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So I did my reread. I think your vote on OA wasn't especially compelling, Somber, but it felt like an okay D1 vote to me - I look for the same kind of stuff (to great effect and not at all looking scummy apparently, see also: my vote on Toalpaz). The biggest thing that stood out on reread is how dramatically different your posts are today vs. D1. I tend to be a bit of an emotional voter so there's a non-zero chance I am being somewhat emotionally manipulated here, but I agree with the prevailing thread sentiment that my feelings have cooled over today.
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GenericGirlName posted:I'm definitively calling Somber's claim more townie Ok, can you please explain why? This is reeeeeeeeeeally confusing to me.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:03
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Bifauxnen posted:Hmmmmmm well, I'm not totally convinced of merk's towniness. But I'm still leaning more for people who are lurking harder. i'm just not confident that we're going to solve this game by flipping lurkers. like i get your ggn case and it's a decent argument, but i would be surprised if ggn flipped scum. it feels like we're flowing along the path of least resistance with lurker votes and i don't like that. i could just be paranoid.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:08
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I'm paranoid that GGN wasn't getting hardly any attention despite all her lurking, while Mags/Mr F was easy enough to get those votes piled on. Plus all the points I made recently. If she flipped scum I would sure not be surprised!
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Apr 29, 2021 06:15
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Bifauxnen posted:She can lurk a lot when she's scum, and the times she's showed up feel like she's not actually contributing, just showing up to be seen to be doing something. This meta info is really interesting and currently the only logical reason I can see for the way this came out. This is actually very similar to the reason I got so bent out of shape RE: Somber's soft claim... it's a low-content feeling comment that has a sheen of townieness but doesn't really contribute much at all e: ninja'd "soft claim"
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Apr 29, 2021 06:22
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.random posted:This meta info is really interesting and currently the only logical reason I can see for the way this came out. This is actually very similar to the reason I got so bent out of shape RE: Somber's soft claim... it's a low-content feeling comment that has a sheen of townieness but doesn't really contribute much at all Eh? The only "meta info" I got to contribute on GGN is "she can lurk a lot as scum", seems pretty cut and dry and not all that much of a really interesting insight 
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Apr 29, 2021 06:26
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Eh I was sure somber was probably scum yesterday but I agree with bif that GGN is posting like she wants to defend someone she knows is town for townie points ##vote GGN I’ll have to have a reread of Merk as I don’t really have an opinion on him right now. Again random is also posting really weird still and his interactions with somber make me feel even less certain now that somber could be scum
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Apr 29, 2021 06:26
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Eh I was sure somber was probably scum yesterday but I agree with bif that GGN is posting like she wants to defend someone she knows is town for townie points Omg, are you just literally following me around when I post suspicions on people and then voting them and adding "and random is scummy" to the end of whatever you post? This is getting ridiculous
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Apr 29, 2021 06:30
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.random posted:Omg, are you just literally following me around when I post suspicions on people and then voting them and adding "and random is scummy" to the end of whatever you post? This is getting ridiculous Fine. In fairness other people were posting suspicions on GGN first. I apologize for the outburst.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:32
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.random posted:Omg, are you just literally following me around when I post suspicions on people and then voting them and adding "and random is scummy" to the end of whatever you post? This is getting ridiculous I didn’t even notice you’d posted anything about GGN? If you’re suspicious put a vote down instead of this weak poo poo.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:34
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I am trying to wait for some further comment from the lurker. We're nowhere near deadline. But fine, I will lodge my suspicions as a formal vote ??? ##vote: GGN (Does the day end when 7 votes is reached? Or will it only end at deadline?)
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Apr 29, 2021 06:49
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.random posted:I am trying to wait for some further comment from the lurker. We're nowhere near deadline. But fine, I will lodge my suspicions as a formal vote ??? Either or
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Apr 29, 2021 06:54
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You know what, screw it, looking through your post history is like nothing but posts on how scummy I am, without voting me. I’m not in a rush to end the day, so here, have your OMGUS: ##vote: OA
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Apr 29, 2021 07:07
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.random posted:You know what, screw it, looking through your post history is like nothing but posts on how scummy I am, without voting me. Lol
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Apr 29, 2021 07:14
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##vote OA
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Apr 29, 2021 07:36
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Sandwolf posted:I think Somber and GGN look worst on the lunch yesterday. Both put down strong “here’s a vote on who looks to be vote leader, I’m done engaging, deuces.” Which now that MRF flipped town looks scummy as hell Sandwolf posted:don't disagree but feel a little weird about the GGN lunch too idk What's happened between these two posts?
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Apr 29, 2021 07:48
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I dunno I'm prodding around, GGN does feel a little bit like a path of least resistance, and while I note the discrepancy between the ease of MRF votes and the hesitancy to GGN votes, I'd say it's because we did MRF and it didn't go well, so now I feel like maybe we need to look a little harder
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Apr 29, 2021 07:52
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Weird! You and Somber say stuff like "path of least resistance" or "we need to look harder" but all I'm hearing is, "our first attempt at a lurker lunch didn't get the right one on the first try so let's give up before we hit lurking scum", how's it doing that
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Apr 29, 2021 07:59
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How’re you so sure there’s lurking scum?
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Apr 29, 2021 08:47
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Sandwolf posted:How’re you so sure there’s lurking scum? It is a high statistical probability in Mafia in general.
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Apr 29, 2021 09:01
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Sandwolf posted:How’re you so sure there’s lurking scum? Man the more I think about it though, this does not sound like a townie-minded question.
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Apr 29, 2021 09:22
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Sandwolf posted:I dunno I'm prodding around, GGN does feel a little bit like a path of least resistance, and while I note the discrepancy between the ease of MRF votes and the hesitancy to GGN votes, I'd say it's because we did MRF and it didn't go well, so now I feel like maybe we need to look a little harder I agree with this. I’m pretty sure I was the first person to vote mr f. And that was based off one post he had made. When he returned to the game, i didn’t think he was flailing scum and some of the votes for him were incredibly lazy. Anyway, I think I want to vote voodoo today. A handful of people thought he was scummy yesterday but only me and bif actually voted him. Maybe one other person. Why was it so difficult to get people to vote him? Hmmm I wonder. ##vote voodoo
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Apr 29, 2021 13:54
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Voodoos gut vote on me doesn’t seem like a great strategy for scum. I was on board until that vote.
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Apr 29, 2021 14:33
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That is true. It’s a little early for a flailing scum vote.
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Apr 29, 2021 15:41
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Apr 29, 2021 16:36
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a little weird OA didn’t respond to any votes on him or anything, actually, really at all
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Apr 29, 2021 17:09
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##unvote I'm working on some paranoid conspiracy theories need to let them settle
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Apr 29, 2021 17:15
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Morning all- oh it's only 2 am I'm goin back to sleep wake me up if GGN posts anything
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Apr 29, 2021 17:32
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Seems we’ve dried up a bit on posting today.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:34
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Sandwolf posted:Seems we’ve dried up a bit on posting today. Yeah, did I forget how timezones work, is it still the weekend for you guys or something
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Apr 29, 2021 17:35
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Nah it’s Thursday afternoon lol
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Apr 29, 2021 17:35
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b-minus1 posted:I agree with this. I’m pretty sure I was the first person to vote mr f. And that was based off one post he had made. When he returned to the game, i didn’t think he was flailing scum and some of the votes for him were incredibly lazy. I mean this is the exact same logic you all used with DGK yesterday, that someone stalling on a couple votes means they are scum, right?
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Apr 29, 2021 17:50
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This very engaged response is somehow exactly what I was expecting Paging GGN to thread  (I swear there was a :justlurk: or something but I am not going to try to find it using the app which doesn’t have search functionality)
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Apr 29, 2021 17:55
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Sandwolf posted:a little weird OA didn’t respond to any votes on him or anything, actually, really at all OA and GGN are both pretty inactive. I’d vote either of them. I still think merks play D1 was scummy. Hard push on dgk to drop it from out of nowhere, sitting on IA for a minute and then a weak vote The only real backing he gives to the Mr F vote is that he can’t comprehend that we were talking in mason chat and merk thinks only scum would rely on that (he can’t comprehend why Mag would think I’m town without any sort of “what did he say in mason chat that makes you feel that way”). Honestly if merk had just said “mag hasn’t said poo poo” and left it at that I’d probably look at his mag vote different. I don’t think merk was trying to convince people to vote, he said himself he wasn’t in a persuasive mood, so that extra defence about talking with me just feels like ad hoc justification for a scum vote.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:56
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merk posted:F is actually a good vote and more than a lurker elimination. His reads are 'yup' and 'nope' which I've addressed, and then there's this post: This being the post
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Apr 29, 2021 17:57
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If the GGN vote "mysteriously" falls apart, I would totally vote merk just out of pure curiosity for whether I was right the first time
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Apr 29, 2021 18:03
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Turns out all I needed to get the oa vote going was to drop it. This feels no different from how he was posting earlier so I don't get why the mood has shifted so much.
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Apr 29, 2021 19:02
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GGN's increasingly noticable absence does feel telling.
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Apr 29, 2021 19:04
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Sorry, not much in this post. Still catching up on p 19, and about to go back to work, but I'd vote ggn and still feel kind of wary about voodoo. Will put more down about this later.
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Voodoofly posted:OA and GGN are both pretty inactive. I’d vote either of them. You’re voting me because I’m not playing like usual. Your error is that I’m best “playing like usual” when I’m scum. Here, I’m trying a thing.
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