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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Jim Bob definitely seems like a classic narcissist family annihilator type who would just drug the whole clan and burn them all alive after barricading himself in the house with them if he felt that his power over them were threatened. Opposing therapy is a classic control strategy, as is controlling access to family members like siblings or children. I think if the cameras werent present/dim bulb didn’t relish the attention so much, he would 100% have murdered his whole family by now, no question about it. Big family annihilator vibes for sure.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:I think if the cameras werent present/dim bulb didn’t relish the attention so much, he would 100% have murdered his whole family by now, no question about it. Big family annihilator vibes for sure. The Jonestown route, where even if your commune is failing financially and all your crimes are about to be exposed, you can convince everyone that the group can still make a glorious sacrifice for the cause and be remembered forever. Armed guards will be posted to help along the reluctant.
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May 2, 2021 21:24
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Hazo posted:The rumor is that pre-Jim Bob, Michelle was actually kind of a party chick who slept around quite a bit. Then at some point she went all in on Jim Bob's crazy and became an insane fundie. I don't remember the details. On the one hand, I'm happy for her because this means she has experienced fun at least once in her life. On the other hand, this makes her even more of a hypocritical piece of poo poo so gently caress her. I mean, I assume all evangelicals are hypocritical pieces of poo poo, but this family is just nauseating.
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May 2, 2021 21:27
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PhazonLink posted:is this true among even the other quiverfull families that arent related to them? From several pages ago, but there aren’t that many of their particular brand of crazy in the area. There are a decent amount of religious families with 6+ kids in the area but most of them say “but we aren’t Mormon or like the Duggars” when they tell you how many kids they have. There are no real connections for them to use anymore in the area. They knew a handful of cops and judges back in the day but everyone treats them as radioactive these days. Someone also asked about the Huckabee’s in relation to supporting the Duggars and Sarah’s chance of actually becoming governor. Mike and Sarah are part of the far right media machine these days and don’t have a ton of influence in the state anymore. Mike was a pretty lovely governor that even the R’s disliked. Arkansas has traditionally been “Blue Dog Democrat” or slightly more center leaning Red. Yes, there are a lot of batshit white supremacists in North East/North Central AR and a lot of funadamentalists in Southwest/Central AR (Tom Cotton land). However, there are also a lot of minorities and more liberal people in West/Northwest and East AR. The overall effect is that really extreme candidates only work out in limited parts of the state. The governor will likely not be huckabee-sanders but the current AG, Leslie Rutledge. Rutledge is an absolutely piece of poo poo that is likely worse than Huckabee-Sanders in every way. She is a mostly competent fascist that is anti-minority, gay, transgender, etc. She has pushed an truly abominable agenda as AG and has a lot of support from the Trump base. Rutledge also knows who to stab in the back when to get what she wants. Either way, I don’t think there’s anyone that would actually come out now and try to support the Duggars. It’s a terrible move politically that will win no support. Josh is completely hosed.
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teen witch posted:place your bets: Duggars Vs. Phelps If it's a deathmatch we all win
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Sucrose posted:The Jonestown route, where even if your commune is failing financially and all your crimes are about to be exposed, you can convince everyone that the group can still make a glorious sacrifice for the cause and be remembered forever. Armed guards will be posted to help along the reluctant. I actually initially was interested in these types of cults because my parents (my dad more so, but my mom somewhat) lost a lot of friends in Jonestown.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:I actually initially was interested in these types of cults because my parents (my dad more so, but my mom somewhat) lost a lot of friends in Jonestown. I wound up reading a whole bunch about it because the whole thing was so, so much worse than popular culture would have you think. Nightmarish cult, and the massacre was a mass murder as much as it was a mass suicide, if not more so. Politically they were the polar opposite of the Duggars, though, so I'd be getting off topic by going more into it. But I brought up Jonestown because I've heard it referred to as being psychologically very similar to a family annihilation event, perpetrated by the cult leader when his options ran out. I don't think Jim Bob Duggar is actually gonna murder his family though.
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Back in 2005 or so when SA was still trying to be "edgy" someone linked to the hours-long audio recording and transcript of Jonestown and it was one of the most chilling things I've ever heard.
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Sucrose posted:I wound up reading a whole bunch about it because the whole thing was so, so much worse than popular culture would have you think. Nightmarish cult, and the massacre was a mass murder as much as it was a mass suicide, if not more so. Politically they were the polar opposite of the Duggars, though, so I'd be getting off topic by going more into it. Yeah, Jonestown is extra sad because he targeted multi-racial and multi-cultural churches and people interested in social justice. It was people wanting to create a society free from discrimination and the terrors of Jim Crow mere years prior.
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Hazo posted:Back in 2005 or so when SA was still trying to be "edgy" someone linked to the hours-long audio recording and transcript of Jonestown and it was one of the most chilling things I've ever heard. Last Podcast on the Left did a massive 7-part series on Jonestown, complete with audio recordings, and it is incredibly unsettling.
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May 2, 2021 22:53
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Hazo posted:Back in 2005 or so when SA was still trying to be "edgy" someone linked to the hours-long audio recording and transcript of Jonestown and it was one of the most chilling things I've ever heard. Yeah I listened to part of that until the screaming started, then I turned it right the gently caress off. Someone had uploaded a bunch of the recordings to Youtube and I couldn't help myself. And though nowhere near as bad, there were some other hosed up recordings, like one of Jim Jones having a young woman beaten and then giggling hysterically like a hyena while she was being beaten. Apparently her crime was that she was a guard and had let it slip that the guards' guns weren't loaded and Jones was paranoid that someone could have escaped. There was another where Jones was terrorizing some children and laughing while they were crying, and the whole thing gave me mixed feelings because I felt both pity and absolute rage towards the adults in the group. Why didn't they just kill that fucker? How could anyone just stand there and let stuff like that happen? But at the same time they were trapped in a tiny little totalitarian hell-society with dozens of armed guards where the adults were being abused as well, they didn't necessarily have many options and were brainwashed into a sort of learned helplessness, I think. Cults loving suck.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Yeah, Jonestown is extra sad because he targeted multi-racial and multi-cultural churches and people interested in social justice. It was people wanting to create a society free from discrimination and the terrors of Jim Crow mere years prior. Jim Jones' early career was actually kinda cool, he used evangelical tricks like faith healing and hot reading to attract people to his church that openly embraced racial and economic equality. The kind of huckster for good that we all imagine has to exist somewhere. Then... well, we all know what happened as time went on. It's unbelievably sad.
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May 2, 2021 23:44
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not a bot posted:How the hell is he 33? Hyper conservatives and Christofascists seem to age at double the rate of normal people. It's probably a result of being a walking cauldron of hatred, repression, and sexual deviance.
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1388565143425007616 Poor kids.
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Lawlicaust posted:From several pages ago, but there aren’t that many of their particular brand of crazy in the area. There are a decent amount of religious families with 6+ kids in the area but most of them say “but we aren’t Mormon or like the Duggars” when they tell you how many kids they have. Yeah it's pretty much like this. Every so often someone sees them somewhere and it's kindve like a Bigfoot sighting. A reminder of " oh right they live near here.". But for the most part even the religious family's still tend to give them a wide berth. Whatever connections they had peaked in like 07. For the most part they're largely ignored. Ole Josh sure dun hosed up on this one. I hope he gets the full 20 years. Was talking to an old timer at work about them and he mentioned apparently he's driven by their place before and it's located right next to a landfill. Must've been great growing up in a house of 20 odd religious nutjobs whose hubris has already invaded ever aspect of your life. Only to want to go outside and play just to be greeted by the smell of freshly churned garbage. 
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wizardofloneliness posted:On the one hand, I'm happy for her because this means she has experienced fun at least once in her life. On the other hand, this makes her even more of a hypocritical piece of poo poo so gently caress her. I mean, I assume all evangelicals are hypocritical pieces of poo poo, but this family is just nauseating. The trick that fundies use is that any horrible thing they do is okay because they can just beg the lord's forgiveness. So it's an unending cycle of lovely antisocial behavior, exploitation, and violation of other people. But then they pray to Jesus and it's all good.
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Because it's oh so much fun to imagine the sex lives of religious fundamentalist strangers from off of TV, (strangers whose son is a paedophile even.) Everybody here is assuming that the Duggars have a weird and wild deviant sex life, (after waiting the requisite days after giving birth of course.) Using the assumption that repression and self hate turns into sexual deviancy. I have the opposite idea. Coz given the weird way they ostentatiously and performatively brag about their sex life, and the weird coy way they have to describe it, it all reeks of overcompensating to look 'cool'. I am not denying that they have a LOT of sex, but I imagine it is Jim Bob being a two pump Charlie and doing it missionary whilst Michelle does her godly duty and pretends to be interested. And they do that because Jim Bob, (he who is forbidden to even look at other women's ankles), is so unimaginative, and sheltered that that is what he believes sex is, and Michelle, as a lowly woman, has no say in it at all. This also makes sense when you look at when Josh, (the paedo), was busted on Ashley Madison abusing some ex-porn star, she said that the sex was brutish and simple, and when she complained, Josh, (the paedo and rapist that he is), went "but thats what sex is.". (I could be misremembering a lot of these details.)
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Grondoth posted:Jim Jones' early career was actually kinda cool, he used evangelical tricks like faith healing and hot reading to attract people to his church that openly embraced racial and economic equality. The kind of huckster for good that we all imagine has to exist somewhere. 
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I didn't say HE was cool, good people don't do those things and it's clear that it was all about power for him. But tricking people into joining your church of good stuff is a story that, in this country of religious snake-oil salesmen, you'd think had to exist somewhere out there. It'd be a fun story if it didn't rapidly turn into what it did.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Because it's oh so much fun to imagine the sex lives of religious fundamentalist strangers from off of TV, (strangers whose son is a paedophile even.) When I say "deviant" I'm not talking about stuff that consenting parties enjoy that might seem bizarre to other people, I'm talking about sex pests. A fundamentalist cult like mentality that puts the responsibility of sexual assault on the victims is not at all healthy. When you drill it into people's heads that masturbating is filthy and evil but also diddling your sister is the same level of offense what kind of mentality do you think that creates? It has absolutely nothing to do with what kind of sex Bomb Jib has with his wife or what Josh does with sex workers.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A big theme with right-wingers is the idea that men can't and shouldn't be expected to have any self-control. This should explain a lot. This poo poo is general in the US throughout and you'd be surprised at how many non chuds hop on the boys will be boys wagon
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the plathville family is a very good watch and the dynamic is quite different. they aren't as much quiverfull as, as someone else posted, led by a batshit mom who accidentally killed one of her kids and blew up her world out of guilt. whats good though is that every kid (other than nutjob daughter) who is over 16 totally disowned the family. theres also the sister wife family where the kids all seem surprisingly well adjusted, although a bunch of them are covid truthers.
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Owlspiracy posted:the plathville family is a very good watch and the dynamic is quite different. they aren't as much quiverfull as, as someone else posted, led by a batshit mom who accidentally killed one of her kids and blew up her world out of guilt. whats good though is that every kid (other than nutjob daughter) who is over 16 totally disowned the family. The Sister Wife kids seem normalish and they all say they wouldn’t do that polygamy poo poo, but seeing their moms all be miserable and having the dumbest fights and a dad who clearly doesn’t listen to anyone probably helps with that They all seem really protective of a lifestyle that they don’t want to follow themselves and makes their moms miserable
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Grondoth posted:I didn't say HE was cool, good people don't do those things and it's clear that it was all about power for him. But tricking people into joining your church of good stuff is a story that, in this country of religious snake-oil salesmen, you'd think had to exist somewhere out there. It'd be a fun story if it didn't rapidly turn into what it did. Fred Phelps was a celebrated civil rights lawyer with a wall full of awards and recognitions from the NAACP and similar organizations before all the rest of it happened
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving MFW when someone drops a racial slur
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WhyteRyce posted:The Sister Wife kids seem normalish and they all say they wouldn’t do that polygamy poo poo, but seeing their moms all be miserable and having the dumbest fights and a dad who clearly doesn’t listen to anyone probably helps with that they're all really critical of the lifestyle and unlike the duggar kids they seem to have functioning relationships and are able to support themselves. also at this point sister wives show is essentially fiction - the dad lives with just one of the wives (robyn) and ignores the others. the other thing with polygamists is they don't actually like polygamy or want to share their husband - they believe they have no choice to be polygamists because their faith commands it. but the contrast between all the other tlc family shows because none of them seem like abhorrent people or insane republicans. (interestingly a big reason they moved from vegas is because of concerns about gun violence but wern't allowed to say so on the air for fear of alienating their viewers)
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Hazo posted:The rumor is that pre-Jim Bob, Michelle was actually kind of a party chick who slept around quite a bit. Then at some point she went all in on Jim Bob's crazy and became an insane fundie. I don't remember the details. i just meant that she didnt grow up in the cult? she was a normal person. was jim bob first or second gen quiverfall? Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving  Owlspiracy posted:the plathville family is a very good watch and the dynamic is quite different. they aren't as much quiverfull as, as someone else posted, led by a batshit mom who accidentally killed one of her kids and blew up her world out of guilt. whats good though is that every kid (other than nutjob daughter) who is over 16 totally disowned the family.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:loving You never forget your first goatse thread.
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Flannelette posted:You never forget your first goatse thread. . loving liveleak and all those horror shows loving destroyed my brain.
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White Power Signing and Social Media. A How To.
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I shall call this masterpiece, "Johnny's First Goatse"
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Grondoth posted:I didn't say HE was cool, good people don't do those things and it's clear that it was all about power for him. But tricking people into joining your church of good stuff is a story that, in this country of religious snake-oil salesmen, you'd think had to exist somewhere out there. It'd be a fun story if it didn't rapidly turn into what it did. Good people definitely don't get people to give them money or join their church by tricking them into thinking they can cure cancer, which was Jim Jones's specialty. That's some sociopathy right from the start. Then for his smarter/better educated followers who could see through the magic tricks, he'd privately convince them that the deception was worthwhile because at least he was bringing religious people to socialism. So it was a sort of duel-layer scam. olylifter posted:Fred Phelps was a celebrated civil rights lawyer with a wall full of awards and recognitions from the NAACP and similar organizations before all the rest of it happened God, how many Westboro Baptists are even left since Fred died? Didn't a couple of them leave recently? There was some serious child-beating in that cult too, to make the children obedient and obey Fred's every word. There's always child-beating in these cults.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i just meant that she didnt grow up in the cult? she was a normal person. was jim bob first or second gen quiverfall? Someone on the Fundamentalists Wiki linked the article about the child's death: https://www.timesenterprise.com/news/local_news/child-s-death-ruled-accidental/article_4dce4549-bd0f-5283-90c9-f6bd7f15b5b0.html. She accidentally ran over him while moving a vehicle while doing yard work. That'd definitely mess a person up. The article did say she called for medical assistance. There are some branches of fundies who don't even do that. Religious snake-handling people won't call doctors after they're bitten.
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so it still exists but basically after fred died, the weird ex hippie named Steve Drain who is basically an outsider, took over and formed a council of the remaining men. fred apperently had the dementia and also started softening with old age and that pissed drain and co off and he got excomunicated. drain is even worse then fred because he is a conversio basicaly.
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