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ultrafilter posted:Inside the all-hands meeting that led to a third of Basecamp employees quitting Ending with quote:Another employee said they had been thrown by the fact that the founders, after years of telling employees that they were part of an elite chosen few who were good enough to work at Basecamp, would get rid of them so easily. So much in here. Snowing the employees with how amazing they are until you have to get rid of them. Techbros just wanting to be about the technology. Not wanting to manage. Basecamp / 37Signals being one of those places that was all about breaking the rules and telling everyone else how amazing they were. Extra layer is that DHH was one of the founding figures in Ruby on Rails, and even then there was this odd thing that he was technically mediocre, but held up as a visionary figure. Which may have played into RoR being so crazily uneven and putting so much stock in how revolutionary it was.
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# ? May 4, 2021 15:24 |
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I like the part where the founders have written 5 books on successfully managing employees. I mean, not their own employees. Where do you find the time to manage when you’re busy writing books about managing.
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# ? May 4, 2021 18:08 |
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Those who can, do. Those who can't write many books about how you should do things their way.
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# ? May 4, 2021 18:26 |
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Sort of like Andrew Cuomo writing a book in the middle of the pandemic about how well he handled the pandemic while he was actively hiding reports of hundreds of nursing home deaths.
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# ? May 4, 2021 18:33 |
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Silly Burrito posted:Those who can, do. the guy who wrote hollywood book "save the cat" about The Rules for screenplays only ever made two terrible films, neither of which you've ever heard of: stop! or my mom will shoot, and blank check
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# ? May 4, 2021 20:38 |
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Stexils posted:the guy who wrote hollywood book "save the cat" about The Rules for screenplays only ever made two terrible films, neither of which you've ever heard of: stop! or my mom will shoot, and blank check Speak for yourself, pal. Not only have I seen the Estelle Getty vehicle Stop or My Mom Will Shoot as late as last summer, I actually saw Blank Check in the theatre. Masterpieces...both of them!
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# ? May 4, 2021 20:46 |
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Bloopsy posted:Speak for yourself, pal. Not only have I seen the Estelle Getty vehicle Stop or My Mom Will Shoot as late as last summer, I actually saw Blank Check in the theatre. Masterpieces...both of them! I saw Stop or my mom will shoot in the theaters when I was a kid. No regrets.
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# ? May 4, 2021 20:48 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:I like the part where the founders have written 5 books on successfully managing employees. I mean, not their own employees. Or like those CEOs who write books about their business strategy, when actually it's all down to survivorship bias
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# ? May 4, 2021 21:06 |
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nonathlon posted:Or like those CEOs who write books about their business strategy, when actually it's all down to survivorship bias Most of the time the strategies aren’t even that successful long term. Jack Welch was considered a business genius, but GE almost went bankrupt 6 years after he stepped down because his playbook couldn’t handle a big economic shock.
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nonathlon posted:Or like those CEOs who write books about their business strategy, when actually it's all down to survivorship bias
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Krispy Wafer posted:Most of the time the strategies aren’t even that successful long term. Jack Welch was considered a business genius, but GE almost went bankrupt 6 years after he stepped down because his playbook couldn’t handle a big economic shock. And yet he's still held up as a business genius in b school
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# ? May 4, 2021 21:51 |
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Stexils posted:the guy who wrote hollywood book "save the cat" about The Rules for screenplays only ever made two terrible films, neither of which you've ever heard of: stop! or my mom will shoot, and blank check This is an extreme dunk on 80s kids.
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# ? May 4, 2021 22:40 |
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I worked at a video store (REMEMBER THEM), I have seen my share of lovely movies.
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# ? May 4, 2021 22:47 |
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How the hell do you write five books about management. I figure one with future editions would suffice.
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:14 |
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ultrafilter posted:https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/1388554817862348800 today was the news article where it turned out the "politics" was the alt-right C-level who spammed internal channels with Breitbart and told the black guy in the all-hands meeting NO YOU'RE THE RACIST and the co-founder backed him then a third of the company said "gently caress this" and left owning those libs, it's a calling Basecamp, formerly 1488Signals
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:10 |
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Raldikuk posted:And yet he's still held up as a business genius in b school I think his main thing was getting out of any business where GE wasn’t number 1 or number 2. So GE divested itself from a ton of stuff like home appliances and NBC. It works great when your primary products are making tons of money and your secondary products are making tons of money as you sell them off. Not great when the turbine and aircraft engine businesses hit a worldwide recession. Welch’s ideas will make you a millionaire. The key is starting off as a billionaire.
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Possible incoming circle: https://twitter.com/laurenthomas/status/1389946008734511108
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:26 |
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Anora posted:Possible incoming circle: I’ve mentioned this before but peloton was saved by COVID. They were not doing well before this poo poo started up.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:27 |
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MarcusSA posted:I’ve mentioned this before but peloton was saved by COVID. They were not doing well before this poo poo started up. yeah this really was the perfect storm for them. millions of office workers working from home
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:48 |
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MarcusSA posted:I’ve mentioned this before but peloton was saved by COVID. They were not doing well before this poo poo started up.
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# ? May 5, 2021 23:43 |
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The only thing I know about peleton is when I see their ad and the lady on their bike screen says "You crushed this Peleton!" and I cant tell if thats the name of the workout, or they call people who buy their poo poo "Pelentons". Either way I screamed and retreated into the woods.
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:23 |
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I have a Bike+ I super hosed my ankle up last year in a nasty sprain that still hasn't healed fully almost a year on, so I couldn't go out jogging anymore. The bike is nice.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:04 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:No kidding, those things are insanely expensive and they will probably go under again once the average person feels like risking a gym trip It’s not even that the equipment is expensive the “subscription fee” is nearly what most people fuckin pay for a gym anyway! 5k (or whatever) for the bike and like $50 a month just to use the drat thing.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:06 |
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MarcusSA posted:It’s not even that the equipment is expensive the “subscription fee” is nearly what most people fuckin pay for a gym anyway! I’m a wimpy dude (hence why I post here) and I signed up for Apple’s fitness thing. I actually use it, I can see home fitness having a second big thing (I assume Richard simmonds was the first wave). That said, Apple fitness is , at most $10 a month. Peloton’s prices are def insane for what is I guess a good work at home coach product , but yeah it’s pretty expensive.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:14 |
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Looking into it, the Peloton site really wants you to think that the membership is required to use the bike at all(and you are required to have one when you buy it, though you can (supposedly) cancel at any time), but you can use your bike just fine without it:https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/peloton-review-what-to-know-before-you-buy/ posted:Many people, however, are likely to be turned off by the Peloton Bike’s significant up-front cost and ongoing expense. Once you purchase the Bike itself, you need to keep paying a $39 monthly subscription fee, or you’re left with just three classes and a free-ride mode that displays only real-time data on the screen, with no leaderboard-inspired competition or any record of your efforts. Haifisch has a new favorite as of 02:32 on May 6, 2021 |
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MarcusSA posted:5k (or whatever) for the bike and like $50 a month just to use the drat thing. Still pretty expensive, but you’re exaggerating just a wee bit.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:The bikes are $1895 and there’s a lower app sub that lets you do everything but a couple things (like let a live trainer change your bike's resistance) for $13/mo. The regular sub is $40/mo, and it’s a family sub. thank god you're here to set the record straight
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:44 |
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Home fitness must be having a wave again covid related or not, because I keep seeing ads for this kinda creepy home gym mirror that reminds me of 1984.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:44 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:I think his main thing was getting out of any business where GE wasn’t number 1 or number 2. So GE divested itself from a ton of stuff like home appliances and NBC. Actually turbine and aircraft stuff was more one of the people in charge making billions of dollars of extra product wanting to make it appear the company was making tons of money and anticipation of new markets that didn't exist. He was in the running for ceo of ge and basically wanted power to appear to be in great shape. There's a reason why suddenly at the tail end of 2017 ge took a massive nose dive, and the entirety of power management was laid off or fired.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:46 |
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Turbinosamente posted:Home fitness must be having a wave again covid related or not, because I keep seeing ads for this kinda creepy home gym mirror that reminds me of 1984. you're imagining things.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:The bikes are $1895 and there’s a lower app sub that lets you do everything but a couple things (like let a live trainer change your bike's resistance) for $13/mo. The regular sub is $40/mo, and it’s a family sub. Ok yeah I’ll take the hit on the bike price but! I know at least 5 people with one of of them and they all pay the $40 and I kinda doubt they even know about that $13 price.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:54 |
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Haifisch posted:Looking into it, the Peloton site really wants you to think that the membership is required to use the bike at all(and you are required to have one when you buy it, though you can (supposedly) cancel at any time), but you can use your bike just fine without it: Exercise bike - $200 iPad - $329 Duct Tape - $5 I think I have a new idea for a product!
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:59 |
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in the vein of goods-as-a-service/internet of things tomfuckery, this made it into Cycle Asylum earlier this week: https://jalopnik.com/this-dystopian-biker-airbag-crash-vest-only-saves-your-1846823791 It's an airbag vest for motorcyclists. You can pay $12/mo or $120/year (or a $400 one-time fee) to activate it, and if you forget to, or your cell service is poo poo, or you forget to charge it, uh, oops, guess it doesn't airbag when you need it This is on top of $400 for the equipment alone. Or, you can buy a vest from a different company that costs $650 and just activates by a tether to your bike! It won't help so much if you go down and slide next to the bike, but if that happens there's a good chance you wouldn't have needed the airbag, and the company can't revoke a tether. (I guess this isn't really a "companies circling the drain" event, because Klim aren't going anywhere any time soon. They make decent if expensive motorcycle gear otherwise, especially for the BMW and KTM-riding "adventure bike" set, it's just, this is bullshit)
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# ? May 6, 2021 03:19 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Actually turbine and aircraft stuff was more one of the people in charge making billions of dollars of extra product wanting to make it appear the company was making tons of money and anticipation of new markets that didn't exist. He was in the running for ceo of ge and basically wanted power to appear to be in great shape. The GE Capital shenanigans also doesn't help... really they've been a complete disaster and are a great example of why a lot of modern business ideas are dogshit. I don't see much admission of that in the business literature though.
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# ? May 6, 2021 03:44 |
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Peloton has other exercise stuff like yoga also. It’s not all exercise bikes. No, I don’t have one. My sister tried to get me to use her account for yoga, but if I’m going to slack off and not exercise, I’ll do it with the Fitness+ account I’m already paying for.
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# ? May 6, 2021 05:05 |
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:
One of the treadmills on their page that is/was capable of eating a small child shows the following: "Starting at $4,295" I'm sure they make a cheaper bike, but that's the exception not the rule. They mostly make extremely overpriced poo poo, and took way too long admitting that their equipment can gobble up small animals and children.
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# ? May 6, 2021 06:00 |
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My boss at my last job had three peloton bikes, one for him at home, one for his wife at home, and one for wherever he was staying for work. It was possibly the most extra thing I’ve ever heard of. I don’t usually describe things as “extra” but it’s the only thing I can think of that even comes close to describing what was going on.
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# ? May 6, 2021 06:08 |
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Pretty sure you can get an exercise bike for like $50 or even free at a garage sale or something.
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FlamingLiberal posted:No kidding, those things are insanely expensive and they will probably go under again once the average person feels like risking a gym trip https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peloton-ceo-says-sales-increased-raised-prices-2245-exercise-bike-132256225.html The funny thing is that they tried to sell the bike cheaper, but it turns out that people assume expensive exercise equipment must be higher quality.
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Before the pandemic you could get some resistance pedals for under your desk from Amazon for like $18 (around $40 now).
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