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Detective No. 27 posted:It's funny that whenever they do finally introduce x-Men/Mutants into the MCU they won't be able to hang out with Iron Man, Captain America, and probably Spider-Man for various reasons. They'll be able to hang out with SamCap and presumably Nu Iron Man and maybe Miles Morales though. 
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May 3, 2021 20:06
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Very excited for Woody https://twitter.com/kidblue/status/1389271756326641664?s=19
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May 3, 2021 22:07
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I don’t want to yuck anyone’s yum and maybe I am broken human being, but I just don’t get reactions like this - https://twitter.com/sairaspooks/status/1389219562256797699?s=21 Can someone explain this to me?
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May 3, 2021 22:32
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People get emotionally invested in stuff and form para-social relationships with celebrities.
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May 3, 2021 22:38
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Hoop Dreams posted:People get emotionally invested in stuff and form para-social relationships with celebrities. I think I would understand the emotion more if it wasn’t just title art. It is literally the most nothing thing. BRB getting emotionally distraught over some WordArt of the new Avengers title.
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May 3, 2021 22:44
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Mordiceius posted:I don’t want to yuck anyone’s yum and maybe I am broken human being, but I just don’t get reactions like this - The movie struck a huge emotional chord with a lot of people and then the lead actor died tragically young. Mordiceius posted:I think I would understand the emotion more if it wasn’t just title art. It is literally the most nothing thing. I don't think it's so much the art as the name itself.
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May 3, 2021 22:47
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I guess I am just a broken human that can’t enjoy things. But I can enjoy this - https://twitter.com/ihatethiskid/status/1388907858767585280?s=20
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May 3, 2021 22:53
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^ LoL. "Nobody thought I was cool for dunking on that one rando from the internet for having feelings. Let me quickly find another rando lady to make fun of. That'll get everyone on my side." ^stev posted:The movie struck a huge emotional chord with a lot of people and then the lead actor died tragically young.
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May 3, 2021 23:14
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CelticPredator posted:Guardians 3 getting a date was the only good part of the video. The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker TV show are this year.
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May 4, 2021 00:09
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Timeless Appeal posted:^ LoL. "Nobody thought I was cool for dunking on that one rando from the internet for having feelings. Let me quickly find another rando lady to make fun of. That'll get everyone on my side." ^ I think they were just asking a question calm down
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May 4, 2021 00:19
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Mameluke posted:Cmon is Black Panther 2 gonna be Nakia, Okoye, or Shuri, that's all we wanna know Hoe many CIA agents will they be praising though?
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May 4, 2021 00:30
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Word is it's Winston Duke. Or, if he's not Black Panther, he'll be playing a major role. He quit a TV role for it apparently.
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May 4, 2021 00:32
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hiddenriverninja posted:where is the secret power up plant going to come from? "The magic was in you all along" I assume.
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Mameluke posted:Cmon is Black Panther 2 gonna be Nakia, Okoye, or Shuri, that's all we wanna know Its great you think they're going to let it be a woman
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Burkion posted:Its great you think they're going to let it be a woman what about THREE women? edit: Chadwick's Angels
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hiddenriverninja posted:what about THREE women?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Is there any historical period that most people would recognize from ~5,000 B.C.? I think China and Japan are the only "major" civilizations that we have some knowledge of from that era. I’m not sure what you mean, Japan at 7000bp would have been affluent hunter gatherers, practicing some limited arboriculture and maybe horticulture, no major monumental building or anything that most people would be aware of. China had a lot of really disparate regional developments around this time but again definitely nothing with any purchase in the popular imagination.
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We all know Civilization starts in 4000 B.C. and ends in 2020 A.D., that's what Sid Meier designed.
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MacheteZombie posted:Lol please don't start the death of theaters argument again Just bought a new recliner and 4k tv 
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MacheteZombie posted:They'll share the mantle Who gets to be Black Panther when?
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Freakazoid_ posted:Just bought a new recliner and 4k tv Crank that motion smoothing
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MacheteZombie posted:They'll share the mantle Possible wild card: Angela Basset is Black Couger. I am a horrible human being and deserve to be punished.
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AccountSupervisor posted:The somewhat recently discovered Gobekli Tepe in modern day Turkey dates to around 9000 B.C., long before we even thought humans had started becoming sedentary and non-nomadic. this seems like a weird set of definitions of 'sedentary' and 'non-nomadic', given that indigenous australians got there 80,000 years ago and were well known for staying in one place in the many nice parts of the country where you don't have to be nomadic to survive
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Mordiceius posted:I don’t want to yuck anyone’s yum and maybe I am broken human being, but I just don’t get reactions like this - You know when you write "lmaoooo" but in reality you just had a brief smirk on a commute because of a shitpost meme?
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MacheteZombie posted:Crank that motion smoothing set noise reduction to "creamy"
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Chairman Capone posted:Finally, a movie brave enough to say what we're all thinking: we need to reunite to defeat the Deviants. Lmao.
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Mordiceius posted:I don’t want to yuck anyone’s yum and maybe I am broken human being, but I just don’t get reactions like this -
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Yeah, the ~marvel's black panther cultural phenomena~ isn't hard to read. It's the platonic cinema ideal of that Malcolm X quote: "The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and justice." Since actual political/racial progress in this country has been, uh, let's tactfully say somewhat mitigated by the powers that be, a DoD/Marvel blockbuster about a CIA-backed African coup fills that niche. My primary objection to the whole thing, even moreso than the fact that it's a remarkably perverse act of psychological warfare, is that it apparently made everybody forget about classic 1998 Wesley Snipes vehicle Blade. Be pretty cool to see Winston Duke get a bigger role, though. I've liked him since Us. The MSJ posted:The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker TV show are this year. Could not possibly overstate my excitement for the Douchebag Captain America TV Series, starring John Cena. Hell yeah. POWELL CURES KIDS fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 4, 2021 |
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How could anyone forget that epic fight in the vampire club while the dance remix of "Confusion" blares?
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Norrington's Blade is a one-man SR Combat Organization. Of course Marvel wants you to forget him.
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ungulateman posted:this seems like a weird set of definitions of 'sedentary' and 'non-nomadic', given that indigenous australians got there 80,000 years ago and were well known for staying in one place in the many nice parts of the country where you don't have to be nomadic to survive Probably more like 50k-30k years ago, since human migration out of Africa likely happened after a population bottleneck 100k-75k years ago. But you're right that these terms speak to a very restricted "classical" framework for what a civilization is, as defined by Western academia. Benchmarks like permanently-inhabited cities or stone architecture or specific evidence of agricultural industry are not necessarily important to some ancient civilizations, but those things sure are useful for archaeologists. "Semi-nomadic" or even "semi-agricultural" probably described a much longer period of human civilization than was previously believed all over the world. Sounds kind of boring to watch in a movie, though...I get why even 10,000 BC was more like 3000 BC with pyramids and sailing ships and mass urban settlement and what-not. I guess the Eternals just kind of chilled out until humans started building interesting poo poo. POWELL CURES KIDS posted:My primary objection to the whole thing, even moreso than the fact that it's a remarkably perverse act of psychological warfare, is that it apparently made everybody forget about classic 1998 Wesley Snipes vehicle Blade. Yeah, the "first Black superhero" bit was insufferable. I think it speaks more to how thoroughly corporations have dominated pop culture, that "the MCU" is a meaningful term for anyone outside their marketing. Blade came out 20 years before BP, but he wasn't in the MCU, so there's something ersatz or illegitimate about him until he is legitimized by Disney-Marvel. He's RC Cola, but Coke is the Real Thing. For sure, though, Blade is a more threatening figure, as well. Black Panther respects national sovereignty, chooses to work within systems of oppression without dismantling them for incremental gains. Blade is a rogue operative working under his own authority to dismantle a parasitic system of white oppression with zero regard for the structure it provides. The story ends with him killing the Vampire God, the Vampire ruling class decimated from within, as he takes his fight international because borders are meaningless.
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ungulateman posted:this seems like a weird set of definitions of 'sedentary' and 'non-nomadic', given that indigenous australians got there 80,000 years ago and were well known for staying in one place in the many nice parts of the country where you don't have to be nomadic to survive Sorry I was speaking in broader strokes, wasnt trying to derail it too much. Later neolithic sedentary groups with heavy agricultural practices vs primarily hunter-gathering pre-Neolithic nomadic groups. Although obviously they practiced both of those in varying degrees in both sedentary and nomadic lifestyles for a long time. I know some indigenous Australian agriculture and aquaculture has been dated to around the same period of development as other Neolithic cultures, obviously way earlier than what the colonial perspective sold for a long time but I dont know how much we are trying to dive into that in this thread lol.
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:Yeah, the ~marvel's black panther cultural phenomena~ isn't hard to read. It's the platonic cinema ideal of that Malcolm X quote: "The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and justice." Since actual political/racial progress in this country has been, uh, let's tactfully say somewhat mitigated by the powers that be, a DoD/Marvel blockbuster about a CIA-backed African coup fills that niche. My primary objection to the whole thing, even moreso than the fact that it's a remarkably perverse act of psychological warfare, is that it apparently made everybody forget about classic 1998 Wesley Snipes vehicle Blade. That's not to say that there isn't legit criticism. It's a big budget Marvel movie that fundamentally can't change its own Universe and not only casts a CIA agent in the positive light--Although people's memories are a bit selective of how the CIA is presented. And even if you want to go that road, Sam Jackson IS RIGHT THERE. But it's annoying when people use criticism to completely dismiss a film. To be clear, I think the CIA criticism amongst other things is valid. Although everyone who clutches their pearls about the film being pro-monarchy is being a clown. But we shouldn't use a criticism to just dismiss a movie entirely and anyone who the movie resonated with. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 00:05 on May 5, 2021 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:Alternatively, enslaved people literally told folktales of their African ancestors having Superpowers. The whole base fantasy of a superhero is the idea of hidden greatness. That nebbish reporter is really the greatest hero in the world. That skinny kid from Brooklyn is really the bravest man you'll meet. Black Panther is appealing to the audience in the same way The People Could Fly did. It is an aspirational story of Black greatness being obscured, but not gone. Also, beyond being a movie that is the first blockbuster Afro-Futurism film, Black Panther presents an alternate history Hollywood. It is at times spy thriller and sword and sandals epic. It makes motions to Nolan's Batman's movies and Lord of the Rings. It is presenting the audience an alternate timeline of what Hollywood could be. No one here is clutching pearls about the film being pro-monarchy. But now that you mention Sam Jackson, yes, there is a perfectly fine alphabet organisation they could have used instead of the CIA, it's called SHIELD. The fact that they did not, means that the choice to make Martin Freeman a CIA agent (instead of a State Dept employee like he was in the comics) was deliberate, and that makes that choice even worse It's not just the CIA thing though, the whole drat movie is just peak liberal brainrot. I acknowledge that the movie resonated with a lot of people, and I respect the effect and impact that has. But the message of the film itself is trash.
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McCloud posted:No one here is clutching pearls about the film being pro-monarchy. quote:But now that you mention Sam Jackson, yes, there is a perfectly fine alphabet organisation they could have used instead of the CIA, it's called SHIELD. The fact that they did not, means that the choice to make Martin Freeman a CIA agent (instead of a State Dept employee like he was in the comics) was deliberate, and that makes that choice even worse
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Timeless Appeal posted:Alternatively, enslaved people literally told folktales of their African ancestors having Superpowers. The whole base fantasy of a superhero is the idea of hidden greatness. That nebbish reporter is really the greatest hero in the world. That skinny kid from Brooklyn is really the bravest man you'll meet. Black Panther is appealing to the audience in the same way The People Could Fly. It is an aspirational story of Black greatness being obscured, but gone. Also, beyond being a movie that is the first blockbuster Afro-Futurism film, Black Panther presents an alternate history Hollywood. It is at times spy thriller and sword and sandals epic. It makes motions to Nolan's Batman's movies and Lord of the Rings. It is presenting the audience an alternate timeline of what Hollywood could be. What rankles me so much about it is that they use those precise virtues--evoking African tribal folklore, promoting black representation in mainstream film--in service of an actively regressive narrative. They're defanging and villainizing very real struggles for liberation across the world, and through history, as products of some kind of bullshit, naive, pathological misguided anger. Killmonger is trying to redress literal centuries of the most brutal, systematically-enacted horror you can imagine, and he's the bad guy, and Black Panther's morally righteous alternative is...what? Return some poo poo from a museum, open a community center? The film seems to paint colonialism primarily as Something That Used To Happen, instead of an actively ongoing oppression, fueled by cartoonish bigots and systems that are "merely flawed" instead of precisely engineered for the suffering they continue to inflict. Watching some racist South African prick get his head blown off is thirst-quenching, but this movie is ultimately saying that we should be looking for answers from literally the same institutions that annihilated millions of people. The CIA are the good guys? In a movie set in Africa? Are you loving kidding me? But don't worry, it's chill; they're all dorky Bilbo Baggins-looking nerd motherfuckers now. No hard feelings. Apart from the movie's own qualities, the cultural function it serves is infuriating. It's a C+ Marvel paint-by-numbers, feeding off manufactured hype stolen (and I stress on nearly every level) from a 20 year-old vampire movie, packaged and sold as ~progressive~ by the same set of aforesaid MIC ghouls, in an era where people are being savagely beaten and murdered in the streets by their own government because they dared to ask for actual progress. Asking us to pat ourselves on the back is rubbing some serious salt in the wound. As a projection of the American cultural context, it's perverse; as some kind of fantasy image of this country's role in the world, holy poo poo, now we're talking downright capital-e Evil. Aspirational is not the word. Anyways, that's why I didn't like Black Panther.
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