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friendlyfire posted:They're probably deciding whose head to serve.
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TMMadman posted:So I got bored with my Portugal New World game and then played a bit as Kongo but wasn't really feeling it. Then I thought about playing Bengal or Vijayanagar but wasn't really feeling it either. There's a million gold provinces in the Mexico region and super-devving a gold province is OP early game, so thats probably what you want to do.
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I bought the expansion sight unseen based mostly on Paradox's prior reputation and the 3500+ hours put into the game; However, I will be waiting until they iron out these bugs before playing. That being said, going forward, I'm going to be waiting before purchasing any new content. That comfortable feeling I had with Paradox is gone now. Hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting Blizzard-Activision/Bioware vibes from this (steady decline in quality). Seems like when a game company goes public, it's a steady decline afterwards. E: Reread and I think this came off a little too much doom and gloom. I still enjoy the game and anticipate enjoying for years to come! Normal? fucked around with this message at 03:09 on May 1, 2021 |
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May 1, 2021 03:05
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Normal? posted:I bought the expansion sight unseen based mostly on Paradox's prior reputation and the 3500+ hours put into the game; However, I will be waiting until they iron out these bugs before playing. I think my point of permanent caution was back when I bought Stellaris on release and felt completely robbed of my $40. Then some of the HOI4 expansions were making the game less enjoyable for me (MTG’s navy rework, LR’s espionage). I dunno where I was going with this post, but  and I hope they stop with the poopoo releases.
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Normal? posted:I bought the expansion sight unseen based mostly on Paradox's prior reputation and the 3500+ hours put into the game; However, I will be waiting until they iron out these bugs before playing. I don't see a steady decline tbh, just a bad release. The latest ck2 and ck3 stuff is some of their best yet, imperator started kinda flaky but got better, same with stellaris. Subscriptions aren't necessarily awful but I have to admit the in-game ads for them sure are.
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When exactly had EA or Blizzard released anything as broken? Even ME Andromeda from BioWare gets a bad rep but it's fine, if average. Those companies had shady monetization practicies. They also switched from making genre defining larger than life games to just fine ok games. Seems Paradox still has some of that small indie company goodwill if people compare it favourably to big old familiar predatory companies.
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ilitarist posted:When exactly had EA or Blizzard released anything as broken? Even ME Andromeda from BioWare gets a bad rep but it's fine, if average. Those companies had shady monetization practicies. They also switched from making genre defining larger than life games to just fine ok games. Some WoW patches certainly approached Leviathan in brokenness, not to mention the total unwillingness to get enough server capacity to not cause long queues on big servers each time a new expansion is released. But in general, you're right that EA and Blizz usually don't have such buggy releases, and Paradox has a deserved reputation for exactly that, unfortunately.
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ilitarist posted:When exactly had EA or Blizzard released anything as broken? Even ME Andromeda from BioWare gets a bad rep but it's fine, if average. Those companies had shady monetization practicies. They also switched from making genre defining larger than life games to just fine ok games. Andromeda has been patched. On release it was a travesty, though. Maybe not Leviathan-levels, but still a real mess.
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The Warcraft 3 remaster release was pretty bad, though that was because of intentional design decisions rather than the release being unfinished
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Andromeda has been patched. On release it was a travesty, though. Maybe not Leviathan-levels, but still a real mess. I don't remember that. And I was one of the people who bought the game on day 1, based on the demo that I quite liked. Not to say that Andromeda was a good game, it's deeply flawed. But apart from the facial animations, I don't remember anything getting emergency hotfixes. And even if the facial animations were really terrible, they were not game breaking or savegame erasing bugs.
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cool av posted:I don't see a steady decline tbh, just a bad release. The latest ck2 and ck3 stuff is some of their best yet, imperator started kinda flaky but got better, same with stellaris. Yeah; Stellaris was pretty mediocre at launch but right now is a great game. It might have the only espionage system in the 4X genre that isn't completely dogshit? Not a high bar I guess
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah; Stellaris was pretty mediocre at launch but right now is a great game. It might have the only espionage system in the 4X genre that isn't completely dogshit? Not a high bar I guess When the bar is literally "didn't make the game worse even if you don't engage with the system", yes, the bar isn't very high. Actually interacting with the system makes it feel more like a kludged together mod than anything else.
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May 1, 2021 11:41
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Meh, got the dreaded savefile-corrupting bug. Which it turns out even can corrupt fresh copies of savefiles from entirely different games, just from looking at them in the load game interface. After restarting the game and copying the saves from a different folder. I guess you can't savescum if the game destroys all your savefiles... Not dealing with this poo poo, rolling back to 1.30.6 until whenever.
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Groke posted:Meh, got the dreaded savefile-corrupting bug. Which it turns out even can corrupt fresh copies of savefiles from entirely different games, just from looking at them in the load game interface. After restarting the game and copying the saves from a different folder. Well, that level of busted-ness is kinda impressive.
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Torrannor posted:Well, that level of busted-ness is kinda impressive. Yeah, I'm not sure how they even managed to get it to do that.
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Is anyone else getting random crashes? It’s done it twice for me now but has never happened before the update.
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Sri.Theo posted:Is anyone else getting random crashes? It’s done it twice for me now but has never happened before the update.
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Cynic Jester posted:When the bar is literally "didn't make the game worse even if you don't engage with the system", yes, the bar isn't very high. Actually interacting with the system makes it feel more like a kludged together mod than anything else. stellaris's mods are often better than the official features so this isn't a very damning indictment
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Nah they just called it a week early then went to the beach or something. Please don’t be toxic.
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is the game still broken if you haven’t bought the dlc? as in never ending disasters / unplayable saves?
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Jel Shaker posted:is the game still broken if you haven’t bought the dlc? as in never ending disasters / unplayable saves? yes but not if you also revert to the pre-dlc version
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BBJoey posted:Please don’t be toxic.  Jel Shaker posted:is the game still broken if you haven’t bought the dlc? as in never ending disasters / unplayable saves? Last I heard, the diplomacy screen just straight up didn't work without the DLC. That may have been fixed in the most recent patch, but I'd be surprised if all the remaining problems are DLC-only (especially the save corruption one).
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I'm still playing 1.19, no issues here  Also, that moment as Russia when, after spending a hundred years conquering southwards, you liberate Tsargrad from the Turks, spend a couple years converting it back to Orthodox, and then hand it off to your new vassal Byzantium... and tomorrow is Orthodox Easter. 
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BBJoey posted:Please don’t be toxic.
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Relevant: https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/ quote:"Often we do face a debate culture that is not enjoyable to take part in, where it is taken as a given that the devs are either lazy or incompetent and where everything we do is viewed through that lens," content designer Archangel85 wrote. "Not only is it incredibly demoralizing to spend months of your life creating something, only to see the people you made it for tear it to shreds, it is also a debate that gives no one anything."
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then ignore un-constructive criticism and do more QA testing? like i dont read the paradox forums but surely the devs are capable of skimming posts and scrolling past the balkan nationalists and nazis
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I think there was a group of people that were paid to do that, but paradox fired em all
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https://career.paradoxplaza.com/jobs/1160331-qa-director
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I agree that personally accosting developers and being angry at them is always a lovely thing to do. Butquote:Not only is it incredibly demoralizing to spend months of your life creating something, only to see the people you made it for tear it to shreds, it is also a debate that gives no one anything. As someone who is also in a position where this happens, this kind of talk always makes me weary. There are of course healthy and unhealthy ways of being critical (and the paradox forums strike me as particularly unhealthy), but to complain publicly about the very notion of negative receptions gets a  from me.
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Lum_ posted:Relevant: It's hardly surprising, Archangel makes those same posts on this very forum.
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If you spend months of your life creating something and it turns out to be Leviathan, then it's pretty drat fair to tear it to shreds.
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yikes! posted:I think there was a group of people that were paid to do that, but paradox fired em all Weird that the people whose job was to make sure things are working were actually important.
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Paradox let go some of their QA for the third-party games they publish. Paradox Game Studios retained their internal QA, though.
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CK3 was so great at release that I thought this kind of stuff was in the rear-view mirror for Paradox 
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I love Leviathan and all the tremendous content it has given us.
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I hope that this disaster and all this terrible PR shocks paradox into taking the same amount of care with all of their future releases that they did with CK3. It blows my mind that the same publisher put out both CK3 and Leviathan in a single 12 month period. Just like the Cyberpunk 2077 mess, I just don't get how whoever was in charge of the decision making looked at what they had ready to go and said to themselves "yes this right here I am proud of this".
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The most ridiculous part was the game was at least playable until their hotfix. You can choose whether or not to interact with / abuse the unbalanced stuff but there's no way to get around your saves getting bricked
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I see journalists still have warm feelings about PDX corporate attitude still, with articles about player toxicity instead of the lowest point in quality for the company.
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ilitarist posted:I see journalists still have warm feelings about PDX corporate attitude still, with articles about player toxicity instead of the lowest point in quality for the company. well it's certainly not the players who are paying them e: I've been browsing the paradox forums a bit since the patch and most people seem fairly reasonable. There's a toxic minority but like, it's the internet, of course there is. Case in point, this thread which blames paradox management rushing the expansion out rather than the devs who were just doing their jobs and must have known it was nowhere near ready for release. As of time of writing it has 65 "likes", 50 "agrees" and 3 "loves". Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 2, 2021 |
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