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euphronius posted:there is no free will. it has all been priced in.
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From prices rising to traffic increasing, your daily life will continue to get more unlivable and miserable. This is what is known as "recovery"
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May 4, 2021 16:41
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Number is having a brief moment of clarity. Soon it will forget and be green again. Number is old.
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May 4, 2021 16:44
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Mr Hootington posted:Supposedly a .50 rate hike in 2023 is priced in. Lmao lol
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May 4, 2021 16:48
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raise interest rates to 20%, i want a savings account!!! ...woah, what? banks don't exist anymore? well, i guess it's a wash
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https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/health-insurer-financial-performance-in-2020/quote:Health Insurer Financial Performance in 2020 
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Just a tiny fun monday. We will have ATH Wednesday, Thursday, and friday.
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turd in my singlet posted:Taking that as an assumption paints a somewhat different picture: capitalism itself isn't the higher order intelligence, it's the ecosystem that corporate intelligences exist within. Corporations share similar modes of existence (extracting surplus value from labor, reinvesting that value into capital and "innovation", hoarding excess value) and coordinate in a social manner to reproduce the environment they exist in (via the state and financial institutions), but they also compete with each other and will happily stab each other in the back for slices of market share. i would definitely high-post in a cybernetics thread also, I think it's helpful to let go of the idea of there being one level of "real intelligences", where everything else is "systems". That's kinda positivist... it gets you into arguments about who the "real" intelligences are. instead, approach things dialectically. Just describe each level of the system in terms of its relations to other levels. ant colonies are systems of ants, but can be considered alive themselves. similarly, corporations are systems of humans, but can be considered alive themselves. humans are systems of cells, ecosystems are systems of biological life forms, capitalist economies are systems of corporations. and so on. Marxism is basically a set of battle-tested techniques for giving humans more steering power over your system. This lets them let out pressure and do more long-term planning than is possible in capitalist frameworks, like bourgeois democracy. It works, too. Look at China rn. Barely any covid deaths, executing billionaires when they step out of line, belt and road. Turns out that when you get Marxists like Xi Jinping in charge, you can get stuff done.
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in the rare instances i watch broadcast television, i've seen several medicare advantage commercials from a couple of insurers lately i had never even heard of it
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Xi Jinping's Marxism leaves much to be desired
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May 4, 2021 16:57
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Mr Hootington posted:A .25% rause would collapse everything. The entire system is completely hosed. its doubly hilarious because a .25 hike wouldnt affect balance sheets at all. sure there would be more expensive debt but all these places are hedged out to their ears so they are already paying against rate changes but since rate hike = sell to traders the market will collapse lol
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May 4, 2021 17:01
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389598499730231302?s=19 lmfao
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turd in my singlet posted:I guess cybernetics chat moved in here since r-slur-chat has taken over the theory thread again Hell yeah. Also there's a theory thread? Is it the communism thread?
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May 4, 2021 17:10
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lol prevent the market from overheating lumber is 4x what it was last year and houses are going up double digit percentages a month
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May 4, 2021 17:11
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if you pretend problems aren't currently happening you can say all of your actions are proactive
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Kesper North posted:Xi Jinping's Marxism leaves much to be desired you heard it from sr. forums analyst kesper north, folx
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Gods_Butthole posted:Just one small thing to add wrt the "time traveling" part. From what I understand, Land has some less than orthodox views on causality. It's less "time traveling" in the traditional sense and more of a cybernetic feedback mechanism with a sign flip. Or maybe it's like a reverse feed forward. I picture it as a cybernetic network that is decoupled from our limited perception of time moving in a single direction, and operates in a space os simultaneous temporality. In this case, it's a dialectical operation between the future and the past. So yeah, basically time travel lol. But it's important to note that in that framework, it wouldn't be a phenomenon limited to just techno-capital. It's also a materialist way of opening up a sort of fluid teleology. this is good thank you turd in my singlet posted:I guess cybernetics chat moved in here since r-slur-chat has taken over the theory thread again yes please PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/FinancialJuice/status/1389598791653855242 *me as i browse redfin and try to compare a raised rate vs a lower price or at least not having to pay in cash and waiving all contingencies* is that.....is that good
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Centrist Committee posted:you heard it from sr. forums analyst kesper north, folx just throwin' them uyghurs under the bus huh
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May 4, 2021 17:21
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Zodium posted:
same, brothers
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May 4, 2021 17:22
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everyone pls stop buying houses lumber gpus and corn!
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Kesper North posted:just throwin' them uyghurs under the bus huh I thank them for my kidneys everyday. 🤗
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love to repeat bullshit western propaganda in the leftist forum
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What's that gotta do with Maoism vs Dengism anyway
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Please remember that this is the number thread, and it must go up.
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Lostconfused posted:Please remember that this is the number thread, and it must go up. interest rates are a number
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animist posted:i would definitely high-post in a cybernetics thread agree with this broadly, but the a system that can respond to the environment and remain a coherent entity does seem meaningfully different than just a complex system. it's not an either-or thing though: the whole idea of Beer's 'VSM diagnosis' was to identify areas within an organization that interfered with the capacity for intelligent behavior; and observation of the natural world (and corporate world) demonstrates there are many levels and types of 'intelligence' Gods_Butthole posted:Hell yeah. yeah the 'spectrum' thread but don't read it bc it keeps getting derailed by the absolute dumbest drama i've ever seen seems to be some interest in a cybernetics thread so DM me if y'all have ideas for / want to make the OP. i've got a broad grasp of it but haven't done any organizing with cybernetics and don't work in a related field or anything, just started gooning out about it about 6 months ago lol turd in my singlet has issued a correction as of 17:53 on May 4, 2021 |
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/FinancialJuice/status/1389598791653855242 Number seems to be ignoring this so far We need some sort of mass market panic
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/FinancialJuice/status/1389598791653855242 ahh, it sounds like Yellen has heard the cries about a possible rise in wages
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Number seems to be ignoring this so far There was a good 20 minutes where everything was making GBS threads itself.
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what is number's trajectory? is it up?
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bobmarleysghost posted:what is number's trajectory? is it up? Well according to technical analysis of drawing random lines on a squiggly line, you will see number is down today and about to pass my arbitrary mark. Edit: https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1389632589351247873?s=19 They gonna do it. Fed atlant gdpnow forecast for Q2 is 13.6% Edit2: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1389632324917207044?s=19 THEY GONNA DO IT! Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 18:29 on May 4, 2021 |
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Number seems to be ignoring this so far  independence
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NUMBER UP wait, not that one, no, oh nooo
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the sovcits were right
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:NUMBER UP 
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can someone explain this to me? did they just forget to collect 7 trillion tax dollars? just a little woopsy doodle?
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punished milkman posted:can someone explain this to me? did they just forget to collect 7 trillion tax dollars? just a little woopsy doodle? IRS can’t afford to actually audit/go after the rich so yeah they just let them do whatever forever.
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punished milkman posted:can someone explain this to me? did they just forget to collect 7 trillion tax dollars? just a little woopsy doodle? How do you suggest to collect money from billionaires if they don't just willingly hand it over?
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