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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Powered Descent posted:

The Linux world is still experimenting with UI, at least a little. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment

Granted, I don't think any of those experiments have actually improved things much beyond the basic notions that crystallized with Win95. The Unity desktop and especially GNOME 3 are just annoying to use, in my opinion. Give me a nice simple interface like Cinnamon or MATE or Xfce, and I'll be happy.

Gnome 3 is nice in that you can do almost everything by pressing the win key and typing a few letters. Merging task switching, app launch and settings search sounds messy, but it does work fairly well. Windows is sort of similar in how win + typing can launch programs and search settings, of course.

Personal annoyance: people who click the start menu, click the search field, and then start typing.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

Gnome 3 is nice in that you can do almost everything by pressing the win key and typing a few letters. Merging task switching, app launch and settings search sounds messy, but it does work fairly well. Windows is sort of similar in how win + typing can launch programs and search settings, of course.

Personal annoyance: people who click the start menu, click the search field, and then start typing.

"Now press start, and type Foo"

"Type it where"

"Just do it"

DreadUnknown
Nov 4, 2020

Bird is the word.
SuSe had a KDE desktop in the mid 90s thats still my favorite os environment, it was real good.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Mid/late-90s was KDE 1.0, and yes it was quite nice. I still love that style of icons.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Humphreys posted:

"Now press start, and type Foo"

"Type it where"

"Just do it"

Ten seconds later: "Ok, now press start and type Bar"
*clicks start button, looks for a text field to click to type in*

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

Ten seconds later: "Ok, now press start and type Bar"
*clicks start button, looks for a text field to click to type in*

"BUT WHERE DID FOO GO!?!?"

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




RIGHT CLICK OR LEFT CLICK????

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Forward or Backward slash??

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Guy Axlerod posted:

Forward or Backward slash??

"Forward"

*types a backslash*

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Data Graham posted:

"Forward"

*types a backslash*

"But it slopes forward!"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I'll never forget a radio ad I heard in like 1996, when companies were just starting to put things online and website URLs were often long and weird and had ~usernames in them. But that didn't stop this one company from hiring a guy with a deep booming sonorous voice and a long, slow, dignified delivery to do their ad and to recite the URL, which went like this:

AITCH TEE, TEE PEE ...
SEMICOLON, BACKSLASH, BACKSLASH ...
DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU,

Just getting that far took up like 15 seconds and I wanted to drive off the road and into a tree to make it stop aahjsdghjhjldshfsd;

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Data Graham posted:

I'll never forget a radio ad I heard in like 1996, when companies were just starting to put things online and website URLs were often long and weird and had ~usernames in them. But that didn't stop this one company from hiring a guy with a deep booming sonorous voice and a long, slow, dignified delivery to do their ad and to recite the URL, which went like this:

AITCH TEE, TEE PEE ...
SEMICOLON, BACKSLASH, BACKSLASH ...
DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU,

Just getting that far took up like 15 seconds and I wanted to drive off the road and into a tree to make it stop aahjsdghjhjldshfsd;

In the early days of the dotcom boom a local car dealer had a radio advert that started and ended with someone yelling the word "INTERNET!" just to get people's attention.

"INTERNET!... come down to Butthole Ford. buy a new Fiesta from 6995, a new Focus from 7995, a new Mondeo from 8995. Butthole Ford... INTERNET!"

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Remember when morning news shows were just the hosts talking about what they had thought they had heard was the way to pronounce or what to call tech terms? "It's called an at symbol" "I heard it was called about"

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


I miss it when @ was first called here "kissanhäntä" or "a cat's tail" which quickly turned into "miukumauku" or simply "meow meow". Haven't heard anyone use that in a while.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Data Graham posted:

I'll never forget a radio ad I heard in like 1996, when companies were just starting to put things online and website URLs were often long and weird and had ~usernames in them. But that didn't stop this one company from hiring a guy with a deep booming sonorous voice and a long, slow, dignified delivery to do their ad and to recite the URL, which went like this:

AITCH TEE, TEE PEE ...
SEMICOLON, BACKSLASH, BACKSLASH ...
DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU DOUBLE YOU,

Just getting that far took up like 15 seconds and I wanted to drive off the road and into a tree to make it stop aahjsdghjhjldshfsd;

The URLs have gotten shorter but there are still ads that call a slash a backslash. "Visit company dot com backslash thingy for details." That's not a backslash how have ad companies not figured this out in 25 freaking years aahjsdghjhjldshfsd;

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

barbecue at the folks posted:

I miss it when @ was first called here "kissanhäntä" or "a cat's tail" which quickly turned into "miukumauku" or simply "meow meow". Haven't heard anyone use that in a while.

My dad still calls them that whenever he's spelling out his email address to someone. There's about a fifty to fifty chance on whether or not whoever he's talking to gets confused or not. That said, # will forever be "risuaita", dammit. Screw this "hashtag" bullshit. :colbert:

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

in early browser days you had to type http out IIRC

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Ruflux posted:

My dad still calls them that whenever he's spelling out his email address to someone. There's about a fifty to fifty chance on whether or not whoever he's talking to gets confused or not. That said, # will forever be "risuaita", dammit. Screw this "hashtag" bullshit. :colbert:

#butts < "Hashtag butts"
# < "Hash"
butts < "butts" which is a tag

To me it's the pound sign, or number sign.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Octothorpe

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Guy Axlerod posted:

#butts < "Hashtag butts"
# < "Hash"
butts < "butts" which is a tag

To me it's the pound sign, or number sign.

So you'd say "pound butts"?

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




My boss says backslash instead of slash all the loving time. It's a web design company

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I'm gonna start calling them up slashes and down slashes.

dirby
Sep 21, 2004


Helping goons with math

Trabant posted:

So you'd say "pound butts"?

I think Guy Axelrod would say "hashtag butts" and "when it's not part of a hashtag, the pound sign is often read 'hash'".

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LkUzVexLTU

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Guy Axlerod posted:

#butts < "Hashtag butts"
# < "Hash"
butts < "butts" which is a tag

To me it's the pound sign, or number sign.

:same:

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

Trabant posted:

So you'd say "pound butts"?

dirby posted:

I think Guy Axelrod would say "hashtag butts" and "when it's not part of a hashtag, the pound sign is often read 'hash'".

I mean yes, but also I'd use whatever is more fun.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Last Chance posted:

in early browser days you had to type http out IIRC

This is true because browsers were also capable of other protocols like FTP, Gopher, NNTP, stuff like that, so it wasn’t necessarily obvious that when you typed lycos.com, you wanted to make an http connection

Nowadays all that stuff is either gone, or relegated to specialized apps that handle it

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

This is true because browsers were also capable of other protocols like FTP, Gopher, NNTP, stuff like that, so it wasn’t necessarily obvious that when you typed lycos.com, you wanted to make an http connection

Nowadays all that stuff is either gone, or relegated to specialized apps that handle it
Truly the last gasp of the old Internet was whenever it was I last typed something other than [url]HTTP://[/url] in the address bar.

Actually it was whenever I last ordered something from my Telnet connection to CDConnection.com or last typed in my e-mail address as my password on an FTP site

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I remember once Newsweek had a sidebar of all the esoteric tech terms in use at the time on The Internet (you know you're dealing with a super cool hacker kid if his email has a .net domain), and it listed "anonymous FTP" as though it were some kind of nefarious black-hat way of sneaking onto a site and getting illicit downloads

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Data Graham posted:

I remember once Newsweek had a sidebar of all the esoteric tech terms in use at the time on The Internet

https://i.imgur.com/aFpfv9b.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/okz6Djd.mp4

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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:lmao: Still can't believe that "spreadsheets" lasted so long as a watchword for "computer nerds", even making it into Weird Al's pentiums song

It's like making fun of traveling salesmen for being really into cars

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
spreadsheets rule

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I've never played Eve Online so I don't know about them.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


barbecue at the folks posted:

I miss it when @ was first called here "kissanhäntä" or "a cat's tail" which quickly turned into "miukumauku" or simply "meow meow". Haven't heard anyone use that in a while.

I trolled one of my teachers back in the day that @ wasn't 'at' but stood for 'a-round'. Explained my email address like "Hey my name is humphreys which hangs around Dingus School in the Educational district in Australia" (humphreys@dingus.edu.au)

Gromit posted:

I've never played Eve Online so I don't know about them.

It's very good if you are a goon, so good news!

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

This is true because browsers were also capable of other protocols like FTP, Gopher, NNTP, stuff like that, so it wasn’t necessarily obvious that when you typed lycos.com, you wanted to make an http connection

Nowadays all that stuff is either gone, or relegated to specialized apps that handle it

I use Konqueror sometimes for FTP, but that's not a regular mainstream browser.

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
So I may have bought a bunch of token ring NICs... (so cheap!)

Should be fun to play around with at least.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

barbecue at the folks posted:

I miss it when @ was first called here "kissanhäntä" or "a cat's tail" which quickly turned into "miukumauku" or simply "meow meow". Haven't heard anyone use that in a while.

Greybeards called it atta which, linguistically, makes some sense.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Every teacher at my primary school thought it was "the mouse symbol" and during the period of breathless cyber optimism immediately following the brand new school network coming online I heard so many instances of "and you can email me now!!! My address is john smith Mouse schoolmame full stop co full stop UK"

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Trabant posted:

So you'd say "pound butts"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7h-yf3ut4k

vvv there's a bit in Devin Townsend's podcast series where he talks about getting to hang out with FF around when they were beginning to blow up and telling them "you guys are doing this music that's all black and blue, and I want to do the same kinda thing except it's black and red," and imo he delivered on that ambition 100%.

Pretty good has a new favorite as of 11:19 on Apr 30, 2021

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I used to LOVE Fear Factory and somehow missed the train to Strapping Young Lad

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