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Vavrek posted:Somebody said it here, I think, that it's either a weird uncomfortable coincidence or a stroke of absolute genius that the only (prominently depicted) society which practices pervasive, institutional slavery speaks with a heavy Southern drawl. Homeboy is from Charleston, South Carolina. I would wager anything that it was completely intentional. Especially Tuon.
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Apr 30, 2021 01:27
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Vavrek posted:Somebody said it here, I think, that it's either a weird uncomfortable coincidence or a stroke of absolute genius that the only (prominently depicted) society which practices pervasive, institutional slavery speaks with a heavy Southern drawl. *waves hand* Also for added fun, the most prominent slaveowner of the culture is a black woman.
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Apr 30, 2021 01:44
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The Illianers seem very Dutch to me, are they involved in slaving at all?
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Apr 30, 2021 01:46
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I always pictured Perrin as one of those guys who was "wider than he was tall". There's just something about being a blacksmith that made me think he was a shorty. All shoulders, no legs. I think it's also in my head, I read the series as a kid, and so Lan was always taller than the other characters, except maybe Rand, and when the characters grew up, I still pictured Lan as taller same as I picture my dad as taller even though he's shorter than me.
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Vavrek posted:
Rand's look is really the only one where appearance matters in the books, too. He has to look recognizably different than anyone who isn't Aiel, and that kind of forces all the other Aiel to look similar to him. Atlas Hugged posted:I always pictured Perrin as one of those guys who was "wider than he was tall". There's just something about being a blacksmith that made me think he was a shorty. All shoulders, no legs. I always saw Lan as slightly shorter than Rand, but Perrin was similar and Mat was a little shorter. I don't know why.
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I always thought Mat was significantly shorter than Perrin and Rand. Rand I always saw as like Basketball player tall, with Perrin more in the 6' range and built like a brick shithouse and then Mat as a pretty squirrelly 5'5 dude who's roughly average height with the general populace.
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Apr 30, 2021 05:54
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Zore posted:I always thought Mat was significantly shorter than Perrin and Rand. Rand I always saw as like Basketball player tall, with Perrin more in the 6' range and built like a brick shithouse and then Mat as a pretty squirrelly 5'5 dude who's roughly average height with the general populace. There are several female characters who remark that Mat is pretty well muscled, Obviously nothing like Perrin, but I never pictured Mat as "squirrelly".
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Apr 30, 2021 06:00
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he strikes me as like a lightweight fighter or something, lean and wiry as hell
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Apr 30, 2021 06:30
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<insert Brad Pitt from fight club picture here>
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Apr 30, 2021 15:32
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Torrannor posted:Since Shienarans/Lan always gave me a strong samurai vibe, he's actually pretty close to the Lan I pictured in my mind. Same here; maybe because of the cover art for EotW? It's weird because the Seanchan helmets and armor are definitely more samurai inspired
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Apr 30, 2021 23:25
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th3t00t posted:Lan: You know nothing Agreed, whyyyyyyy. Although Lan pretty much tells the boys that they know nothing, all the time. Just have him calling them sheepherders or something
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May 1, 2021 00:45
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He better be feared and admired by everyone he encounters, I swear to god.
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May 1, 2021 00:58
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DarkHorse posted:Same here; maybe because of the cover art for EotW? I always thought of the Seanchan helmets as kind of a throwback to the Age of Legends. They had the ter'an'greal that could talk over long distances, I just assumed that most of the soldiers then had them in their helmets for communication and they stuck out a bit so they worked better, and Hawkwing was close enough in time that they had lost the ability to do it, but decorated them so they looked similar.
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The soldiers at the end of the war of power wore helmets like that yeah. It was called out in the visions.
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seaborgium posted:I always thought of the Seanchan helmets as kind of a throwback to the Age of Legends. They had the ter'an'greal that could talk over long distances, I just assumed that most of the soldiers then had them in their helmets for communication and they stuck out a bit so they worked better, and Hawkwing was close enough in time that they had lost the ability to do it, but decorated them so they looked similar. Eh, Hawking was like more than 2000 years after the Breaking, and is far closer to Randland times than to the Breaking itself. I don't know if I would call it 'close enough' in time. I don't know if Mat ever mentions that the Seanchan armor/helmets are familiar or not from his memories. I always assumed their style was from the Seanchan continent.
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I'll be honest, I always thought of Seanchan as China and the armour as segmented like that and the drawl as the kind of drawl some Chinese English speakers hand and idea that it's a texan drawl is cracking me up, it's that really what was intended?
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May 1, 2021 14:35
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Cavelcade posted:I'll be honest, I always thought of Seanchan as China and the armour as segmented like that and the drawl as the kind of drawl some Chinese English speakers hand and idea that it's a texan drawl is cracking me up, it's that really what was intended? Yep. From an interview done by letter: https://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=116 quote:Paul Ward Also noteworthy for this answer to who killed Asmodean: quote:Paul Ward
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May 1, 2021 15:15
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That is absolutely the best suggestion. Bela is the protagonist, after all.
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May 1, 2021 15:16
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I will cry big wet tears if Bela is the horse Noal shows up on in the last book
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May 1, 2021 15:24
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th3t00t posted:The borderlands are in the North of Rand-Land, so my brain went to Northern Europe when the first guy we meet from there has piercing blue eyes, like how it went to Mediterranean for people from southern rand land. I imagined Saldeans as more of a swarthier, hawk nosed Russian/Eurasian ethnicity. Brains can be weird, can't they? The first time I read through WoT, I imagined Lan as some sort of ranger, just a dude with a sword and a fancy cloak. But when I grew up, I learned more and more about India, and Malkier, with my brain "correcting" my image every time, until nowadays if I think "Lan", my brain supplies me with some super-strong Indian hero, straight out of the Ramayana.
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Their single-edged cloth-wrapped long curved swords immediately put me in mind of samurai, so I pretty much always pictured him as this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCjsazHO0c0&t=155s
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May 1, 2021 21:55
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Uhhh yeah that works for me
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May 1, 2021 22:01
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Lan vs Demandred: https://youtu.be/UkkF6Zz67TE
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May 1, 2021 22:28
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silvergoose posted:Uhhh yeah that works for me  "Children shouldn't play with swords." is such a Lan line. fake edit: Comrade Blyatlov posted:Lan vs Demandred:
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May 1, 2021 23:01
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Libluini posted:Brains can be weird, can't they? The first time I read through WoT, I imagined Lan as some sort of ranger, just a dude with a sword and a fancy cloak. But when I grew up, I learned more and more about India, and Malkier, with my brain "correcting" my image every time, until nowadays if I think "Lan", my brain supplies me with some super-strong Indian hero, straight out of the Ramayana. And Couladin was Wes Studi. From Last of the Mohicans or Dances with Wolves.
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May 3, 2021 14:42
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Jordan's human world-building always seems to be "mash up 2 real cultures and change the race" except for where he doesn't even do that. Also for Lan, I alwasy pictured him as a brick shithouse too, based on the descriptions of how muscular and solid he was. Like Chris Evans Captain America sized maybe.
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During the Last Battle there was a line that went something like, "Rand looked through the door. The Dark One was right there." My immediate mental image when I read it was Melllvar the space gas from the Star Trek episode of Futurama coming through the door on the Enterprise set. Not only are they both creating imaginary worlds where they've achieved their goals, but he even does the CONSTANTLY SHOUTING VOICE. Anyway, now my fan casting for the Dark One is Melllvar, chromakey'd to black or dark gray.
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May 3, 2021 21:36
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"Of course. The things we gave you." honestly that line still makes me a little emotional. I really hope they get that far into the show.
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silvergoose posted:"Of course. The things we gave you." honestly that line still makes me a little emotional. I really hope they get that far into the show. That particular line hadn't stuck with me, so I didn't remember where it came from, and so I've now reread that (part of the) scene. There is a sheet of glass where the second greatest city in the world once stood. If they make it that far, if they are somehow able to do that whole sequence justice, it's going in some personal hall-of-fame of television. Barely related: There's a line I've been thinking of recently from one of the later books, but I'm not sure which nor exactly what the phrasing was, which makes it a bit tricky to search through my ebooks. Nynaeve, I think, is thinking about Rand's personality and how he's changed since leaving Emond's Field. Everybody's been wondering if he's going mad, if somehow Lews Therin is pushing through, and he's capable of such rage that she'd never seen back home. And she realizes one explanation: It's not that Rand has changed. It's just that nothing in Emond's Field ever made him angry. Shearing sheep, climbing cliffs, and playing pranks with his friends is a pretty placid life. Anybody remember which book it's in, or an exact turn of phrase I can use to search for it? edit: Found it! It's Egwene, not Nynaeve. The Gathering Storm, ch. 16: In the White Tower posted:Rand was a problem she hadn’t allowed herself to dwell on—she needed to deal with one problem at a time. But there was also much to be said for planning ahead. If she didn’t consider how to deal with the Dragon Reborn, she’d eventually find herself in as bad a situation as Elaida. Vavrek fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 8, 2021 |
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I was thinking about your post, trying to suss out when Nynaeve would have said that because I vaguely remembered a scene like that. She doesn't spend that much time with Rand after he became a ruler (which I'd say is when he claimed Callandor). She basically doesn't interact with him in Tear, their "reunion" in TAR during the Rahvin fight was too short for this scene to occur, and after that she doesn't meet him until he gets her to perform the Cleansing. So it's from Winter's Heart until basically The Gathering Storm, after which his anger issues... deflate. But a quick skimming of the books doesn't show anything like that. Then I thought that maybe Egwene could have such a scene with Rand, and come back to the thread to share my insight, only to find out you already figured it out  It's a great little scene, thanks for finding it.
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May 8, 2021 17:23
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I wonder if the ter'angreal dildo incident gets more than a passing mention in the show.
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Torrannor posted:I wonder if the ter'angreal dildo incident gets more than a passing mention in the show. Product placement for Dragon Dildos obviously. It's even on brand.
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May 14, 2021 18:30
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Torrannor posted:I wonder if the ter'angreal dildo incident gets more than a passing mention in the show. Wait, what?
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May 14, 2021 18:32
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Here we go, might as well explain Garfield while you’re at it too.
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Gwaihir posted:Wait, what? The Path of Daggers, Chapter 20 posted:Careful as Elayne was, though, her attempts to study them [ter'angreal from the Kin's stash] did not go so well. Spirit was the safest of the Five Powers to use in this - unless, of course, Spirit happened to be what triggered the thing! - yet at times she had to use other flows, as fine as she could weave. Sometimes her delicate probing did nothing, [...]
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lmao, I never connected those dots after that scene.
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May 14, 2021 19:29
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Wrist thick and a foot long?
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May 14, 2021 20:54
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Colonel Cool posted:Wrist thick and a foot long? Wait, yall didn't know that baddragon referred to rand?
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pardon for jumping into this thread but re-reading the books again for the first time in awhile and it's really fuckin' weird to me that Jordan has this thing that women are powerful and competent and important in his world but at the same time the men/women dynamics and everything are so weirdly 50's conservative gender roles or whatever you want to call it. It's kind of giving me whiplash I'm sure other people have broken it down far more thoroughly than me but all in all is weird to me
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