rush to believe you cause that'd directly make her look townie, but more like, trying to find something to talk about as scum. And finally landing on making a post that's just something kinda conversational with you and non confrontational, all "oh yeah I see where you're coming from" (which is easier when you already know someone's town) instead of making reads. Except by saying that nice stuff to you she (seemingly accidentally imo) left this weird implication that my mason claim somehow wasn't as Towny as your "softclaim" and it doesn't seem to make sense. When I pushed her on it, she seems to have just bailed after a bit to lie low again. Don't wanna get all into post-timing arguments too hard but yeah I suspect her for content lurking like this overall.
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Its tough to say, I don't think it's GGN just because I don't want it to be GGN. It would be nice if GGN wasn't responding to reads on her, and talked more about other players. I will say that I won't lose sleep over voting merk today. I am down, it's just that openly saying that you'll be playing differently is kind of a bold thing to do as scum but it isn't impossible at all. Somberbrero posted:One thing that sticks out to me is Toalpaz's comment on how this was a good start for scum. I'm a little confused as to why. We lost a mason and a 3p survivor and that's it? I don't get the scum mindset for that comment, but I also don't get the town motivation. If someone says something in a mafia game but no one flips them is it scummy or not scummy.  (For this I tried to mimic the saying: If a tree falls in the woods with no one around does it make a sound, but I feel it fell flat.)
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Apr 29, 2021 01:08
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b-minus1 posted:##vote ggn I’m down with this I’m pretty sure. ##vote GGN
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Apr 29, 2021 01:26
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Sandwolf posted:It would allow Somber to claim a truthful thing like a good townie while also still being scum and not really giving any great info out This isn’t bad, but I am kind of mehing in somber.
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Apr 29, 2021 01:27
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merk posted:This isn’t bad, but I am kind of mehing in somber. don't disagree but feel a little weird about the GGN lunch too idk
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Apr 29, 2021 01:58
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Sandwolf posted:don't disagree but feel a little weird about the GGN lunch too idk My vote is based on gut from a single post. I haven’t gone back to do the read I want yet.
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Apr 29, 2021 02:00
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##vote random their posts are scummy af. Epic case I know
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Apr 29, 2021 03:17
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Voodoofly posted:##vote merk I've been sitting with it and I agree. ##vote merk I would interpret it this way, it feels like we're in a losing pattern right now and merk is okay with that.
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Somberbrero posted:I've been sitting with it and I agree. Hmmmmmm well, I'm not totally convinced of merk's towniness. But I'm still leaning more for people who are lurking harder. With things going so slow today, I just got a vibe like scums are gonna be extra cautious about sticking their nose out and tipping the balance the wrong way.
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