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I never get tired of determinism/nondeterminism debates (seriously). The problem, or question, of consciousness always follows immediately so I wonder: can an unconscious
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nut posted:if you don't watch this for the info, at least watch it for perhaps the best cinematic project ever created I'm gonna watch it again. I think it's around episode 13 when it turns hard into the syndicate/canal/octopus, and Baca begins to crack ping. Remember the phone recording of McGowan's "suicide"? Then by ep 20 the pedos are there and at the end we're talking 9/11 and Balkan heroin trafficking. Baca is a genuine underappreciated dude, like Nick Bryant.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:17
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Connection to the nugan hand bank, which gets overlooked when talking CIA money laundering https://nuganhand.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/1981-triple-murder-tied-to-mcgowan-murders-suicide/
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Apr 27, 2021 22:20
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gh0stpinballa posted:Connection to the nugan hand bank, which gets overlooked when talking CIA money laundering quote:On July 1, 1981, Fred Alvarez, his girlfriend Patty Castro and friend Ralph Boger were shot to death on Bob Hope Drive in Rancho Mirage. There was a house at the location that has since been bulldozed. Nobody was ever arrested for the shooting.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:21
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What's incredible is it really is all the same huge syndicate, w Epstein's operation being just one part of it.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:23
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what’s odd(or totally fitting) is that they may or may not have found the guy responsible for the triple homicide, but in any case he got off, is a (lol) missionary in Latin America, and now claims to be a spiritual advisor for the not-at-all-a-narco government Chiefs of Staff for Honduras
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Apr 27, 2021 22:41
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please don't laugh at me but how in the hell do yall keep all of this info together, like how do you keep track of the whos other than the fact that it's all so loving incestuous it's beyond parody i have a project i've just started to work on and i need a good deal of spook poo poo for research, even getting a slice of it all to show its enormity seems daunting
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Apr 27, 2021 22:45
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i dont keep track of it, i just go to kroger and call the g4s guy standing at the door a pedophile
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Apr 27, 2021 22:51
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I never get tired of determinism/nondeterminism debates (seriously). The problem, or question, of consciousness always follows immediately so I wonder: can an unconscious ask a non-western/indigenous/colonized person lol
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Apr 27, 2021 22:58
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nishi koichi posted:other than the fact that it's all so loving incestuous it's beyond parody that's pretty much it. just think of any given person in a position of meaningful power and poke at their backgrounds ... parents, schooling, internships/jobs, social clubs ... the dots connect themselves from there
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Apr 27, 2021 23:13
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is the reason jeffrey’s head is so big so the prosthetics will fit anyone?
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Apr 27, 2021 23:42
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nishi koichi posted:please don't laugh at me but how in the hell do yall keep all of this info together, like how do you keep track of the whos im a down home salt of the earth epstein poster. corkboard and string is a little rustic but it works for me and many other posters ITT.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:47
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inferis posted:is the reason jeffrey’s head is so big so the prosthetics will fit anyone? it's true. i was jeffrey for three months in 2011
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Apr 27, 2021 23:51
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six time Jeffrey here
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Apr 28, 2021 00:02
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i am an aspiring jeffrey epstein
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Apr 28, 2021 00:06
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I am Jeffrey X!
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Apr 28, 2021 00:38
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gh0stpinballa posted:Connection to the nugan hand bank, which gets overlooked when talking CIA money laundering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tyybVuSBU
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paul_soccer12 posted:i am an aspiring jeffrey epstein softening up the old hyoid
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Backweb posted:lol do we know if he rose to prominence in the same murky way Jared Leto did? what? Jared Leto had been an actor in Hollywood for years before he decided to be a musician.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:an actor in Hollywood a respectable and decidedly unmurky profession
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I never get tired of determinism/nondeterminism debates (seriously). The problem, or question, of consciousness always follows immediately so I wonder: can an unconscious "Free will" is an incoherent concept that relies on an essentially dualist view of the world. You are always-already not really a unified "self" that makes a "decision", at all.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:12
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controlling the Jeffrey Epstein full size puppet like the Big Bird costume
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Apr 28, 2021 04:04
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nishi koichi posted:please don't laugh at me but how in the hell do yall keep all of this info together, like how do you keep track of the whos it's all in my brain
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Apr 28, 2021 04:59
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Ace of Baes posted:it's all in my brain same, in the form of a fragile geodesic matrix of calcified useful grey matter thats been slowly speleotheming since childhood. upon my death this formation can be extracted and, hopefully, pinned to a corkboard
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mdemone posted:"Free will" is an incoherent concept that relies on an essentially dualist view of the world. You are always-already not really a unified "self" that makes a "decision", at all. today, I am a fountain pen.
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Best I can tell i am a mass of organisms and organized mental constructs that can both exist as a whole that is unified in purpose and intent, but also an incredibly divided mess? It does not manifest as more than one discrete personality or anything. It's just "me", but it's also just a sum of parts, some of which operate for sure without needing input from whatever i have that constitutes an entity making executive decisions. Like right now there are at least three parallel lines of thinking in my noggin and some of them dont even see the world the same way. Idk that probably sounds fake and made up but im sincerely just trying to relay my experience with regards to consciousness and why are we talking about this
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nut posted:the pentagon PuErhTeabag posted:pentagrams too woah
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gh0stpinballa posted:I'm gonna watch it again. I think it's around episode 13 when it turns hard into the syndicate/canal/octopus, and Baca begins to crack ping. Remember the phone recording of McGowan's "suicide"? Then by ep 20 the pedos are there and at the end we're talking 9/11 and Balkan heroin trafficking. Baca is a genuine underappreciated dude, like Nick Bryant. Episode 13 is missing 
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Riot Bimbo posted:why are we talking about this Xaris posted:there's an extent that things can still be an op even if they aren't directly on the payroll of the cia/fbi/nsa/dhs/dod/mi5/mossad/etc to be an op. to that i mean that the entire academia (and to a lesser degree, primary ed) framework and structure has been largely curated and guided by the hand of intelligence and defense agencies/politicans/elite, over the last four/five decades, to turn it into essentially a factory to reproduce very useful neoliberal status-quo protecting idiots on an assembly line.
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I think a lot of this is just emergent behavior. lovely stuff happens naturally when there are groups of people, such that it can just happen to line up with the interests of those who make deceptions and plots. Yeah, the secret programs do study sabotage. They do sabotage communities (including academics), they do study psychology from an ecological standpoint (remember earlier when we found out "Industrial and Organizational Psychology" is so thick with spies to seem like a field that grooms academics for learning how to sabotage and manipulate groups). They study how to make sociopaths (SynAnon Church, Kaczynski, etc). But people sometimes sabotage things on their own. Their own communities, cultures, studies, philosophies etc. without needing outside intervention. It happens by way of misunderstandings and abusive nature. If it wasn't a natural emergent behavior, the job of forcing it to happen would be much harder. Unfortunately it is. It seems to have enabled plenty of sabotage by rulers in the past too, throughout all of history as rulers took advantage of the upper hand to deceive others. The natural emergent shittiness of people has always been there to help with that, long before the invention of modern secret programs.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:THEY GOT HIM THEY loving GOT HIM THEY loving GOT HIM reminiscing
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there sure are a lot of banned users on the epstein death page
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inferis posted:there sure are a lot of banned users on the epstein death page they fell so that we could
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The character Chris Partlow from The Wire has got to be some kind of undercover agent assigned to reorganize/train gang members. That'd explain his actions and skillset further than even the writers probably went.
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Governments banning all the drugs that alter people's states of consciousness so they can study it from an outside perspective while the CIA runs their own experiments on people with MKULTRA. Hhhm very curious. I'm sure we can believe the government when they tell us that we have no free will and we are just bio-machines. Please ignore the thousands of years of people reaching altered states and telling us the exact opposites in regards to consciousness being located in the individual body only. Just far too dangerous for us to explore! In other news someone's fired up their microwave gun again https://globalnews.ca/news/7809823/havana-syndrome-canadian-recent-cases/
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Fried Watermelon posted:Governments banning all the drugs that alter people's states of consciousness so they can study it from an outside perspective while the CIA runs their own experiments on people with MKULTRA. Hhhm very curious. in that light, the MKUltra project to fund Raymond Prince's anthropological studies on Yoruba healing practices make a lot more sense
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Happy Thread posted:The character Chris Partlow from The Wire has got to be some kind of undercover agent assigned to reorganize/train gang members. That'd explain his actions and skillset further than even the writers probably went. It'd more poetic if he were set up to be this agent but his murderous hatred of child rapists was the thing that stopped him from becoming one and forced him into a life of street crime.
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Also out of the characters, Stringer is even more skilled than Chris at organizing and training gangs and setting up deceptions, but for him it's more the generalized skillset of a petty ruler (and he is very petty). Chris on the other hand has the skillset of a tactician that's so militarized that he stands out like a sore thumb.Regulus74 posted:It'd more poetic if he were set up to be this agent but his murderous hatred of child rapists was the thing that stopped him from becoming one and forced him into a life of street crime. I'd argue that agents aren't allowed to know what the other agents are doing, outside of their own little cells. For someone like Chris (who may have been former/"former" military), who is assigned into a local gang, it's not like he would (at any point on the way to that) have been told much. His job would not have needed him to be put in a big classroom where his superiors smugly explain the truth of Maxwell and Wexner and Clinton to all the trainees on big corkboard with string. In general in the IC, a lot of personal lines would certainly be crossed if agents all knew what all the others were up to, but each one probably thinks that their own plot they're working on is the most evil thing being done anywhere. Plus, I saw "anywhere," not "the US", because they don't necessarily know that it's the US doing it. There are presumably much larger network of "unwitting" agents who deniably work for front orgs instead of the US. Most don't even know to associate what they do with the US, much less associate the US with child sex trafficking. Plus, they're trained to embrace that deniability---to immediately turn off their ears and to run interference whenever anyone accuses the community of anything. Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 08:37 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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I was on YouTube last night and this commercial for a big data product called Lumen appeared. It's a personal device for directing metabolism. Anyways, there's a part where the actress says that Lumen, "doesn't just tell you what to do..." and it made me think of the free will conversation in this thread. I'm sold on the idea that we're being railroaded into a narrow ideal of perceived individuality and that capital believes the market would stop fluctuating with these cyclic crises if the software in our products was stronger, because it's people and not the system that is the problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkoGiPhAoGs&t=57s
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The workings of the universe boil down to the interaction of subatomic particles. Were you able to build a computer powerful enough to map their movements, you could predict with 100% accuracy which Eyes Wide Shut party filled with 14 year olds I would be attending at any given moment.
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