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surprisingly, bourgeois ideology is incoherent and disgusting
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my dream (and i know it won't happen) is that we get circuit breakers for no loving reason
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May 4, 2021 15:41
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calling it. all time highs today. FAITH
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May 4, 2021 15:47
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"money isnt real," i assure myself as i close my eyes and ram the s&p 500 with my remaining meagre savings
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May 4, 2021 15:48
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Cold on a Cob posted:"money isnt real," i assure myself as i close my eyes and ram the s&p 500 with my remaining meagre savings only through the markets can your money attain true immortality
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May 4, 2021 15:51
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buying the dip. we should all strive to perform saintly actions such as this.
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May 4, 2021 15:55
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number crashed
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May 4, 2021 15:55
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Petey posted:anyway, the reason the river of meat blood "i" call "myself" started the whole nick land discussion is because i will now be confronting the movements of Number as the mysterious expression of a nonhuman intelligence animating/emanating from a multispecies, time-traveling actor-network whose intentions are not so much hostile to ours as uncaring. we may feel fated to resist number, or (alternatively) feel fated to believe that we can choose to resist it. i celebrate and support that. the number, however, moves Just one small thing to add wrt the "time traveling" part. From what I understand, Land has some less than orthodox views on causality. It's less "time traveling" in the traditional sense and more of a cybernetic feedback mechanism with a sign flip. Or maybe it's like a reverse feed forward. I picture it as a cybernetic network that is decoupled from our limited perception of time moving in a single direction, and operates in a space os simultaneous temporality. In this case, it's a dialectical operation between the future and the past. So yeah, basically time travel lol. But it's important to note that in that framework, it wouldn't be a phenomenon limited to just techno-capital. It's also a materialist way of opening up a sort of fluid teleology.
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May 4, 2021 15:56
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How is Number today?
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Norton posted:Everything is self-serving for the elites, that's what they do. Death being a permanent end to your consciousness is an idea that the elites use in combination with their guns and henchmen to scare people into submission via threats of death. That doesn't make the idea that death ends your consciousness wrong though. Elites will abuse you with everything they can, I don't think that's a good metric for determining which ideas to believe. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion quote:Nothing could be more self-evident. And yet according to a growing chorus of philosophers and scientists, who have a variety of different reasons for their view, it also can’t possibly be the case. “This sort of free will is ruled out, simply and decisively, by the laws of physics,” says one of the most strident of the free will sceptics, the evolutionary biologist Jerry Coyne. Leading psychologists such as Steven Pinker and Paul Bloom agree, as apparently did the late Stephen Hawking, along with numerous prominent neuroscientists, including VS Ramachandran, who called free will “an inherently flawed and incoherent concept” in his endorsement of Sam Harris’s bestselling 2012 book Free Will, which also makes that argument. According to the public intellectual Yuval Noah Harari, free will is an anachronistic myth – useful in the past, perhaps, as a way of motivating people to fight against tyrants or oppressive ideologies, but rendered obsolete by the power of modern data science to know us better than we know ourselves, and thus to predict and manipulate our choices. But yes, you are correct. The elites very much see it as “free will for thee and not for me”
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May 4, 2021 16:00
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Cold on a Cob posted:my dream (and i know it won't happen) is that we get circuit breakers for no loving reason It would be very cool
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May 4, 2021 16:03
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion Gotta love science nerds doing baby's first philosophy while the press uncritically sucks them off 
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May 4, 2021 16:04
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/27/the-clockwork-universe-is-free-will-an-illusion yeah lol the most common "free will isn't real" belief is more accurately summarized as "most humans are NPC drones who don't have free will, unlike me" which is pretty much reactionary ideology in a nutshell.
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May 4, 2021 16:12
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Does dogecoin not have a mining ceiling? Like bitcoin and its' 20~ million hard limit? the 20 million limit isn't really hard either, since mining is centralized they can just change to protocol to be like doge some austrian nerds will of course freak out and fork into bitcoin satoshi vision mark IV but noone will care
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May 4, 2021 16:14
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yeah lol the most common "free will isn't real" belief is more accurately summarized as "most humans are NPC drones who don't have free will, unlike me" which is pretty much reactionary ideology in a nutshell. believing that free will and consciousness are just illusions are a great way for a capitalist to cope with exploiting hundreds/thousands of people for personal benefit. those are not people i am just interacting with the environment!
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May 4, 2021 16:16
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Doge is worth 2 quarters (1/2) now
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May 4, 2021 16:16
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Zodium posted:... Nice, thanks for the recs!
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May 4, 2021 16:18
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https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598499730231302?s=19 https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1389599933481644032?s=19 https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598009768488962?s=19 They are coming to realize they broke everything Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 16:22 on May 4, 2021 |
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May 4, 2021 16:20
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Does dogecoin not have a mining ceiling? Like bitcoin and its' 20~ million hard limit? some do it because they are stupid bazinga types who are true believers in the church of the singularity where apartheid clyde proselytizes from his twitter pulpit others do it because they realize that their best chance for a decent future in hellworld is to roll the dice and hopefully come up a winner
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May 4, 2021 16:22
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Blinkz posted:I mean I have to ask this. Like what exactly is the endgame for Doge coin? Do true believers think that one day I'm going to throw away my credit cards and USD and be digitally trading coins with a dog's face on it for groceries or am I thinking about this too hard? pretty sure dogecoin was started as a joke so the use of "true believer" here confuses me
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May 4, 2021 16:22
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Marx Headroom posted:pretty sure dogecoin was started as a joke so the use of "true believer" here confuses me welcome to the future, where things (and people) are dumber than you could possibly imagine
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May 4, 2021 16:23
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598499730231302?s=19 slam this poo poo in my veins
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May 4, 2021 16:24
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https://twitter.com/FinancialJuice/status/1389598791653855242 holy gently caress number will die
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May 4, 2021 16:25
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598499730231302?s=19 They can't raise rates. Can you imagine the western world with even 5% interest in 2025? No way they can do it without collapsing everything
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Gods_Butthole posted:Just one small thing to add wrt the "time traveling" part. From what I understand, Land has some less than orthodox views on causality. It's less "time traveling" in the traditional sense and more of a cybernetic feedback mechanism with a sign flip. Or maybe it's like a reverse feed forward. I picture it as a cybernetic network that is decoupled from our limited perception of time moving in a single direction, and operates in a space os simultaneous temporality. In this case, it's a dialectical operation between the future and the past. So yeah, basically time travel lol. But it's important to note that in that framework, it wouldn't be a phenomenon limited to just techno-capital. It's also a materialist way of opening up a sort of fluid teleology. 
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May 4, 2021 16:25
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It seems the people behind the markets knew this yellen news was coming, but lmao if it isn't spooking everyone. Number will be green by end of the day.
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May 4, 2021 16:26
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she just said : inflation is here , supply side doesn’t work , and we are coming for your money lmao
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May 4, 2021 16:27
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Mr Hootington posted:It seems the people behind the markets knew this yellen news was coming, but lmao if it isn't spooking everyone. it was priced in
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sleep with the vicious posted:They can't raise rates. Can you imagine the western world with even 5% interest in 2025? No way they can do it without collapsing everything A .25% rause would collapse everything. The entire system is completely hosed.
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May 4, 2021 16:27
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on the one hand, inflation. on the other, stonk ending interest rates. seems like a contradiction to me, but then I’m not a billionaire pedophile and free will haver!
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May 4, 2021 16:27
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QQQ qq
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May 4, 2021 16:28
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598499730231302?s=19 
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i dunno if the beginning and ending of the universe is set in stone or not but i know no one has any real agency in their lives. personally, i really like the idea that a bunch of empirically measurable constants and physical properties interacting at the beginning of all reality have led to an inevitable trajectory of me buying $300 worth of doge yesterday. that really warms my heart
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May 4, 2021 16:29
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euphronius posted:it was priced in Supposedly a .50 rate hike in 2023 is priced in. Lmao
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I guess cybernetics chat moved in here since r-slur-chat has taken over the theory thread again Re: demiurge hyperintelligence poo poo: on the same level of "totally unprovable" but an interesting alternate perspective on this is idea that consciousness is the result of the kind of information and control flows that allow for purposeful action in response to the environment. Looked at in that way, a corporate PR department gathering information, reporting the analysis to the executives, who then tell R&D what kind of product to develop, is conscious in the same way that an animal changing it's behavior to find food in a changing environment is, though the scale and specific mechanics of that consciousness are quite different. I haven't gotten into Stafford Beer's stuff enough to have come across this myself but I've heard this idea attributed to him. Taking that as an assumption paints a somewhat different picture: capitalism itself isn't the higher order intelligence, it's the ecosystem that corporate intelligences exist within. Corporations share similar modes of existence (extracting surplus value from labor, reinvesting that value into capital and "innovation", hoarding excess value) and coordinate in a social manner to reproduce the environment they exist in (via the state and financial institutions), but they also compete with each other and will happily stab each other in the back for slices of market share. The fact that capitalism itself isn't intelligent is visible in its inability to meaningfully respond to climate change, pandemics, and repeated economic crises. For example the Western pandemic response is just the flailing of corporate entities forcing states to "open r up" as much as possible and just eating the damage from losses in the labor force because they fear the damage to their way of life from a lockdown and "handouts" will be worse. We should probably have a cybernetics thread lol
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May 4, 2021 16:30
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there is no free will. it has all been priced in.
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May 4, 2021 16:34
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QQQ puts are up like 2000% lmaoo
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turd in my singlet posted:r-slur-chat you motherfucker!!!
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Gosh it turns out the booming demand that was supposed to be there through the summer wasn't there. Ah man you are saying the consumer base of the economy are poorer than ever? Raw material prices are skyrocketing still when PMI numbers haven't or barely recovered to prepandemic levels? What is that? GDP growth is just from QE? Permanent 10% unemployment? Southern Asia and Europe are reentering covid lockdowns and their economies seem to be double dipping? PawParole posted:QQQ puts are up like 2000% lmaoo Now we hit the fun part. Do the prices drop enough to give us more Archegos? ARKK's investments are being pounded.
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