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AlternateNu posted:Is there an agreed upon level where buying the Mastery is actually worth 3,400 gems? At a rate of 1 pack = 200 gems, 500 gold = 100gems, and draft token =1500 gems, the break even point is level 27 assuming you'd want all the packs you get from the mastery pass.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:Thank you for the quality post! I guess for me what happens is I watch streamers execute something really effectively and attempt to replicate and then fail. I figure this is a product of a mythic level streamer versus me, a random player. What seems like a run of amazing luck or serendipity for pros is more the fact that people playing at a high level have practiced navigating lines of play with any given deck against any given known field of opponents over and over to the extent that it becomes reflex to look at the board, analyze the conditions, and think ahead X turns such that they can set themselves up to maximize the opportunity if they draw the right card. For the rest of us we just call this "playing to your outs" but it goes way beyond that. Combo, aggro, midrange, traditional control, etc all have different approaches for making the most of each turn and thinking through optimal plays in the context of what the opponent is playing and the choices they make. Even a deck like Burn that seems fairly simple on the surface requires a lot of contextual decision making, especially if you're up against someone who knows the deck. You should practice and track stats but when you're watching streams try to focus on figuring out what information is available to each player in any given turn and how that influences their decision making. Some streamers will call attention to this sort of thing but even with those that don't you can learn a lot by breaking things down into a systems model or a process and working through why some plays are more efficient than others in either securing the win outright or creating the conditions to come back from behind.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:
Also, untapped has an overlay that does it for you.
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I personally think from playing many competitive games over the years that tracking your winrate and counting all your percentages like a calorie counter isn’t nearly as useful as setting intentional practice and focusing on making fewer mistakes during actual gameplay. You’re not gonna get better at the game by making it more stressful and like homework, you’re gonna get better by finding a deck that really speaks to you and that you are enthusiastic about.
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# ? May 4, 2021 02:24 |
I don't know crap about the Historic metagame, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Personally, I think bouncing between decks is a mistake given what you've said. This is strictly an opinion, so feel free to tell me to shove it, but there's something to be said for mastering one deck before trying to branch out and play multiple decks at once. Or, maybe do one Control deck and master that, and make it one of the meta ones too. For star tracking, I highly recommend MTGA Assistant. It'll break things down by deck, so you'll be able to see win rates per deck overall and win rates against opposing mana colors, which should serve as a good proxy for what deck they're playing, even if you might occasionally run into something playing the same colors that's a different archetype. Here's an example of how it helped me. I am a new player (so again take all my advice with a grain of salt), so I play a Cycling deck. I thought I was doing bad, but after like 50 games, turned out my win rate 58% overall. However, my win rate was like 30% against Monored. I looked up Cycling players and skipped to Monored matches. Turned out they were blowing poo poo up with Irencrag Pyromancer, a card I don't have because I built my deck before the current Monored ascendancy. I ultimately decided to just kinda roll with it and not spend the WCs on something leaving Standard soon. You might find something similar you can either adjust or just say "eh, I'm happier spending WCs on something else" One thing that I would be really careful of when watching Streamers and building their decks is how representative the overall stream is of their actual Win/Loss rate. If you're just catching them on Twitch at random, that's one thing, but watching a YouTube video later of the same they might have just cut it down to the times the deck actually popped off. The only streamer I watch who does Historic is Day[9] so I can't really speak to whether a particular streamer is cutting losses that might cover a bad mana base, a jankier than it looks combo, changes to the deck list mid-video, etc.
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Bust Rodd posted:I personally think from playing many competitive games over the years that tracking your winrate and counting all your percentages like a calorie counter isn’t nearly as useful as setting intentional practice and focusing on making fewer mistakes during actual gameplay. You’re not gonna get better at the game by making it more stressful and like homework, you’re gonna get better by finding a deck that really speaks to you and that you are enthusiastic about. This is really good advice. I would advise you to start collecting the stats and then not obsessively look at them. Just have it start gathering data you can look over later. There's a real human tendency to stress stats and overreact to the natural ups and downs of a game with a luck based element. Like, maybe start collecting the data and plan to look at it in a week or two?
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sephiRoth IRA posted:There's another deck that looks fun as hell, and appears like it wins a fair bit: https://app.cardboard.live/shared-deck/fa4a1198-ac67-11eb-8b34-12f15ef2af51?channel_id=183455126
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P1P1 Codie is fun.
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# ? May 4, 2021 03:05 |
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Bust Rodd posted:I personally think from playing many competitive games over the years that tracking your winrate and counting all your percentages like a calorie counter isn’t nearly as useful as setting intentional practice and focusing on making fewer mistakes during actual gameplay. You’re not gonna get better at the game by making it more stressful and like homework, you’re gonna get better by finding a deck that really speaks to you and that you are enthusiastic about. Not empty quoting
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# ? May 4, 2021 03:06 |
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Went to tutor for Narset’s Reversal in my Dimir Combo deck because that play pattern is something I do in cEDH often and was shocked to see the list I net decked wasn’t on it. Narset’s Reversal is a fantastic inclusion for the deck!! Regardless of the floor or the ceiling, you can Reversal your own Tainted Pact to use the copy to go and get Oracle, then play Oracle and cast the original pact again. So far the deck is really fun, just struggle with pure 40 counter control unless I draw well. The nature of singleton in Bo3 is that my G1’s feel very poor with lots of dead draws.
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breadnsucc fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Aug 21, 2021 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:How does this deck actually win? I can see ways to generate infinite mana, mill your whole deck and take a lot of turns in a row, but are you relying on Vivien ult and Llanowar Elves to actually kill your opponent? This is Mystmin's latest brew and if you know that name then you know it's some goofy off the wall poo poo that only works for him. Basically you generate infinite mana and infinite recursion to play Vivien and more importantly Time Warp over and over again so you can ultimate with her and just beat down with whatever you feel like because you have infinite turns. e: should note that he started his stream at 96% and fell to 92% playing this deck lol Eej fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 4, 2021 |
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breadnsucc posted:I had only ever used the premade decks before lmao this is soooo different It's a lot of fun, isn't it? As for Lurrus, yeah don't sweat it on that deck if you don't already have it. It's a zero compromise addition though, so if you do have one, definitely toss it in. Beyond making people think that you're playing Rogues and mulliganing accordingly, it has use in games where it's come to a stalemate and you need extra bodies on the field, either to get the last push or to maintain a stalemate by bringing back a chump blocker every turn. That said, the deck lacks one of Cycling's best tools for generating chump blockers, Improbable Alliance, so games are less likely to end up there than with the souped-up version. Also, at 6 mana (3 to buy, 3 to play), it's rarely ever going to be a better choice than just cycling whatever you can to try to get Zenith Flare. It does come up though, and it's better than nothing if you have it.
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lurrus is good in multiple formats and you only need 1 for most decks, it's a very safe/efficient craft
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# ? May 4, 2021 03:35 |
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Nutty that it's a good card even after the errata.
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# ? May 4, 2021 03:40 |
Yeah, definitely a safe craft and a good card, but in that specific deck it's not really worth crafting as the only rare. If they move up to the Jeskai version, at least enough to craft the Pathways (not necessarily Irencrag Pyromancer or Rielle, the Everwise) then it's definitely worth going for it.
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Eej posted:This is Mystmin's latest brew and if you know that name then you know it's some goofy off the wall poo poo that only works for him. I love watching Mystmin, he's one of my favorite streamers. His combo poo poo is extremely my jam, but you make a good point that I won't be nearly as successful. Hence my desire to get better at piloting. Combo stuff in Historic seems to be just pact right now, correct?
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Chump blocked my opponent's luminarch aspirant for 7 turns with elves, geese and ruinblasters while keeping them on zero lands, and finally ticked over waking the trolls for the glorious ponza victory.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:I love watching Mystmin, he's one of my favorite streamers. His combo poo poo is extremely my jam, but you make a good point that I won't be nearly as successful. Hence my desire to get better at piloting. I think this is more or less a good look at the way things are right now: https://twitter.com/mtg_data/status/1389207066640883714 Again, there's a lot of random poo poo you can run that you can take to Mythic if you know what you're doing but this is a general overview of the meta.
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Last draft with 4 Bury in Books and a bunch of 8 land cards went 4-3. 3 wins were from successfully controlling until I cast Exponential Growth on the Pugilist. 1 game I won from resolving a lot of big fractals until the opponent left. 1 loss was from not drawing lands on time. 2 losses were from decks that out-controlled me. I think if I were to draft the Quandrix 8 lands deck again I would maybe cut one Bury in Books for a tough 3 mana creature and something else for an 18th land. This new draft is my luckiest yet. Picked up P1P1 Hofri, P2P1 Blot Out the Sky, Lorehold Command, 3 Combat Professors, and a Gods Willing this draft. I couldn't find an Environmental Sciences though, so I had to cut an Igneous Inspiration. Game 1 the opponent scooped while at 16 life when I played Lorehold Command after they double blocked Hofri. Hopefully the rest go this easy.
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Eej posted:I think this is more or less a good look at the way things are right now: Good data! Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I'm gonna try this pact thing out
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Eej posted:I think this is more or less a good look at the way things are right now: Oof that rogues match up is even grimmer than I thought for the Tainted Pact hero. Didn't expect azorius to do that well against either.
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I imagine my opponent was really happy when this happened.
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Eej posted:I think this is more or less a good look at the way things are right now: Gives me the warm fuzzies to see a metagame grid with like a dozen rows and the most commonly played deck by percentage is "other" That izzet Phoenix Winrate is slightly worrying
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I wouldn't worry too much about the Phoenix winrate yet. If you look at the matrix, it has real bad matchups against tier 1 decks: Gruul Aggro, Pact Combo, Orzhov Auras and Jund Food.
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# ? May 4, 2021 06:31 |
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The phoenix deck is getting boosted by having a very good game against rakdos and stompy. And keep in mind you can add a few percentage points to any if the aggro decks since mtga doesn't have open lists
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Oh FFS my quests just disappeared. I thought they fixed this poo poo.
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Sedisp posted:The phoenix deck is getting boosted by having a very good game against rakdos and stompy. And keep in mind you can add a few percentage points to any if the aggro decks since mtga doesn't have open lists
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Rogues has been bullied out of the meta by mean creature decks too. Was fun while it lasted and it's still lurking about preying on control and combo.
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Chamale posted:
RIP Here lies Dragon's Approach. It never scored.
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# ? May 4, 2021 11:42 |
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First 7 win draft for this release, finally. Silverquill quill is strong. In one game I had Daemogoth Titan, Poet's quill and Brackish Trudge. Means I could attack every turn to attack with titan, gain 10 life, bring back trudge. Before that I attacked with trudge, gained 5 life and brought back trudge. Very boardstall. My opponent could attack with their zephyr boots to cycle for a chumpblocker, but I went up to 80 life. Their boots killed them. On my last turn I finally cast that Introduction to Annihilation, to make them draw the last card in their library. Then I got my 7th win against someone who was so manascrewed, I won before they cast any spell at all. 1 Clever Lumimancer 2 Star Pupil 1 Stonebinder's Familiar 1 Unwilling Ingredient 1 Brackish Trudge 1 Pilgrim of the Ages 1 Reflective Golem 1 Silverquill Pledgemage 1 Daemogoth Titan 1 Dueling Coach 2 Specter of the Fens 1 Owlin Shieldmage 1 Lash of Malice 1 Professor's Warning 1 Show of Confidence 2 Essence Infusion 1 Humiliate 1 Exhilarating Elocution 2 Poet's Quill 1 Hall of Oracles 7 Plains 2 Silverquill Campus 7 Swamp
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VictualSquid posted:1 Clever Lumimancer I have been avoiding 4x creatures unless I am in the school. How many times was the titan stuck in your hand?
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wolfman101 posted:I have been avoiding 4x creatures unless I am in the school. How many times was the titan stuck in your hand? I think the only game, where the titan stayed in my hand for a long time he ended up eating a humiliate.
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# ? May 4, 2021 13:14 |
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Can I just say that I love this card art? It's not a bad effect either. If you can learn it and cast it in the same turn, you can remove a key blocker and win games with this card. It's a nice delaying card too if you know your opp's hand.
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CGB was saying he really liked it in Monowhite as a find off of Professor of Symbology. You often have hand knowledge with Elite Spellbinder, and even if you don't there are times when your opponent really needs to resolve Shadow's Verdict or Doomskar next turn to not lose.
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It'll be interesting to see if Learn - Lesson sticks around for Bo3. For Bo1, there's not much tradeoff, but lessons taking sideboard space make them a lot more pricey.
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So far I haven't seen a brew that really packs a huge punch with Learn/Lesson given how weak the Lesson cards are for constructed, but I'm pretty confident there's something out there. And I'm pretty confident the mechanic will come back a little stronger next time too.
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# ? May 4, 2021 16:46 |
Not a big fan of this draft - I had started Silverquill, then went Witherbloom since it was open, but I didn't manage to get any really good cards. What should I remove? That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 4, 2021 |
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Mike N Eich posted:So far I haven't seen a brew that really packs a huge punch with Learn/Lesson given how weak the Lesson cards are for constructed, but I'm pretty confident there's something out there. And I'm pretty confident the mechanic will come back a little stronger next time too. Apropos of the previous post, fetching Academic Probation in white based aggro has been far and away the best application that I've tried. Probating their Shadow's Verdict/whatever sweeper is always a huge difference maker, usually disrupting it for a single turn is enough to get over the line.
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Mike N Eich posted:So far I haven't seen a brew that really packs a huge punch with Learn/Lesson given how weak the Lesson cards are for constructed, but I'm pretty confident there's something out there. And I'm pretty confident the mechanic will come back a little stronger next time too. It feels like it was architected to be playable at the power level they're setting for after Eldraine leaves Standard. In that it's obviously not quite there right now, even if it might see sporadic use like how Monowhite will play Professor of Symbiology now, but seems to be a good fit in a Witherbloom sacrifice deck if such a thing becomes viable.
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