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Ragequit posted:NieR: Automata - Just purchased, haven't started yet Forgot to tell you: the opening sequence/level for Automata is long (like 45 mins?), you can't save during it, and if you die you go back to the start because  There is no shame in starting the game on easy then swapping to normal once you have access to saving (the game will yell at you about this, can't miss it).
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Edmond Dantes posted:Forgot to tell you: the opening sequence/level for Automata is long (like 45 mins?), you can't save during it, and if you die you go back to the start because Also, after the tutorial, you will pretty much always have save points or checkpoints nearby, so this long of fuckyounosave stretch is only for the tutorial. Great game, high recommend, but you gotta know this dick move
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May 3, 2021 13:31
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It's just to teach you that the game doesn't have autosave.
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The beginning of the game is also incredibly easy and a long tutorial so you don't really have anything to worry about
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May 3, 2021 13:46
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I got juggled for like 75 percent of my health bar by the boss at the end and had to redo it all. Completely unexpected after how the rest of the intro was.
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May 3, 2021 13:47
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Ugly In The Morning posted:It’s interesting because I see it as a game that’s both extremely excellent and extremely overrated at the same time. That sums up my exact feelings on Disco Elysium and I say that as someone who positively loves it.
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May 3, 2021 14:03
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I got juggled for like 75 percent of my health bar by the boss at the end and had to redo it all. Completely unexpected after how the rest of the intro was. You can spam the dodge button.
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May 3, 2021 14:34
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ZearothK posted:That sums up my exact feelings on Disco Elysium and I say that as someone who positively loves it. wtf does overrated mean? "oh no, people like it more than they should"
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May 3, 2021 14:35
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lunar detritus posted:wtf does overrated mean? "oh no, people like it more than they should" In gaming circles if people really like a game they tend to proselytize it like it's the second coming, even if it's just Extremely Good. Every once and a while a game comes along - Undertale, Disco Elysium, probably others that I forget, Witcher 3 maybe? - that people push so hard and act like you're insane for not playing it that it's kind of off-putting. I think that's what most people have been saying about DE here. It's a very, very good game merely by having actual writing instead of video game writing but people definitely went berserk for it for a while there.
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May 3, 2021 14:39
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Disco Elysium has very poor gunfeel imho
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May 3, 2021 14:47
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Hwurmp posted:Disco Elysium has very poor gunfeel imho i tried to shoot Cunoesse but the dice said no
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Orv posted:In gaming circles if people really like a game they tend to proselytize it like it's the second coming, even if it's just Extremely Good. Every once and a while a game comes along - Undertale, Disco Elysium, probably others that I forget, Witcher 3 maybe? - that people push so hard and act like you're insane for not playing it that it's kind of off-putting. I think that's what most people have been saying about DE here. It's a very, very good game merely by having actual writing instead of video game writing but people definitely went berserk for it for a while there. Other examples include Nier, Hades, FO:NV, Prey, etc etc... It's a meaningless and undefinable label that you can slap on anything to be Cool and Smart
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May 3, 2021 14:49
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Hwurmp posted:Disco Elysium has very poor gunfeel imho In this essay I will
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Opinions are subjective, obviously, of course overrated is going to be term that varies. All it means is “this did not live up to what I saw other people saying about it”. Though it’s a bit odd, since there’s games people love that I can’t stand that I don’t think are overrated. Bloodborne comes to mind. I don’t like it at all but I can understand why people love it. It helps that it didn’t have a contingent of people saying other games hosed up by not being exactly like it; unlike the “RPGs shouldn’t have combat, look at disco elysium” people.
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Orv posted:In gaming circles if people really like a game they tend to proselytize it like it's the second coming, even if it's just Extremely Good. Every once and a while a game comes along - Undertale, Disco Elysium, probably others that I forget, Witcher 3 maybe? - that people push so hard and act like you're insane for not playing it that it's kind of off-putting. I think that's what most people have been saying about DE here. It's a very, very good game merely by having actual writing instead of video game writing but people definitely went berserk for it for a while there.
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May 3, 2021 14:58
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Disco Elysium is like a point and click adventure game right
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May 3, 2021 15:00
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zoux posted:Disco Elysium is like a point and click adventure game right Honestly, it's more like Planescape:Torment if you took out all the combat.
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Broken Cog posted:Planescape:Torment if you took out all the combat. And replaced it with CSPAM.
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it's like Dark Souls but without the dark and the souls
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Ugly In The Morning posted:And replaced it with CSPAM.
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I dropped and refunded Disco Elysium after I noted how "lol-random spork" type the humour in the game was. I was basically done after I accidentally flew through the room to hit wheelchair bound woman after failing skill check.
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May 3, 2021 15:08
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Broken Cog posted:Kinda, if you replace all the puzzles with more dialogue. So it's a visual novel?
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zoux posted:So it's a visual novel?
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Point-and-click adventure RPG is probably the most accurate descriptor of Disco Elysium. The Planescape influence is in the tone and presentation, but the gameplay shares basically nothing in common. "Planescape without the combat" doesn't really describe anything in particular since Planescape is a D&D game and pretty much the entire structure of the game revolves around combat.zoux posted:So it's a visual novel?
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May 3, 2021 15:13
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Kin posted:I've just finished the main game of Lego Marvel 2 and i dunno if I'm in the minority or not but it just feels like these games have so much bloat now. Double-check, I haven't played LM2 yet but I know the last one I did (Batman 3) still allowed for entering cheats in the options menu to unlock some of the hidden blocks if you just wanna kick-start that process. I would usually toss on a multiplier and that let me snowball my way into the rest of the goals.
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May 3, 2021 15:15
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The Gripper posted:But we need those zealots to balance out the nerds who put 30 minutes into a game and declare it "the worst game ever". Banemaster posted:I dropped and refunded Disco Elysium after I noted how "lol-random spork" type the humour in the game was. I was basically done after I accidentally flew through the room to hit wheelchair bound woman after failing skill check. 
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zoux posted:So it's a visual novel? It's a visual novel that masquerades as old-school adventure game that masquerades as old-school RPG.
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Lt. Lizard posted:It's a visual novel that masquerades as old-school adventure game that masquerades as old-school RPG. Eh, if it was OSRPG you'd die from falling checks more often than not, failing forward is a somewhat contemporary design.
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Banemaster posted:I dropped and refunded Disco Elysium after I noted how "lol-random spork" type the humour in the game was. I was basically done after I accidentally flew through the room to hit wheelchair bound woman after failing skill check. Hahaha, my first try resulted in this as well. Kind of underlined the fact that I was a hungover pantsless dude causing a public scene. In fact most of my interactions in that game could be summarized as public disturbance.
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Disco Elysium is a game where you play a man desperately trying to do his job despite his brain being a whirling nightmare. So you know, Tuesday.
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ZearothK posted:Eh, if it was OSRPG you'd die from falling checks more often than not. That actually does happen if you're not careful and are lacking healing items.
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Check failed, massively owned by chav child
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I haven't finished Disco Elysium but it's great so far. I haven't felt like I was dealing with characters this rich in a while. If I goof up and make Kim sigh in embarrassment, I feel bad. The constant internal monologue skill checks are great too. It's goony in a way that it's a game about being inside your own head, but not goony in that it's a lot about other people's feelings. Also it's great for my wife because this new edition is almost 100% voice acted so she can follow along casually without having me read everything. She also loves Cuno.
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END ME SCOOB posted:Double-check, I haven't played LM2 yet but I know the last one I did (Batman 3) still allowed for entering cheats in the options menu to unlock some of the hidden blocks if you just wanna kick-start that process. I would usually toss on a multiplier and that let me snowball my way into the rest of the goals. I didn't find DC villains had any real bloat that I noticed, I was having a blast the whole time. Custom characters helps cuz you can just slap the abilities you need on your custom guys if you haven't unlocked someone - that said, you unlock everyone really fast, or at least everyone you need.
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For me DE was great because it actually evoked feelings which pretty much no video game does, which goes a long way. If there were a dozen other games like it then a lot of the praise and shine might wear off over time like the high praise of Bioshock Infinite or whatever, but there isn't much else like it.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:And replaced it with CSPAM. Not really, you play as a cop and we all know in cspam....  Oh, carry on then
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May 3, 2021 16:40
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Leal posted:Not really, you play as a cop and we all know in cspam.... Lol
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Opinions are subjective, obviously, of course overrated is going to be term that varies. All it means is “this did not live up to what I saw other people saying about it”. Though it’s a bit odd, since there’s games people love that I can’t stand that I don’t think are overrated. Bloodborne comes to mind. I don’t like it at all but I can understand why people love it. It helps that it didn’t have a contingent of people saying other games hosed up by not being exactly like it; unlike the “RPGs shouldn’t have combat, look at disco elysium” people. There are still people who insist that any action rpg that doesn't play like Dark Souls is badly designed.
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Banemaster posted:I dropped and refunded Disco Elysium after I noted how "lol-random spork" type the humour in the game was. I was basically done after I accidentally flew through the room to hit wheelchair bound woman after failing skill check. So you chose to run away from paying rent and damages and was annoyed when the obvious failure consequence took place? Volte posted:Point-and-click adventure RPG is probably the most accurate descriptor of Disco Elysium. The Planescape influence is in the tone and presentation, but the gameplay shares basically nothing in common. "Planescape without the combat" doesn't really describe anything in particular since Planescape is a D&D game and pretty much the entire structure of the game revolves around combat. People don’t agree that Ace Attorney is a VN. Traditionalists would reserve that for titles like House in Fata Morgana. Even some of the most beloved titles in the genre technically are not - the When They Cry series (Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia) as they lack choices and are called Kinetic Novels. I think one of them actually has exactly one choice though. I’ve also heard them called Sound Novels? Point is genre is ill defined at the best of times. Disco Elysium is a CRPG Point and Click Visual Novel Doom Clone Third Person Shooter Walking Simulator Psychological Horror Turn Based Strategy Singleplayer MOBA Roguelike.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:So you chose to run away from paying rent and damages and was annoyed when the obvious failure consequence took place? It's even a great example of how you "fail-forward" in the game - sure it's embarrassing and a bit silly, but the lady you hit is barely injured and far more worried about you than herself, and the owner who is a dick is worried that someone got hurt in his shop and it will make him look bad so he knocks off a good chunk of the bill you owe him. Sure Kim thinks you're even more of a weirdo but that's hardly even a negative.
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