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buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Is there an enlisted thread or goon dedicated discord for it? Seems kinda cool. Wanna shoot fash with other nerdy socialists.

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Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

Saoshyant posted:

Yet Metro Exodus did exactly that, being $10 cheaper on that other store in comparison to Steam's original pricing. The justification was that due to the lower vendor fee, the publisher could make the game available cheaper. That never happened again, but the thing is, it could, it did once. And it didn't ever again because the 30% fee was never the reason why. Nor did Valve impose that Metro Exodus couldn't sell cheaper elsewhere. In fact, they allowed Metro Exodus to continue to promote content from the other store inside Steam for a few weeks until someone up there on Valve took a look and went, "uh, this is not a good idea"

The Metro deal was for lack of a better term fucky, they set the price on Epic after it had already been listed on Steam and when they relisted it was at parity. Valve choosing not to enforce policy on a game that voluntarily stopped sales shortly after is just a weird exception it doesn't change their policy. Plus we don't know what may or may not have happened internally at Steam or with regard to the relisting.

I agree Steam's policies aren't the only thing to blame that prices are fixed(why would a publisher ever take less money if they don't have to when they can just boost their margin??)

Edit: The rest is literally just lol Valve has a terrible corporate structure:shrug:

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Apr 30, 2021

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

Ambaire posted:

Also, any new storefront won't have the millions of Steam game reviews and discussions that help potential buyers learn more about the game they're eyeing.
According to Epic that's a feature. Turns out publishers don't want users reviewing things or discussing bugs.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


yeah it would be great for publishers if the only reviews people saw were those written by ign jokers

Arleneth
Apr 28, 2010

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

According to Epic that's a feature. Turns out publishers don't want users reviewing things or discussing bugs.

I was listening to a podcast and they raised the idea that the EGS does not have reviews or forums because those features would be a direct indication of community engagement, and wouldn't it be embarrassing if a game had 500 reviews on the EGS and hundreds of thousands on Steam.

OzFactor
Apr 16, 2001

Glare Seethe posted:

Thanks all for the Dark Souls tips. It turns out riposte is excellent, I'm definitely going to try leaning on this a bit more in the future. Silver knights are no longer an issue (unless I whiff on the parry) and in the process of practicing I farmed up enough souls to buy some twinkling titanite from the giant blacksmith and upgrade my Titanite Catch Pole to +4.

O&S initial trip report: owns. Ornstein flying at you right as you step in and before you can even see it happening is instantly hilarious. Smough seems far easier and I nearly had him a couple of times, but Ornstein has a tendency to ruin my plan of attack from off-screen at the last second. But this feels very doable, and it's immediately my favorite boss fight so far next to Bell Gargoyles I think. It's probably no coincidence that they both feature two enemies. I found Bell Gargoyles to have a really exciting dynamic, how it's clearly divided into three stages, the way it ramps up in the second, then the relief/tension once you only have one left, when you know you're close. It was a more varied and exciting fight than any other so far (though Capra Demon was tenser). I mean, Quelaag was fun but pretty routine overall. O&S gives me the same feel BG did, but seems harder.

This being one of the more famous bosses in the game means I've seen snippets of it over the years, but fortunately not enough to spoil any mechanics.

O&S do indeed own. I'll put this in spoilers just in case but you'll probably figure it out pretty quick: Although he looks big and tough, Ornstein actually has pretty low poise and is very easy to stagger. If you're using something heavy, like, oh, say, your Catch Pole there, you can probably stagger him through a full combo. And you'll only have to do it a couple times before he goes down.

Non-spoilered advice, and the only really truly good advice in a Dark Souls game: keep going, skeleton

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I've watched someone play through Death Stranding so I know the whole story, if I don't give a poo poo about any of that stuff and just want to do some package delivering because I like logistics games and the delivery stuff looks fun to me is this worth buying at this price point? Can I just skip cutscenes to get to the fun stuff?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

explosivo posted:

I've watched someone play through Death Stranding so I know the whole story, if I don't give a poo poo about any of that stuff and just want to do some package delivering because I like logistics games and the delivery stuff looks fun to me is this worth buying at this price point? Can I just skip cutscenes to get to the fun stuff?

The cutscenes drop off a LOT after the first few hours and then it's nonstop hiking simulator

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

StrixNebulosa posted:

The cutscenes drop off a LOT after the first few hours and then it's nonstop hiking simulator

Sold!
:tipshat:

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

Arleneth posted:

I was listening to a podcast and they raised the idea that the EGS does not have reviews or forums because those features would be a direct indication of community engagement, and wouldn't it be embarrassing if a game had 500 reviews on the EGS and hundreds of thousands on Steam.

It would be funny to us people watching from the sidelines but the average customer probably won't care too much. Some people are fine with blind-buying things and others only need to see a handful of reviews to make a decision.

Anyway, user reviews are currently in the same "Future Development" category on their public Trello as user profiles and the shopping cart... and the last one hasn't been touched in two years.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
:siren: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1465360/SnowRunner/ :siren:

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


they really dont have a shopping cart still?

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You

Awesome! posted:

they really dont have a shopping cart still?

Even getting the free poo poo is a chore when there's more than one.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

explosivo posted:

I've watched someone play through Death Stranding so I know the whole story, if I don't give a poo poo about any of that stuff and just want to do some package delivering because I like logistics games and the delivery stuff looks fun to me is this worth buying at this price point? Can I just skip cutscenes to get to the fun stuff?

Cutscenes are highly frontloaded and backloaded and can be skipped. there’s a few interruptions with very linear playable story parts but it’s an easy recommend with 80+ hours of hiking gameplay if you do optional stuff.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

StrixNebulosa posted:

The cutscenes drop off a LOT after the first few hours and then it's nonstop hiking simulator

And then they come back with a vengeance near the end.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

gently caress yes.

I have it on EGS already but I barely play it since I don’t look at my EGS library basically ever.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Awesome! posted:

they really dont have a shopping cart still?
nope, it was mentioned multiple times in the epic/apple suit as an example of how immature their replacement market is as well

re: trello they removed that public board, reinstated it, then removed it entirely. there's no public list of work they're doing nowadays to bring the store to early 2000s ecommerce standards

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan


I've gushed about it before so I won't again but if you've had a passing interest in the previous games in this series (Mudrunner, Spintires) then I highly recommend this game. They gameified it just enough so you're constantly working on checklists to finish building things or bridging gaps or any number of other tasks and it's real satisfying to zone out to a podcast or a YouTube vid while banging out some deliveries.

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

nope, it was mentioned multiple times in the epic/apple suit as an example of how immature their replacement market is as well

re: trello they removed that public board, reinstated it, then removed it entirely. there's no public list of work they're doing nowadays to bring the store to early 2000s ecommerce standards

It's right here? They haven't been keeping up on the roadmap as much (the last update is from like a week ago though) but they routinely list updates even if it's mostly "fixed bugs" level useless.

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Apr 30, 2021

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003

Awesome! posted:

they really dont have a shopping cart still?

How about gently caress you?????

https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1225534742679957504

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!



good lord lol

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
God drat. That is some 100% laughing from the top of my pile of money kind of :smug:

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
Tim Sweeney is just fighting the good fight and you are all dumb fuckers.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachel...sh=729efcde635e

quote:

Sweeney called Epic’s move to circumvent the fee by using its own payments system “essentially an act of civil disobedience” and compared it to “civil rights fights where there were actual laws on the books and the laws were wrong and people disobeyed them, and it was not wrong to disobey them because to go along with them would be collusion to maintain the status quo.”

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


oh my god i thought it was a parody account

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.

repiv posted:

Literally partitions? I thought they were disk images sitting on the regular filesystem

Volte posted:

Huh? :confused: It stores installed programs in C:\WindowsApps (or whatever drive you chose) but assigns ownership of the folder and files to a system account which is why you can't access them without manually taking ownership of the files. There's some weird poo poo around how the programs are launched which is why you can't add them to Steam, but the files themselves are just files.

Sorry for the late reply (I went to bed), and I guess I was a bit wrong on what I said, so disregard that. I just had remembered vaguely seeing a post about this topic a few days ago and well, I must not have been very lucid at the time.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Hub Cat posted:

It's right here? They haven't been keeping up on the roadmap as much (the last update is from like a week ago though) but they routinely list updates even if it's mostly "fixed bugs" level useless.
ah they had abandoned and recommitted to the concept over so many years i lost track

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Awesome, but given the bunch of bullshit DLC I won't be giving them money until they hit a really deep sale.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Glare Seethe posted:

Thanks all for the Dark Souls tips. It turns out riposte is excellent, I'm definitely going to try leaning on this a bit more in the future. Silver knights are no longer an issue (unless I whiff on the parry) and in the process of practicing I farmed up enough souls to buy some twinkling titanite from the giant blacksmith and upgrade my Titanite Catch Pole to +4.

O&S initial trip report: owns. Ornstein flying at you right as you step in and before you can even see it happening is instantly hilarious. Smough seems far easier and I nearly had him a couple of times, but Ornstein has a tendency to ruin my plan of attack from off-screen at the last second. But this feels very doable, and it's immediately my favorite boss fight so far next to Bell Gargoyles I think. It's probably no coincidence that they both feature two enemies. I found Bell Gargoyles to have a really exciting dynamic, how it's clearly divided into three stages, the way it ramps up in the second, then the relief/tension once you only have one left, when you know you're close. It was a more varied and exciting fight than any other so far (though Capra Demon was tenser). I mean, Quelaag was fun but pretty routine overall. O&S gives me the same feel BG did, but seems harder.

This being one of the more famous bosses in the game means I've seen snippets of it over the years, but fortunately not enough to spoil any mechanics.

Good luck!

It's an amazing fight, and the first one that really tests your spatial awareness. Neither boss is super hard on their own, so you just gotta manage distance and try to take advantage of the pillars.

I'll freely admit that I couldn't beat them without help on my first playthrough. Summoned Solaire and some other player (a naked guy called Kamikaze who just ran around :v:) and managed to get em down. Came back a couple years later and something just clicked. I took them down almost by accident, while watching to learn the timing/range on their attacks.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

oh my god i thought it was a parody account

It is impossible to parody a billionaire’s Twitter account.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

K8.0 posted:

Awesome, but given the bunch of bullshit DLC I won't be giving them money until they hit a really deep sale.

The DLC is all just extra maps and trucks, there's a fuckton of content in the base game so you shouldn't feel obligated to get the DLC straight away.

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

Hwurmp posted:

Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana

Yeah, this game was fantastic. All the Ys games are good but this one stands out, assuming the PC port is good. I think the "lost on a weird island" setting worked better than the setting of Ys IX.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Ys VIII on PC started out as an infamous mess but it's been fixed up.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Glare Seethe posted:

Thanks all for the Dark Souls tips. It turns out riposte is excellent, I'm definitely going to try leaning on this a bit more in the future. Silver knights are no longer an issue (unless I whiff on the parry) and in the process of practicing I farmed up enough souls to buy some twinkling titanite from the giant blacksmith and upgrade my Titanite Catch Pole to +4.

O&S initial trip report: owns. Ornstein flying at you right as you step in and before you can even see it happening is instantly hilarious. Smough seems far easier and I nearly had him a couple of times, but Ornstein has a tendency to ruin my plan of attack from off-screen at the last second. But this feels very doable, and it's immediately my favorite boss fight so far next to Bell Gargoyles I think. It's probably no coincidence that they both feature two enemies. I found Bell Gargoyles to have a really exciting dynamic, how it's clearly divided into three stages, the way it ramps up in the second, then the relief/tension once you only have one left, when you know you're close. It was a more varied and exciting fight than any other so far (though Capra Demon was tenser). I mean, Quelaag was fun but pretty routine overall. O&S gives me the same feel BG did, but seems harder.

This being one of the more famous bosses in the game means I've seen snippets of it over the years, but fortunately not enough to spoil any mechanics.

Pfft, Ornstein and Smough? Those losers! I showed them a thing or two :smug:

Spoiler: Actual picture of my triumph at the end of the fight


:hellyeah: I'm the greatest Dark Souls player in history.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

explosivo posted:

The DLC is all just extra maps and trucks, there's a fuckton of content in the base game so you shouldn't feel obligated to get the DLC straight away.

It's not about whether I want the DLC. I have a policy of not rewarding that kind of poo poo-rear end exploitative monetization scheme.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

K8.0 posted:

It's not about whether I want the DLC. I have a policy of not rewarding that kind of poo poo-rear end exploitative monetization scheme.

Additional optional content developed and released post launch for a small price? This game's been out for a year on EGS so it's not like they're just putting out day one DLC packs.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

K8.0 posted:

It's not about whether I want the DLC. I have a policy of not rewarding that kind of poo poo-rear end exploitative monetization scheme.

It's not like they're selling lootboxes. You can clearly see what you're getting, and the devs deserve compensation for additional content past the initial release.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Ambaire posted:

It's not like they're selling lootboxes. You can clearly see what you're getting, and the devs deserve compensation for additional content past the initial release.

Sure, and if you want to sell me 20% more content for no more than 20% of the original price, that's cool. I love when games are well supported. The problem is when you try to sell me <1% of the original content for 10% of the original price. Then you can go gently caress yourself. Monetizing skins is basically always complete horseshit. It's exploiting whales for a bit of cash to the detriment of everybody, and I believe we have a responsibility to punish developers/publishers who utilize those kind of models.

Sleve McDichael
Feb 11, 2019

~nice~

StrixNebulosa posted:

The cutscenes drop off a LOT after the first few hours and then it's nonstop biking simulator

ftfy :twisted:


Also late to the party, but parrying is the single most satisfying part of Dark Souls for me. The feeling of nailing the timing and the sound effects are just perfection

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


How is Valkyria Chronicles 4? I enjoyed the idea of the first one, but I found it excessively frustrating in practice because it felt like the only way to beat each mission was to play it once to bait out the event triggers and enemy placement, reload, blitz the objective, and restart if you haven't gotten it in the first few turns. Does that feeling persist in the later games?

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Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

VC4 is basically VC1 but better. I never felt the need to test event triggers like that but YMMV.

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