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guidoanselmi posted:Nope. the update method of this game loving sucks two time i had to re download almost half of the game because something stupid happened. after that i downloaded the disco elysium steam patch and everything worked just fine i just read the news on the witcher 3 director: now we also know witcher 4 is going to suck
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codo27 posted:I'd like to see a documentary about dev culture back in the 90s compared to what its become since ~2005-7 when gaming became just another soulless money making venture I'll have to search for it, but I was reading a thread on twitter with people talking about working in game development in the 80's - one guy told a story about how a programmer he knew was worked to the point where he checked himself into a mental hospital to get a break and as soon as his boss found out he pretended to be his family to try to check him out and get him back to work. There was never a point where it wasn't a soulless money making venture.
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The entertainment industry across the world is pretty drat terrible. While there’s a screen actors guild the exploitation of all other staff on set is pretty bad and has permeated into the visual effects area. The guy that accepted the effects award for Life of Pi was shooed off of stage almost immediately after talking about his studio going into bankruptcy while they normally let every other A list actor talk about all sorts of random social issues - almost anything besides criticizing the movie and TV industry’s practices in itself (although Lupita Nyongo seems to have breached this years ago). Which leads me back to games. Games aren’t that dissimilar from movie effects studios to me as businesses it seems given what I’ve heard from behind the glitzy pixels on screen. But we don’t see the effects crews thrown under the bus as much as directors and actors in the public eye, and that makes games probably even more stressful when things go bad yet much better when you do succeed.
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Zeta Acosta posted:i just read the news on the witcher 3 director: now we also know witcher 4 is going to suck Who was seen by some as a major workplace bully. Yeah internally he was found innocent, but he still resigned and apologized which I think shows some growth at least. Which brings up an interesting question of what if sometimes major assholes are talented?
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Who was seen by some as a major workplace bully. Yeah internally he was found innocent, but he still resigned and apologized which I think shows some growth at least. If you want, look up the stuff about Chris Avellone. It caused alot of people to re-evaluate some of the writing of the games he was involved with.
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TheWorldsaStage posted:
Not to mention being better people.
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Kokoro Wish posted:If you want, look up the stuff about Chris Avellone. It caused alot of people to re-evaluate some of the writing of the games he was involved with.
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I don't care how talented they are, narcissists and bullies get the airlock.
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Zeta Acosta posted:the update method of this game loving sucks two time i had to re download almost half of the game because something stupid happened. Surely every game on Steam uses the same patching method. Or are you talking about GOG vs Steam? Roshnak fucked around with this message at 11:06 on May 5, 2021 |
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The EA Spouse letter was what, 2004?
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I hope someone will share more of the Tomaszkiewicz' bullying accusations. Hopefully we'll get someone else beside Jason Schreier to do those kind of articles, nothing against him just wish there was more people industry pros could contact with those issues.
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Bought this on sale, don't hate it. The gameplay, story, and open world are fun and interesting, which is more than can be said for GTAV. Janky, sure, but honestly less than I expected considering this is a massive open-world RPG. The Before I Play wiki doesn't have much; I have the iconic katana and pistol from the Heist so I'm planning on a basic cyborg ninja build (stealth, blades, handguns). Any first-timer tips?
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May 6, 2021 04:12
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In order to win, try to avoid dying.
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Captain Walker posted:Bought this on sale, don't hate it. The gameplay, story, and open world are fun and interesting, which is more than can be said for GTAV. Janky, sure, but honestly less than I expected considering this is a massive open-world RPG. Steal bikes, they handle better than cars. Kill every Tyger Claw and low level gang member you find. Scan em and kill em. Rack up that street cred. If you find gear that looks cool but doesn't have great stats, put some points into crafting and you can improve your gear.
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Just keep in mind that upgrading an item costs more and more material- eventually it'll be impractical to keep up with things you're finding because drops scale to your level
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Which brings up an interesting question of what if sometimes major assholes are talented? gently caress 'em. Being good at what you do and not being an rear end in a top hat is the greater talent.
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Captain Walker posted:The Before I Play wiki doesn't have much; I have the iconic katana and pistol from the Heist so I'm planning on a basic cyborg ninja build (stealth, blades, handguns). Any first-timer tips? As you level up Reflexes, keep an eye out for time dilation cyberware, slow mo is fun in this game: Synaptic Accelerator, Reflex Tuner. If you like that, ditch your deck and go full Sandevistan instead. Goes really well with Reflexes and Cool.
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codo27 posted:Soooo are the boxing missions a waste of loving time, just another broken piece of poo poo in this game? Holy gently caress, think you're well clear of an attack then the guy loving magnetizes to you directly from midair. That quest line finishes in the most lazy way possible.
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Vagabundo posted:In order to win, try to avoid dying. Just started act 2, only died once so far!  Speaking of which, is there any general utility to non-lethal takedowns, outside of specific instances? (e.g. the quest where the Buddhist monk wants you to rescue his brother without murder)
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Vagabundo posted:In order to win, try to avoid dying. This post is underrated.
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Tenzarin posted:That quest line finishes in the most lazy way possible. I know you didn't mean this personally (probably?) but man, "lazy"? Really? I dunno how people read about a compressed development and years of crunch and the best explanation they can think of for something they don't like is laziness. I dunno, seems like a lazy assumption.
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Alchenar posted:This post is underrated. MAybe in 1992.
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Captain Walker posted:Just started act 2, only died once so far!  Captain Walker posted:Speaking of which, is there any general utility to non-lethal takedowns, outside of specific instances? (e.g. the quest where the Buddhist monk wants you to rescue his brother without murder) Some gigs require "discretion," (i.e., the client wants a zero body count), and you can get bonus eddies from the fixer.
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:I know you didn't mean this personally (probably?) but man, "lazy"? Really? I dunno how people read about a compressed development and years of crunch and the best explanation they can think of for something they don't like is laziness. The grand champion boxing match of the streets that takes place in public in the cyber city of the future takes place at a run down mall and the ring ropes are not even up. In fact the ring ropes are just laying on the ground because they reused the run down mall because the game is a rushed pile of trash.  Yes, this quest line is a text book example of a lazy quest, in a game of nothing but lazy quests after the prologue. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 09:37 on May 6, 2021 |
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Tenzarin posted:The grand champion boxing match of the streets that takes place in public in the cyber city of the future takes place at a run down mall and the ring ropes are not even up. oh christ
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And thinking about this quest line really makes me wonder why your coach is/acts like V's friend but he sets V up for the worst matched fights ever. Like some of the fights are way out of V's weight class. And I can't even understand why this fighter would need to prove themselves on the street again. Or even that having the fighter beat up scrawny rear end V would even prove anything. All I can think of it's like Kimbo Slice getting named the street fighting champion via youtube after he beats up two fat guys at a boat supply yard in Miami. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 10:39 on May 6, 2021 |
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Coach think he's sending the V with hydraulic fists to each boxing match, not the V with the rice noodle arms and hacking mods.
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cyberpunk 2077: kimbo slice life simulator
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The laziest aspect of this game IMO is the absence of voice recordings. Even when you find files labeled “archived conversation” it’s just text. I don’t expect everything to be audio but some lore-content here and there with voice acting would be fun. Even Fallout 4 did that. I’m guessing it’s due to file size more than anything else.
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BigglesSWE posted:The laziest aspect of this game IMO is the absence of voice recordings. Even when you find files labeled “archived conversation” it’s just text. OK so what I mean when I say that "laziness" is a lazy and almost always wrong criticism... like, how much do you think VO costs? Can you not think of a single reason why all the text doesn't have full VO than laziness? I mean, that's hundreds and hundreds of hours of studio time, plus editing, plus the added difficulty that once you have the VO, rewrites become much harder, so now you have a production issue (VO needs to come late enough in the project so that there's time to do rewrites, but the entire project keeps moving so who knows when "late enough" is). Or the thing about putting the ropes at the gym up (jfc), how long do you think it takes to do? If it were a hollywood set it would take 10m. But it's not, those ropes are static meshes, so someone needs to make static mesh versions of the ropes, that takes time, then someone needs to put them in, that takes time, then someone needs to make it so that you can climb over them, that takes more time. And then you have the issue of the static mesh ropes not really looking very good when you bump into them, shouldn't they move? Maybe they should respond to physics, well now everything becomes exponentially more complex because they aren't static anymore, they react to the world, which means it's easier for them to break and takes much longer to make and test. You have a problem with re-used locations? Do you have any idea how long it takes to make a location like that, to implement on it, to *test* it. Everything has a cost, *everything*, and it's vastly more than you imagine. Laziness. *Not all of this is directed at the quoted post, I hope that's clear
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Yeah it totally makes sense to add 400 hours of “hey choom you get the stuff?” audio to the game, that will definitely help with my immersion
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I guess ya’ll missed when I said I didn’t expect everything to have VA. Just something here and there, sprinkled throughout would make wonders, I think. This isn’t rocket science: most games don’t have VA for every log entry or whatever. But a lot of the games that include some amount of lore writing (Prey, Dishonored franchise, Fallout, to mention a few) have a select instances of them throughout the game. I expected something like that in this game and didn’t get it. Not game ruining, not even close, but I was disappointed. BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 6, 2021 |
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BigglesSWE posted:I guess ya’ll missed when I said I didn’t expect everything to have VA. That's a much better way to say it than to ascribe it to laziness. No part of this game or any other should be free from criticism, and personally, I'd have loved to have more VO for the shards. I didn't fail include VO for them because I couldn't be bothered, and I think it's bullshit to say so. As they say in therapy, use your "I" statements. *I'm being a little flippant but there's no animosity here, I don't really take it personally when I see that, it's just a long-running gripe I have with games discourse.
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The game wasn't lazy. It was poorly designed, cdpr oversold it to death, they legit lied about how bad ran on current hardware and launched straight up broken.
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The voice acting is truly horrendous, as if all the lines were recorded independent of each other with no context.quote:If you're playing a pc game, then your main character will be some utterly generic, homogenized boring guy voiced by the same jackass who reads out movie previews:
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The voice acting has some weird changes in audio volume and intonations. Probably they were recording things to the last minute. Another lie cdpr told Is that the game was finished in April 2020. I wonder what they had at that point
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Zephro posted:Counterpoint: the voice acting seems mostly fine to me compared to W3 its a huge step down, same for like facial animations and poo poo. everyone still mentions the moment yen's heart breaks if you reject her, or geralt's reaction to finding ciri. that ain't in this game. its not like, andromeda bad or anything, but just like every other part of the game, all of the soul got ripped out Zeta Acosta posted:The voice acting has some weird changes in audio volume and intonations. Probably they were recording things to the last minute. a sketchpad that had drawings about wallrunning
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This game work best in the character moments . Hopefully the DLCs are short storys with intimate moments between V and other characters. The open world setting was the death kiss of this game
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