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unnoticed posted:Biden is getting rid of HFCs. That's something: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/climate/EPA-HFCs-hydrofluorocarbons.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage That’s because of the 2020 law, American Innovation and Manufacturing Act, so yet another example of Biden claiming credit for the status quo.
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hmm seems bad https://academictimes.com/greenhouse-gases-are-slowly-shrinking-the-middle-atmosphere/
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Pobrecito posted:hmm seems bad Atmospheres, by Trojan: Extra-Thin, For No One's Pleasure BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 23:39 on May 3, 2021 |
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May 3, 2021 23:16
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Tony Tone posted:I just dont think food and water will ever run out across the developed world in a small enough time frame that would theoretically facilitate a revolution in whichever sense of that word you prefer. Yeah that Arab Spring triggered itself. Ok then.
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May 3, 2021 23:33
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this is not a climate change thread thing but lol at going so hard at the end of history that you live in a year where the capitol is stormed and minorities arm themselves in record numbers and your take is "yes this is a very stable regime that will persist indefinitely in the midst of water wars and multi-breadbasket failures"
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May 3, 2021 23:49
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Tony Tone posted:I just dont think food and water will ever run out across the developed world in a small enough time frame that would theoretically facilitate a revolution in whichever sense of that word you prefer. My hometown in california ran out of water a few years ago during the drought. They literally had to truck water in. All across the southwest aquifers are getting pumped dry even as the population grows and precipitation falls. You will absolutely live to see swathes of the first world run out out fresh water, with food not far behind. If you mean that there won't be a single drought/famine that will affect the entire developed world at once, ok, but there is no way that portions of the developed world won't face massive internal displacement and subsequent political unrest.
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May 3, 2021 23:50
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unnoticed posted:Biden is getting rid of HFCs. That's something: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/climate/EPA-HFCs-hydrofluorocarbons.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage quote:The regulation would begin to take effect in 2022 and would gradually reduce the production and importation of hydrofluorocarbons in the United States by 85 percent over the following 15 years. About 15 percent of HFCs would still be permitted because they have critical uses for which alternatives do not yet exist.
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Mayor Dave posted:My hometown in california ran out of water a few years ago during the drought. They literally had to truck water in. All across the southwest aquifers are getting pumped dry even as the population grows and precipitation falls. You will absolutely live to see swathes of the first world run out out fresh water, with food not far behind. If you mean that there won't be a single drought/famine that will affect the entire developed world at once, ok, but there is no way that portions of the developed world won't face massive internal displacement and subsequent political unrest. im sorry but the almonds, lettuce, pistachios, and alfalfa take precedent
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Wakko posted:this is not a climate change thread thing but lol at going so hard at the end of history that you live in a year where the capitol is stormed yeah, i agree, 1954 was a fairly unstable year in us politics! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting
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Tony Tone posted:Its kind of odd to me that in the current cyber age we live in there hasnt even been like a collective of black hats or something that just wants to wreck gov/corp poo poo ala Mr. Robot or whatever. You dont really need to go murder rich people in minecraft when we are surrounded by all this tech, tracking services and the internet of things etc. Im sure serious damage could be done all from the comfort of your home. Nobody cares. That's it.
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May 4, 2021 00:18
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Wakko posted:this is not a climate change thread thing but lol at going so hard at the end of history that you live in a year where the capitol is stormed and minorities arm themselves in record numbers and your take is "yes this is a very stable regime that will persist indefinitely in the midst of water wars and multi-breadbasket failures" they were so close to overtaking they government and/or killing anyone. so close.
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I mean, really, we all saw poo poo like 9/11 and horrific bouts of unimaginable violence across Southwest Asia, South America, and Africa. Syria didn’t just spring out of the ether into a horrific conflict, it started out of one of the worst droughts on record in the region. There’s no rule saying that poo poo can’t happen across Europe and North America either. Not saying it’ll be an instant 1917 style revolt followed by a short civil war and dictatorship of the proletariat, but people aren’t just gonna lay down and sit at home and die en masse like it’s The Happening.
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https://www.csis.org/programs/strategic-technologies-program/significant-cyber-incidentsquote:April 2021. A hacking group compromised the social media accounts of Polish officials and used them to disseminate narratives critical of NATO. German authorities have reported that the same group has also attempted to compromise members of the Bundestag and state parliament.
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May 4, 2021 00:47
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for the record there's an ongoing famine in yemen and one brewing up now in madagascar
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enough people still have faith that the powers that be can fix things after disaster strikes. that if the power is out for a week, it won't be out forever. that if water is rationed all summer, you'll still be able to take a bath come december. when that starts to unravel it will spread like wildfire (possibly like the wildfire that started the disaster in the first place)
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May 4, 2021 00:51
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MightyBigMinus posted:for the record there's an ongoing famine in yemen and one brewing up now in madagascar is the second one related at all to their insane president? I think he was the one that was touting miracle cures for covid
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May 4, 2021 00:53
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/30/famine-looms-in-southern-madagascar-uns-food-agency-says
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actionjackson posted:is the second one related at all to their insane president? I think he was the one that was touting miracle cures for covid He’s probably not helping, but the drought they’ve been suffering for the past couple years is probably more at fault.
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Isn't there another famine too - lebanon?
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Trabisnikof posted:enough people still have faith that the powers that be can fix things after disaster strikes. that if the power is out for a week, it won't be out forever. that if water is rationed all summer, you'll still be able to take a bath come december. That's an interesting thought. Here in Australia we had two years of crippling drought followed by apocalyptic bushfires... followed by a year of beautiful rainy weather. And those of us with the luxury to do so have set about comprehensively forgetting the droughts and fires and what it's like to wake up every morning to a sky empty of everything but ash. This exceptionally rainy year is the norm, thankyou very much, and we shan't be stressing about those fires again. If the Year of Covid had come during the drought rather than the La Nina, I think everyone would have gone dramatically insane.
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silicone thrills posted:Isn't there another famine too - lebanon? Yes, but they also blew up their grain silo last year.
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Trabisnikof posted:yeah, i agree, 1954 was a fairly unstable year in us politics! ya there has been unrest in the past and since the material conditions of the postwar period haven't changed at all this is a good predictor of the future
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its snarky but im honestly thrilled to see people learning anything about history
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Wakko posted:its snarky but im honestly thrilled to see people learning anything about history Regardless of what the future brings, we’ll at least have (oral) history!
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Lostconfused posted:Yes, but they also blew up their grain silo last year. 'They' being some colonial power or Israel yea.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/corpus-christi-exxon-sabic-water-supply-problem-1163453/ “But a key remaining avenue to challenge the Exxon SABIC plant is how it will get its water. The facility will need a whopping 20 million gallons of fresh water a day to operate. Corpus Christi’s current reservoirs at Lake Corpus Christi, Lake Texana, Choke Canyon Reservoir, and the Colorado River are almost pushed to the breaking point as it is, and the region has been in stage 1 drought since December.” Cracker ping plant. They are just finishing building one of these cracker plants in western PA right on the river.
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Famines are self-correcting crises!  Eventually the available food is sufficient for the population left alive. 
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actionjackson posted:is the second one related at all to their insane president? I think he was the one that was touting miracle cures for covid Yeah. Swallow uv light to cure covid lol wtf was that???
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rex rabidorum vires posted:'They' being some colonial power or Israel yea. Lol didn't their port have several tons of slowly decaying ammonium nitrate sitting in a warehouse or something like that? Did Israel sneak in an entire shipload of fertilizer and then let it rot into a bomb over the course of several years?
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The Oldest Man posted:Lol didn't their port have several tons of slowly decaying ammonium nitrate sitting in a warehouse or something like that? Did Israel sneak in an entire shipload of fertilizer and then let it rot into a bomb over the course of several years? nah they impounded it from a ship that wouldnt pay its port fees and forgot to haul it for disposal detonation in the desert because thats expensive until a maintenance dude hit it with a welding torch
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the decaying, explosive fertilizer was being stored next to a whole bunch of impounded fireworks. during work to repair the doors to the fertilizer or fireworks warehouse there was a stray spark. the doors were being repaired because of concerns about theft of the stored material
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May 4, 2021 02:33
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bedpan posted:the doors were being repaired because of concerns about theft of the stored material Lmao.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:'They' being some colonial power or Israel yea.
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iceland eruption been a little more active the past couple days, the views are nice and its pretty relaxing to just watch hot rocks boil out of the earth for a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxPCZ76helM
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Charlatan Eschaton posted:iceland eruption been a little more active the past couple days, the views are nice and its pretty relaxing to just watch hot rocks boil out of the earth for a while wow, the colonial powers will stop at nothing to destroy Iceland
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Charlatan Eschaton posted:iceland eruption been a little more active the past couple days, the views are nice and its pretty relaxing to just watch hot rocks boil out of the earth for a while remember that one year where the volcano spit out enough ash to shut down all air travel between America and Europe, too bad that didn't happen last February
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bedpan posted:the decaying, explosive fertilizer was being stored next to a whole bunch of impounded fireworks. There was something like 13 lawsuits trying to have the explosives moved due to the risk. They were all dismissed by the same judge.
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Chamale posted:There was something like 13 lawsuits trying to have the explosives moved due to the risk. They were all dismissed by the same judge. Edit: There's no way the judge was acting on his own.
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