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Is there still no shopping cart? You're kidding. Uh... Unrelated, I'm playing a little bit of the ol, Turnip Boy Commits Tax Evasion. They need a skip dialogue button, but I seem to be liking it. I hope to finish it on my day off tomorrow, finally. Whew.
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Serephina posted:Doesn't that basically mean the end purchasers are SOL? It's a pain for the devs and they're losing money from all the chargebacks etc, but they're not really losing sales. Buying accounts is dodgy as heck, those fools knew what they where doing. Yeah, end purchasers almost certainly got screwed on the deal. Scammers realized Epic didn't have any way to clawback fraudulently purchased keys activated to Uplay accounts and it took them several weeks to coordinate with Ubi to lock it down and disable the accounts. Also it was exacerbated by them not doing any kind of email or account verification Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 07:23 on May 4, 2021 |
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The quote Hub Cat linked is from a personal apology letter Tim Sweeney sent to Yves Guillemot (DX-3536). There's also another document with a long email chain where Epic's COO is discussing how they can prevent this and the answer from the employees is basically "we can't, the store's backend sucks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" . Tens of thousands of keys.
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At this point I'd assume the lack of shopping cart is Epic opting for mobile/app shopping approach to reduce friction and encourage impulse purchases.
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May 4, 2021 07:30
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In the Epic Games app under the Library tab there's an Unreal Engine tab. When you open it you can go to the Marketplace where you can buy Unreal Engine assets and stuff like that. It has a shopping cart... So no, it's not that they can't implement it, they just categorically refuse to do it for some reason. I guess it's a meme at this point.
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Burning Rain posted:At this point I'd assume the lack of shopping cart is Epic opting for mobile/app shopping approach to reduce friction and encourage impulse purchases. Shopping carts increase the likelihood of impulse purchases. That's why they exist.
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documents from yesterday's exhibits that jump out to me are: Epic Games Store - Review of Performance and Strategy, October 25 2019: https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806827524160 - source of the free games dev revenue, more store figures in there (inc. borderlands 3 exclusivity breakdown) Fortnite budget vs actual, September 2017: https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806840787848 - notable for the end part where it gives a breakdown of payments to 3rd party devs, also has a bunch of employee names, title, leads, locations, start dates, etc that should have been redacted imo Misc: https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806838728841 - email on stadia (pre-launch and epic's expectations for the platform), and info on Project Storm (Walmart's cloud gaming service) with a lot of internal Walmart metrics included that box link was supposed to be media only for the trial
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 Can someone explain the "New to Epic %" column? NVM: Its new epic accounts divided by entitlements. Xakura fucked around with this message at 11:42 on May 4, 2021 |
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May 4, 2021 11:39
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Xakura posted:
I think it means the percentage of people who signed up for that game.
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Sininu posted:I think it means the percentage of people who signed up for that game. That's the New Epic Accounts column. "New to Epic %" is what percentage of the free games given out (entitlements) were to new epic accounts instead of to pre-existing users.
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MarcusSA posted:Someone did the math. Maybe wrong but it was funny either way Probably fair to take the perspective that every dollar Epic spends is aimed at capturing those users, not just the game giveaways. They’re certainly not spending it on a shopping cart mooonshot.
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Anno posted:The Epic vs. Apple trial began today, giving the public a rare glance into some of the the dealings and internal metrics of some big players in the industry. Am I the only one thinking that Sony's revenue share policy is kind of bizarre? Also, those executive e-mails are pretty amusing. repiv posted:Fortnite was the very first game to ship PS4 crossplay wasn't it? I wonder what agreement they came to in the end Yeah, Fortnite first and Rocket League second, as I recall.
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exquisite tea posted:Shopping carts increase the likelihood of impulse purchases. That's why they exist. As someone who works in retail, the number of times I've heard "I just came in here looking for X...." And then they have a full shopping cart. Lol. Some customers will take the smaller shopping cart to help control themselves and then they stack their purchases above their height in there. Unrelated question, any of you have some experience with Persona 5 Strikers? Just gathering opinions as I'm curious about it.
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Jamfrost posted:As someone who works in retail, the number of times I've heard "I just came in here looking for X...." And then they have a full shopping cart. Lol. Some customers will take the smaller shopping cart to help control themselves and then they stack their purchases above their height in there. P5S, despite being an action game, still has that traditional Persona “active contempt for the player’s time” thing going on. Also the party AI is dumber than bricks and constantly wastes SP. And if you play it in a dark room every screen transition is a blinding white screen that hurts to look at. I found it to be a tremendous dissapointment.
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Are there any stats they've released about how much a new Epic account is actually worth? Like it's all well and good that they've got someone through the door but if they were only interested in the one game that got them there then there's very little lifetime value for Epic.
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I don't mind the lack of a shopping cart so much, but I'd have bought a bunch more stuff on Epic if it allowed gifting like Steam does. Between wishlists and gifting, Steam makes it very easy to buy birthday presents for gamer friends (plus if you're family sharing with those friends you get to play the game too, like Homerball)
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Kin posted:Are there any stats they've released about how much a new Epic account is actually worth? I feel like that there isn't a real answer for that yet. Currently they haven't earned poo poo, but they want to make big bucks with zoomers in 2025 or 2030, and it's impossible tell how that will play out.
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given the projections they make are worst-case 20% control of the digital pc market in a few years i'd take any internal analysis on their value with a ton of salt
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Yeah, Epic's projections are pretty wild and remind me of another goon favorite, Intel's Itanium projections..
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i'm glad i'm not the only one that saw itanium projections in those exhibits speaking of incompetent analysis i'm awaiting the steam spy guy who couldn't forecast their way out of a bag and got hired by epic to appear somewhere in this lawsuit, they're bound to be up to some incredibly stupid poo poo in the back offices
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Kin posted:Are there any stats they've released about how much a new Epic account is actually worth?   ARPPU = Average revenue per paying user Seeing as they'd spent considerably less than $53M on new games at that point, it's probably been a successful strategy. Burning Rain fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 4, 2021 |
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lol apparently we got more of a look into things than was expected. https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1389599449199136769
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Anno posted:lol apparently we got more of a look into things than was expected.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:P5S, despite being an action game, still has that traditional Persona “active contempt for the player’s time” thing going on. Also the party AI is dumber than bricks and constantly wastes SP. And if you play it in a dark room every screen transition is a blinding white screen that hurts to look at. I found it to be a tremendous dissapointment. Like what??? I don't remember it ever wasting my time through stuff. And the only screen that's way too bright is the shop screen. The rest are black and red. Were you playing Persona 5 Strikers? Because I just got through playing the entire game and the AI barely if ever uses SP. In fact I found them to be pretty smart as they were decent in combat and could dodge all of the big boss attacks that could be dodged. Were you mistaking the free spells you can cast through doing combos with actual spells that cost SP? As far as my time with Persona, I loved it extremely much. I was expecting it to be more of a Musou game than it was advertised to be, but the blend of Musou and RPG is really quite satisfying. Tip: Buy tons of SP items because on Hard mode you'll want to be ready to go to town during specific phases to get to the burn phases quicker. pentyne posted:Yeah I figure Shenmue 3 will the same problem as a lot of these 90s and early 00s dyanmo game director projects. Mighty No 9, Balan Wonderworld, Star Citizen, DF-9, I'm sure there's at least a half dozen others. Creators who are famous for something they made in a wildly different era getting a chance for a flashy new modern game are shooting their shot and just absolutely loving it up. No uh Shenmue 3 does not have the problem of being a flashy new modern game at all. It's literally exactly the same as Shenmue 1 and 2 but with changes that actively make it worse. Kchama fucked around with this message at 16:58 on May 4, 2021 |
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yeah the "AI is an SP hog" point is flat-out wrong, every character has a zero-SP elemental skill that the AI chooses to spam instead and they seldom heal of their own volition. the only time they ever started to run empty without my prompting them was if one particular character cast Debilitate too often
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Anonymous Robot posted:Does Strikers have split screen multi? It's not a multiplayer game of any kind.
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A musou without multi? Bummer.
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It's very much a Persona game that just happens to have small scale musoulike combat in the random encounters. You need to be initiating sneak attacks on mobs through dungeons, matching elements, resistances, managing equipment and side missions, etc. On top of sitting through dozens and dozens of hours of cutscenes and dialog. I don't know that formula would work with another person. It is not 'here is a field with 100,000 enemies cut your way through them with no fucks given'
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a better comparison would probably be one of the Tales games with musou-type combat (square-square-square-triangle, that sort of thing) and persona-type story progression weird mutant of a game but it was decent on the whole
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For what it’s worth, if there’s one thing that would do wonders to spice up the musou formula, it would be to give their UI elements the level of glitz and style that P5 has.
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 Worth it for CSD 3 as it's the best in the series, but otherwise, yawn.
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metro exodus is good and it's worth grabbing before the free upgrade to the enhanced edition drops
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Vane looks so good, big shame about the horrible controls and camera most reviews complain about. 
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ymgve posted:metro exodus is good and it's worth grabbing before the free upgrade to the enhanced edition drops The enhanced edition will be a free upgrade?
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yegods posted:The enhanced edition will be a free upgrade? https://www.metrothegame.com/news/the-metro-exodus-pc-enhanced-edition-arrives-may-6th/ quote:The PC Enhanced Edition is FREE to all owners of the original release on Steam, the Epic Games Store, Good Old Games and the Microsoft Store. Might mean it will be free for everyone even if you buy it in the future, but also might mean just for existing owners
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yegods posted:The enhanced edition will be a free upgrade? Yeah it's free. It will be a distinct install though, not an update for the original version, so don't bother installing the original in anticipation. The enhanced edition will *require* a raytracing capable graphics card (so Nvidia RTX 2000/3000 or AMD RX6000 series) FYI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbpZCSf4_Yk repiv fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 4, 2021 |
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Darksiders Genesis is also a decent and fun game. It’s basically just Darksiders but isometric. Think of Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light.
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