toplitzin posted:Did it happen?
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 20:30 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 08:55 |
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As a working professional, in a professional career, with a degree: 100% of the time that someone starts staking out boundaries around their professional status so that they can separate themselves from other "non-professionals," it's coming from a place of bruised vanity that makes them sound absolutely ridiculous.
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 20:40 |
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My pride isn't particularly bruised (lol I'm a lawyer what loving pride) but I also recognize that the definition of "profession" varies between colloquial use, academic and scientific use, historical use and current use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession By strict definition you could absolutely, for instance, claim that if it's illegal to practice in that profession's field without a license in such a way that it is sanctionable (like, if you try to represent someone in court in my country without the onerous task of aquiring a license as an attorney you are liable for a whole lot of compensation and may also be criminally liable), that constitutes a "profession" as traditonally recognized. Now, do I give a poo poo about this? Only if some idiot tried that poo poo because it would be hilarious to see them try and fail at it.
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 20:51 |
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employment and labor law also have definitions for professional
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:04 |
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Bad Munki posted:You did, you said it, you're everyone's lawyer now, mazel tov Huzzah! Now my mother will finally acknowledge me as a fully grown adult! Baruch Hashem!
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:14 |
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Nlra: (12) The term "professional employee" means-- (a) any employee engaged in work (i) predominantly intellectual and varied in character as opposed to routine mental, manual, mechanical, or physical work; (ii) involving the consistent exercise of discretion and judgment in its performance; (iii) of such a character that the output produced or the result accomplished cannot be standardized in relation to a given period of time; (iv) requiring knowledge of an advanced type in a field of science or learning customarily acquired by a prolonged course of specialized intellectual instruction and study in an institution of higher learning or a hospital, as distinguished from a general academic education or from an apprenticeship or from training in the performance of routine mental, manual, or physical processes; or (b) any employee, who (i) has completed the courses of specialized intellectual instruction and study described in clause (iv) of paragraph (a), and (ii) is performing related work under the supervision of a professional person to qualify himself to become a professional employee as defined in paragraph (a). ———- Sandwhich artist would not be a professional under that
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:15 |
In my state barbers require 1500 hours of professional training before they get licensed in contrast, magistrate judges require only 57 & 1/2 hours
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:26 |
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euphronius posted:A chef is not normally a professional in the USA I await your concession to my checkmate.
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:28 |
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joat mon posted:Yet they have white collars. they're also not my employee, so when I send back my burnt steak they can just ignore me
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 21:44 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:Do not loving start this. DO NOT. The lawyer discord has litigated the definition of a sandwich to death and back. gently caress you. Shut up. And? What was the consensus definition of sandwich?
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 23:16 |
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Outrail posted:And? What was the consensus definition of sandwich? It’s a kind of taco
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 23:28 |
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Phil Moscowitz posted:It’s a kind of taco Which is a kind of pita
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 23:48 |
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joat mon posted:Which is a kind of pita lawyers are a PITA
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 23:52 |
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homullus posted:lawyers are a PITA and not the good kind, like you want
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:01 |
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I have a question, for real my friend was in a divorce proceeding, and her lawyer failed to serve her husband so the default order of divorce was vacated. This is in Oregon. Does she have any recourse against the attorney for failure to perform? I mean probably hiring another attorney to sue the first attorney is a lost cause but I thought i'd ask. I'm not 100% sure yet whether the actual serving appears on the itemized bill yet, I asked her to get them together and send to me, but if it does that seems like fraud.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:28 |
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You can always sue people but the question you have to ask 1. How much will it cost to do so 2. What is your chance of winning 3. How much will you win if you win 4. What are your chances of enforcing the judgment Things usually break down at 1,2,3 and 4
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:32 |
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euphronius posted:You can always sue people but the question you have to ask Yeah, I was just thinking more like an ethics complaint than anything else. I also told her to stop paying but I think she's paid up, unfortunately.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:34 |
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Anyway I don’t know the law in that state but my hunch is it is not as clean as you understand it to be
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:37 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:By strict definition you could absolutely, for instance, claim that if it's illegal to practice in that profession's field without a license in such a way that it is sanctionable (like, if you try to represent someone in court in my country without the onerous task of aquiring a license as an attorney you are liable for a whole lot of compensation and may also be criminally liable), that constitutes a "profession" as traditonally recognized. By strict definition that constitutes a "cartel" as traditionally recognized. If the relevant sanctions are administered by a guy with a bone saw.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 00:58 |
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Jesus, I knew torta reform was a touchy subject, but come on, guys ...
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 01:30 |
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Prosser on Tortas
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 01:32 |
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Would folks prefer for me to cover USDA or FDA precedent on the sandwich matter first?
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 05:44 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Would folks prefer for me to cover USDA or FDA precedent on the sandwich matter first? Is there a NIST Standard Sandwich?
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 12:20 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Would folks prefer for me to cover USDA or FDA precedent on the sandwich matter first? Go have relations with another person first, then get back to me
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 15:31 |
blarzgh posted:Go have relations with another person first, then get back to me The beast with two backs, by itself, isn't a sandwich. You need something else in between.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 15:34 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The beast with two backs, by itself, isn't a sandwich. You need something else in between. I think the weiner makes it a sandwich.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 17:48 |
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Javid posted:Didn't Subway get sued because the foot long buns were only 11 inches? Who here hasn't also felt embarrassed at only being able to offer 11.5 inches?
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 18:55 |
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BonerGhost posted:I think the weiner makes it a sandwich. Depends entirely if the wieners come in buns
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 03:12 |
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euphronius posted:I have no idea what you mean by “semantically” Did you, at any point, watch, read, or listen to any US political news coverage during the period 1st December 2016 through 21st January 2021?
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 13:18 |
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thepopmonster posted:Did you, at any point, watch, read, or listen to any US political news coverage during the period 1st December 2016 through 21st January 2021? Not a lot I read a lot of tweets I guess
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 13:19 |
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Explains a lot really
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 16:23 |
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A Newspaper posted:A Brainerd, Minn., man who pleaded guilty to helping set fire to a Minneapolis police station during protests over the killing of George Floyd was sentenced Wednesday to four years in federal prison. Ignore all the politics and whatnot. What happens when your sentence involves a fine bigger than you'd make in multiple lifetimes? Bankruptcy? Some kind of negotiation? Garnishment of a percentage until you die?
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 23:02 |
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Captain von Trapp posted:Ignore all the politics and whatnot. What happens when your sentence involves a fine bigger than you'd make in multiple lifetimes? Bankruptcy? Some kind of negotiation? Garnishment of a percentage until you die? you die
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 23:25 |
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Captain von Trapp posted:Ignore all the politics and whatnot. What happens when your sentence involves a fine bigger than you'd make in multiple lifetimes? Bankruptcy? Some kind of negotiation? Garnishment of a percentage until you die? I understand financial restitution is a condition of probation, not a sentence where you have to pay the money back by the time your probation is over or you go to jail. Idk what happens if you can't pay a huge criminal judgment, but I don't think intentional torts are dischargeable in bankruptcy, so probably just it hangs over his head for 10 years (or whenever judgments expire in that state) and then they don't renew it and it expires, would be my guess. Neither the Court nor anyone else expects him to pay any of that.
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# ? May 1, 2021 11:38 |
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blarzgh posted:I understand financial restitution is a condition of probation, not a sentence where you have to pay the money back by the time your probation is over or you go to jail. Depending on the state (FL) he can't vote till he pays the 12 mil.
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# ? May 1, 2021 12:56 |
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So the owners of my apartment complex are apparently going around telling cat owners that the cats have to go. My brother's friend who lives in the same complex as me got a notice yesterday. I have 2 cats, and have yet to get such a notice. This is all my lease says about pets: I have been paying the pet fee each month, although the property manager (who I give the checks to) told me it was $25/mo flat, not per pet, so that is what I have been paying. If they come around trying to evict my cats, what should I do? I am not financially well off, I am actually in the process of paying off Ch13 Bankruptcy, so I can't afford to move, but I would like to keep my cats unless the only alternative is being evicted myself.
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# ? May 1, 2021 16:48 |
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Annath posted:So the owners of my apartment complex are apparently going around telling cat owners that the cats have to go. My brother's friend who lives in the same complex as me got a notice yesterday. Since we can't answer your specific question without a) Knowing your state and jurisdictions rules about eviction proceedings and contract actions, and b) without violating criminal law against practicing in your jurisdiction without a license, I would offer you this: If you live near an area of any remotely substantial population, there will be a legal aid organization that for low or no cost assists people with landlord/tenant issues. I recommend you Google them, or call your local county bar associations referral service for pro bono assistance.
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# ? May 1, 2021 18:14 |
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blarzgh posted:I understand financial restitution is a condition of probation, not a sentence where you have to pay the money back by the time your probation is over or you go to jail. In California at least court ordered criminal restitution never dies, like student loans, but there are some protection around ability to pay.
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# ? May 1, 2021 22:34 |
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blarzgh posted:If you live near an area of any remotely substantial population, there will be a legal aid organization that for low or no cost assists people with landlord/tenant issues. Not A Lawyer, but isn't this one of those situations that are a) pretty clearly stated in a legally-binding document, but b) even if you fight and win, you'll lose?
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# ? May 2, 2021 16:41 |
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null_pointer posted:Not A Lawyer, but isn't this one of those situations that are a) pretty clearly stated in a legally-binding document, but b) even if you fight and win, you'll lose? They should ask their lawyer who practices in their jurisdiction and who has the opportunity to review the entire contract exactly what their situation is. Without all the relevant information it's pointless (and potentially harmful) to speculate.
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