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So is Mortis worth reading? I need something new after Penitent
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Apr 26, 2021 08:39
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Prospero Burns was nothing at all what I expected but one hell of a ride, wow. It's been years since I read it but I remember being like, this is boring during during the first third of the book. Then at the end I was like holy poo poo!
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Apr 26, 2021 13:31
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cyrene is also actaea, the random cultist woman who betrayed lorgar in slaves to darkness and had Horus exile him. My own theory is that she did this because lorgar was right: Horus lacked the will to win the heresy, Lorgar might have done it, and she secretly does not want Chaos to win.
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Apr 26, 2021 14:28
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Miguel Prado posted:So is Mortis worth reading? I need something new after Penitent The one with the Navigators was v.deece, as were the Warhammer Crime books. The Shira Calpurnia trilogy was pretty good.
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Apr 27, 2021 12:43
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All the siege books are worth reading at least once imo.
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Apr 27, 2021 12:47
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D-Pad posted:Oh poo poo that's right! remember she became a perpetual in one of the ADB HH books and I think the cabal helped her in some way as well. Maybe they aren't as dead as Eldrad thinks. It makes sense she would become the ur-radical of the inquisition, in the hive city she is definitely using chaos but doesn't seem to be on chaos side I'd characterize it more as "third-way warp" rather than Chaos, really. It seems to be where they're going between Mortis, the Bequin series, and whatever the hell is in Alpharius (I get my copy by Friday!).
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Apr 27, 2021 13:44
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Pyrolocutus posted:I'd characterize it more as "third-way warp" rather than Chaos, really. It seems to be where they're going between Mortis, the Bequin series, and whatever the hell is in Alpharius (I get my copy by Friday!). There's nothing in Alpharius about special warp stuff or a third way
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Apr 27, 2021 16:12
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re third way chaos: The Horusian trilogy (duology?) prominently features folks "ascending" into warp capable beings, and its never played as a chaos thing, more like actual ascension to a higher plane kind of thing.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:55
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That Dreadnaught on Dreadnaught fight at the end of Soul Hunter. Jeeeesus Christ.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:08
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Skulk Hogan posted:That Dreadnaught on Dreadnaught fight at the end of Soul Hunter. Jeeeesus Christ. It's my favorite duel in all the books.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:15
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"Even in death, I will avenge myself." "You deserve the chance, Raguel." I'm not sure what my favorite duel is. Probably Abaddon and Sigismund in the second Black Legion book. "You will die as your weakling father did. Soulless. Honourless. Weeping. Ashamed."
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Apr 27, 2021 21:12
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Preorder of Alpharius finally arrived. Digging it so far. I love the smaller format hardcover, I wish they were all this way.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:30
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I always really enjoyed the duel between Xarl and Tolemion. Usually the actual violence in 40k books is just snoozeworthy, but ADB’s action scenes always hit harder for me somehow.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:47
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Lawdog69 posted:I always really enjoyed the duel between Xarl and Tolemion. Usually the actual violence in 40k books is just snoozeworthy, but ADB’s action scenes always hit harder for me somehow. Okay yeah, I forgot about that one. That one is the best. "I knew that warrior, and I know that he died as he lived. With courage, honor, and knowing no fear." "I know these warriors. They are First Claw, and I know that they'll die as they lived: trying to run away."
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Apr 28, 2021 20:05
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I love the attitude of First Claw: knowing how bad they suck, aggressively maintaining that everyone else sucks just as bad, but secretly afraid that it’s just them
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Apr 28, 2021 22:44
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I love the attitude of First Claw: knowing how bad they suck, aggressively maintaining that everyone else sucks just as bad, but secretly afraid that it’s just them I mean thats most factions in 40k besides nids and orks i guess.
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Apr 29, 2021 05:48
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Normally the space battles in these things are pretty dry too but Blackened vs Vengeful Spirit had me pretty on edge.
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Apr 29, 2021 06:02
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The four book Genevieve omnibus is a really good deal - four full novels, over 1000 pages of old world awesomeness. If you haven't read them highly recommended.
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Apr 29, 2021 07:43
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Working through Mortis and it's actually really cool seeing the original Inquisitors get together and try to do their job, with the context that in a thousand years this will all have gone horribly wrong.
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Apr 29, 2021 13:49
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The opening lines of Alpharius were just perfect. So perfect that I laughed quite a while upon reading them. I am Alpharius. This is a lie.
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Apr 29, 2021 14:09
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Mark of Faith is a good book but Since when is that true of inquisitors? lol
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Apr 29, 2021 15:14
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orphean posted:The four book Genevieve omnibus is a really good deal - four full novels, over 1000 pages of old world awesomeness. If you haven't read them highly recommended. I have a paperback Genevieve omnibus published in 2005, where Kim Newman is credited as "Jack Yeovil," and the contents are Drachenfels, Genevieve Undead, Beasts in Velvet, and Silver Nails. Is it the same content in this new omnibus, or has Newman written some new material?
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Apr 29, 2021 15:40
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Improbable Lobster posted:Mark of Faith is a good book but On aggregate.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:14
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It depends on the Inquisitor and their mentors as well, a rare few of them will start out genuinely heroic, we don't read about them as much, and a big theme in all the Inquisitor related books is that the job makes them take more drastic actions as they age, which gets hosed up whichever direction they take it. But I can see a young Inquisitor with a Puritan mentor starting out with that type of ethos. It would definitely fit in a session of Dark Heresy.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:31
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None of them will ever believe that they are not upholding that ideal. That's the point of the stories about Inquisitors going rogue and falling.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:40
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Arquinsiel posted:None of them will ever believe that they are not upholding that ideal. That's the point of the stories about Inquisitors going rogue and falling. I dunno, there are also Inquisitors that have contempt for the "weak" as that quote puts it, and only care about their duty to the Imperium in the abstract, not to any of the actual people within it. Which could be argued to be true of the Emperor as well.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:45
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Arquinsiel posted:None of them will ever believe that they are not upholding that ideal. That's the point of the stories about Inquisitors going rogue and falling. Further to the other point, some are in service to the Emperor, and regard civilians as lives to be spent. They get along with the Tau, because they’re motivated by the “greater good“. Emperor’s Gift actually does a good job of showing that, with the post-Armageddon Months of Shame.
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Apr 29, 2021 17:57
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A statement that broad and vague can validate all kinds of people and ideology, from Hitler and the complete opposite of Hitler*. *I dunno, Gilgamesh?
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Apr 29, 2021 19:00
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The Inquistion and all the secrecy and poo poo imo is based on the fact that a person is smart and people are dumb and if you just outright started explaining all the warp and chaos god poo poo 99% of the people would be cautious as gently caress but the 1% would be going "Nah Im way smarter then all of you" and then their head would explode and summon a warp rift that devours an entire planet.
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Apr 29, 2021 19:11
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Brendan Rodgers posted:I dunno, there are also Inquisitors that have contempt for the "weak" as that quote puts it, and only care about their duty to the Imperium in the abstract, not to any of the actual people within it. Which could be argued to be true of the Emperor as well.
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Apr 29, 2021 20:04
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"A person is smart, people are dumb panicky animals." -Inquisitor K
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Apr 29, 2021 21:52
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15000 years ago everybody knew the Men of Iron were the greatest threat to mankind. 5000 years ago everybody knew the Tau were an insignificant xenos nuisance, and 15 minutes ago you knew that humanity was alone on this planet. Imagine what the genestealers will know tomorrow.
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Apr 29, 2021 22:00
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Arcsquad12 posted:15000 years ago everybody knew the Men of Iron were the greatest threat to mankind. 5000 years ago everybody knew the Tau were an insignificant xenos nuisance, and 15 minutes ago you knew that humanity was alone on this planet. "huh, turns out the Hive Mind is just a biological engine dedicating to making Weird Dogs"
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Apr 29, 2021 23:01
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Regarding that link to the story of Ian Watson and Stanley Kubrick, https://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/ quote:What a magpie Stanley was, seizing on whatever I might mention. A book I owned about The Criminal Prosecution and Capital Punishment of Animals: he must borrow it. Papal Indulgences; and I was faxing him information. I had written a novel entitled Inquisitor set in the wacky far-future world of Games Workshop’s Warhammer 40,000; he wanted a pre-publication printout right away. “Who knows, Ian?” he mused. “Maybe this is my next movie?” I arranged for Games Workshop to send him samples of their games and artwork and obtained for him from fantasy artist Ian Miller a portfolio of drawings of monsters. Anything could be grist to the mill, now or at some future date. Jesus loving Christ. Never mind the Napoleon project, we could have had a Stanley Kubrick 40K movie written by Ian Watson ? Truly, this is the cursed timeline
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Apr 30, 2021 05:25
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Stanley Kubrick's SPACE MARINE
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Apr 30, 2021 07:57
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Stanley Kubrick's SPACE MARINE Sphincters Wide Shut.
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Apr 30, 2021 08:18
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Ninurta posted:Sphincters Wide Shut. The Fisting
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Apr 30, 2021 08:24
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The Fisting Full Ceramite Jacket
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Apr 30, 2021 09:40
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30,001: A Space Crusade An Augmetic Orange Dr. Exterminatus Alpharius Lelith
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Apr 30, 2021 09:48
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I was going to make a joke about A.I/Machine Spirit but that actually was written in part by Ian Watson 
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Apr 30, 2021 09:58
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