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jet sanchEz posted:oh poo poo, I was just about to start watching American Gods. I enjoyed the book. After season one, leave. They jettisoned a show runner and by most on-set accounts, only Orlando Jones really pulling poo poo together on site and rewriting/reworking enough of the scripts to earn him a writing credit got anything to the finish line. Combine this with losing Gillian Anderson and a lot of S1 cast while trying to cobble together any forward motion and the second season is a disaster. And then they lose a second showrunner and the new guy fires Orlando Jones for being too loud and black. Basically the quote given. Season 3 has absolutely nothing to it's name. It spins wheels the whole time and ends on a wet fart and cancelation.
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The United States posted:KINGS was an adaptation of the books of Samuel and Kings from the bible, hence the title, somewhat anachronistically transposing ancient Israel to the modern day. It was never about America, but the promos let people think that. Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords. Specifically because they were Sword model guns. That movie had a lot of fun with prop design.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords. I think Sword was the brand of gun in that adaptation, if I'm remembering right. There are a lot of "modern Shakespeare" adaptations that work. Ten Things I Hate About You, West Side Story, O, She's the Man all jump to mind, but also less well known ones like Maqbool and Scotland, PA, two very different takes on modern Macbeth. Outside of Shakespeare... The Kid Who Would Be King, maybe?
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords. 1995's Richard III, 1999's Titus, 2001's O and also Scotland, PA
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:1995's Richard III, 1999's Titus, 2001's O and also Scotland, PA The Julie Taymor Titus isn't exactly 'modern day' but more a ridiculous level of anachronism start to finish. It's pretty great. I wish I could find this really funny and informative post about Shakespeare's Rome, which tends to be formulaic to the point of parody.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords. Coriolanus fuckin’ owns a ton.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Julie Taymor Titus isn't exactly 'modern day' but more a ridiculous level of anachronism start to finish. It's pretty great. I mean it depicts a world that is way closer to the modern day than the 1600's. Also yes it's my favorite Shakespeare adaptation and one of my favorite movies. I tell people watch it on the largest screen you have and enable the "vivid" setting on your television
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My Own Private Idaho is based on Henry IV and V, updated for the 90s and New Queer Cinema.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Have there been many "straight-laced adaptation of an ancient/classical story but its modern day" style works that really panned out? There's Romeo + Juliet I guess, where the feuding families were replaced by business magnates/gangsters who speak like 16th century British people, and all the swords were replaced by guns but everyone still calls them swords. Chairman Capone posted:I think Sword was the brand of gun in that adaptation, if I'm remembering right. Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:1995's Richard III, 1999's Titus, 2001's O and also Scotland, PA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eont_yEGZs Ethan Hawke's L33T Hamlet is pretty bad overall but the modern day corporate intrigue setting has actually aged pretty well considering how many of darling turn of the century startups have been revealed to be rotting diseased hovels of sociopathic apathy and corruption akin to the nobility of old. And time has given the setting for the famous soliloquy itself the definitive answer - not to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Up-oGfiosE Also Romeo MUST Die is a similarly poor adaptation that loses the romance because (a) Jet Li can't pull it off and (b) Hollywood racism but it's still a pretty good excuse for solid martial arts action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyq0Y40iw SuperMechagodzilla posted:Coriolanus fuckin’ owns a ton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-XOO_LTlw Assepoester fucked around with this message at 07:16 on May 1, 2021 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Julie Taymor Titus isn't exactly 'modern day' but more a ridiculous level of anachronism start to finish. It's pretty great. Harry Lennix owns the gently caress out of that movie. He's so loving good.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Coriolanus fuckin’ owns a ton. I was going to reply with this but it rules.
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I can't believe it took me this long to realize Romeo must die was a Romeo and Juliet adaptation.  I remember renting it a bunch of times when I was younger because it was just a cool martial arts movie.But Romeo + Juliet was a lot better than I had actually anticipated when I got around to watch it last year or so. Realizing that the church choir was singing "When Doves Cry" at one part was a huge "Oh you sneaky motherfucker" moment.
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Yeah Romeo + Juliet owns, watching it made me finally realize that the source material isn't the greatest love story ever told like people think it is but is really a black comedy of stupid idiot teenagers doing stupid idiot teenager things
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Snowman_McK posted:Harry Lennix owns the gently caress out of that movie. He's so loving good. Yeah, in a movie where everyone's really giving it their best, he steals the show.
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I just love that the worst thing Romeo can think of is banishment like it’s the end of the world when now it’d be like “gently caress yeah let’s just go to Cancun” Assuming they aren’t already there idk where the gently caress they are
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Feldegast42 posted:Yeah Romeo + Juliet owns, watching it made me finally realize that the source material isn't the greatest love story ever told like people think it is but is really a black comedy of stupid idiot teenagers doing stupid idiot teenager things This is what makes it great imo. Romeo and Juliet is textbook, beat for beat, line for line, 4 act Shakespearean comedy in every way from how each act opens to how act 4 ends - and then when audiences thought it was over the story continues on for one more act where everything goes to poo poo.  It's easy to see why it made a big impact.
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I mean my response to this is always, yeah Romeo and Juliet are two stupid kids but the greater stupidity is in their families keeping this meaningless war going. Neo Rasa posted:This is what makes it great imo. Romeo and Juliet is textbook, beat for beat, line for line, 4 act Shakespearean comedy in every way from how each act opens to how act 4 ends - and then when audiences thought it was over the story continues on for one more act where everything goes to poo poo. Pretty sure all of Shakespeare's plays, comedies included, are published with five acts, though scene and act breaks are of course very after-the-fact. And it's not like you could surprise anyone, the prologue tells you what happens (and for tragedies a black tarp was hung on the open air portion of the Globe.)
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If you like Romeo and Juliet then watch Ram Leela from Bollywood with Deepika Padukone and Ranvir Singh
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Feldegast42 posted:Yeah Romeo + Juliet owns, watching it made me finally realize that the source material isn't the greatest love story ever told like people think it is but is really a black comedy of stupid idiot teenagers doing stupid idiot teenager things Romeo + Juliet is a crime because it could have gone full raunch jokes as the play would have been understood at the time, but doesn’t.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Coriolanus fuckin’ owns a ton. drat right.
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END ME SCOOB posted:And then they lose a second showrunner and the new guy fires Orlando Jones for being too loud and black. Basically the quote given. Season 3 has absolutely nothing to it's name. It spins wheels the whole time and ends on a wet fart and cancelation. Season 3 still has Ian McShane, and that counts for a lot IMO, but.... not much else
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sbaldrick posted:Romeo + Juliet is a crime because it could have gone full raunch jokes as the play would have been understood at the time, but doesn’t. I would say it's a crime because it truncated Mercutio's death monologue which was one of Shakespeare's best.
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Harold Perrineau is unbelievable in R+J. Complete scene stealer. I feel like he should have had a bigger career - he's still acting a lot so he's a very successful actor but it's mostly TV and smaller movies
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I hadn’t heard of Jones getting screwed over on Sleepy Hollow. I know Nicole didn’t care for how she got treated and that’s why she quit. I was already lagging behind on season 3 because it just wasn’t very good, and then found out she’d been killed off. So it labored on for another season that I didn’t watch because there was no point. There was a crossover between with Bones I think in the third season, which would have been several seasons in for Bones. Stark contrast between the motivation of the SH cast and the Bones cast despite the former starting to drag pretty bad. The latter were just going through the motions about as sloppily as can be.
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While not set in the modern day, Kurosawa’s Throne of Blood/Spider Web Castle is similarly a “Shakespeare in a different time and place” story that’s pretty baller.
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galagazombie posted:While not set in the modern day, Kurosawa’s Throne of Blood/Spider Web Castle is similarly a “Shakespeare in a different time and place” story that’s pretty baller. It's on HBO Max right now, highly recommend. Watched it with the house earlier as a very good "we all just got the shot and don't want to move" film
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FoneBone posted:Season 3 still has Ian McShane, and that counts for a lot IMO, but.... not much else I currently rewatch Game of Thrones with my girlfriend because we haven't seen the last two seasons and are completionists, and I got angry all over again at the episode where he shows up. The showrunners must have thought "We didn't waste Ciaran Hinds hard enough, but how can we top that?"
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galagazombie posted:While not set in the modern day, Kurosawa’s Throne of Blood/Spider Web Castle is similarly a “Shakespeare in a different time and place” story that’s pretty baller. That whole finale from the "moving forests" on is basically one of the most amazing ever put to film.
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Ran is apparently coincidentally a lot like King Lear, but when a friend brought up the resemblance Kurosawa decided to roll with it and added more similarities and some quotes.
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The MSJ posted:Wow, this is actually being filmed. If they're actually doing it sort of like the recent Jumanji movies, like everything is visualized as fantasy while the heroes still talk like the players, it could be a lot of fun.
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Or it will be like a literal interpretation of a D&D game where a group of 4 people with different jobs knock at the door of Elminster & Volo's office tower asking about a job ad they saw on a bulletin board at the tavern.
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davidspackage posted:If they're actually doing it sort of like the recent Jumanji movies, like everything is visualized as fantasy while the heroes still talk like the players, it could be a lot of fun. Hard disagree. That is in fact the Lamest Take. Though I do think it's exactly what they're doing. There's also a TV series in development that's a lower-stakes take on the world so that's the one I'll really have my eye on. Fantasy doesn't have to be all world-ending disasters, and Dungeons & Dragons is the perfect franchise for low-stakes fantasy adventures. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 15:05 on May 2, 2021 |
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It's a shame it's almost certainly going to be Tolkien style generic fantasy. I want them to get weird and go all Planeacape Torment. There's some wildly inventive stuff on D and D. Especially with the monsters
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feedmyleg posted:Hard disagree. That is in fact the Lamest Take. Though I do think it's exactly what they're doing. Two hours of heroes unable to leave a tavern.
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Thundercracker posted:It's a shame it's almost certainly going to be Tolkien style generic fantasy. I want them to get weird and go all Planeacape Torment. There's some wildly inventive stuff on D and D. Especially with the monsters Where's my Spelljammer movie you loving cowards!
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Grendels Dad posted:Two hours of heroes unable to leave a tavern. You've gotta admit it'd make a very cheap mid-season bottle episode.
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joylessdivision posted:Where's my Spelljammer movie you loving cowards! Seconded.
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