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Sankara posted:You know what's way more heroic than fighting villains, mushroom girl? Feeding the hungry! Mushrooms are tasty and very good for you, if she can spawn them with, let's be real here, magic, she's in the wrong field! There was a throwaway line about the mushrooms disappearing after an hour or so. What happens an hour after I've eaten a delicious mushroom ragu? Is this just bulimia without the messy part?
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# ? May 2, 2021 06:52 |
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Sankara posted:You know what's way more heroic than fighting villains, mushroom girl? Feeding the hungry! Mushrooms are tasty and very good for you, if she can spawn them with, let's be real here, magic, she's in the wrong field! Eej posted:I uh, do you know anything about infectious diseases? Because an uncontrolled fungal infection in your lungs is Extremely Bad. This is about as bad as if you had telekinesis and you used it to pinch cerebral arteries to knock people out.
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# ? May 2, 2021 07:14 |
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I assume she can also get rid of them manually because I would think that a mushroom stuck in someone's windpipe for a few hours would probably cause problems.
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# ? May 2, 2021 07:16 |
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Pakled posted:And Kaminari would probably do more good for the world just generating clean energy for public use forever than being a hero. ah yes, the firepunch style of societal planning
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# ? May 2, 2021 07:16 |
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I dunno if "a medium sized farm" is really that high value, society already has farms. Being able to do it more efficiently or whatever is cool but idk what the plan to do more good that route is, just have a farm but all the food is donated towards the needy? Like that's probably more useful than being a cop but she isn't going to single handedly end hunger Kaminari potentially just being a solar panel farm is basically the same thing. Like society could just build solar panel farms, but they don't, and creating some way for kaminari to feed the power grid personally would probably run into similar issues as real world green energy sources with getting the local power grid to let him jack in
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# ? May 2, 2021 08:23 |
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This is just making me think of that parody comic where Superman becomes a battery until he dies and is then remembered as a previously useful form of now antiquated energy. Also reminding me how Momo can in fact create anything she wants, and it sticks around. But she doesn't because it would "ruin the economy."
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# ? May 2, 2021 08:54 |
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Kaminari doesn't really have that much output either, he definitely wouldn't last long enough to keep a single household going for one day before running out of juice. If anything people with useful quirks would probably do something like what firebenders in Korra did, get paid to do a couple shifts at the power plant zapping capacitors in your spare time.
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# ? May 2, 2021 09:28 |
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Nephthys posted:Pre-season 3 All for One at least strongly suspected that Deku possessed One for All and could very easily have found out his address and sent Kurogiri to kidnap him in his sleep with no way to track him.
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# ? May 2, 2021 09:46 |
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FilthyImp posted:I'm also annoyed at how "omg ew mushrooms" basically took down 3/4 of the team despite them being an annoyance at best for 99% of the fight. Yeah I understand why they couldn't animate it fully but for reference this was the mushroom spam in the manga: It's a bit more crazy. The mushrooms mainly just neutralized Invisiblegirl since it was hard for her to move around and she got completely covered in them. It also gave Vantablack plenty of options to hide and distracted Tokoyami enough that he couldn't really do anything. Jackard posted:All for One would never kidnap his own son. Also the real reason Aoyama/Hagakure were useless in this match is because he/she is the traitor. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 10:24 on May 2, 2021 |
# ? May 2, 2021 10:21 |
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The mushroom power is just too broad in implications to be used in this kind of show without raising an eyebrow---had she led with hallucinogenics, even beyond poisonous or the airway obstructors, the fight would've ended there. Or, as with similar inherent mechanical problems with shows or games that give somebody roughly a Conjure Flame equivalent---manifest them essentially directly upon the opposition's eyeballs while making eye contact and that's the end of that. Momo's character just keeps winding up weird as it seems almost like they are trying to straddle her between being a hero and doing the more perhaps logical thing of being a support engineer like Hatsumei, only capable of creating artifact levels of personalized gear in theory. Load her up with some bizarre super macro nutrient concoction(the soldier pills Naruto Forgot, etc) not unlike Sugarman's pre-buffs and have her team armed to the gills on top of whatever comes up later.
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# ? May 2, 2021 13:35 |
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Jesus with the mushroom girl! Let's just fill someone's lungs with fungus to win a sparring match. I guess Bakugo isn't the only "How are you not a villain" at UA.
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# ? May 2, 2021 14:18 |
Her making high tech goggles that can heatvision enemies at range raises questions as to why she isn't popping things like that out for everyone.
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# ? May 2, 2021 14:27 |
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socialsecurity posted:Her making high tech goggles that can heatvision enemies at range raises questions as to why she isn't popping things like that out for everyone.
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# ? May 2, 2021 16:11 |
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I got the impression originally when this happened in the manga that was simultaneously development and a setback for Momo. Momo's previous problem was choice paralysis- she couldn't think fast enough in the sports festival to win, and froze up fighting Aizawa. She's confident in her PLANS now and executes them, but the flaw that brought her down was thinking she couldn't take Kendo in a 1v1. Momo sacrifices herself to help the team and stall Kendo, but the real PLUS ULTRA thing to do would've been to square up with her and win anyway. Kendo saying she didn't feel like she really won is kinda lame, but I guess the idea there is just that they had to use simple brute force to win with Kendo dragging Momo and a cannon around and Kinoko just loving choking Tokoyami out. Kinoko choking out Tokoyami is kinda messed up but I think using toxic or magic mushrooms on everyone would probably be magnitudes more dangerous to everyone. Also I think the ones she used on Tokoyami are a fungus that specifically can grow in your throat/lungs, which is something most mushrooms cannot do. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 2, 2021 |
# ? May 2, 2021 17:44 |
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They made a big deal in the license exam about how much people were being inspired by Deku but at no point did she consider securing a victory by shattering her bones smh
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# ? May 2, 2021 17:48 |
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ExiledTinkerer posted:The mushroom power is just too broad in implications to be used in this kind of show without raising an eyebrow---had she led with hallucinogenics, even beyond poisonous or the airway obstructors, the fight would've ended there. Or, as with similar inherent mechanical problems with shows or games that give somebody roughly a Conjure Flame equivalent---manifest them essentially directly upon the opposition's eyeballs while making eye contact and that's the end of that. Her mushroom spores have to actually get on things to grow.
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# ? May 2, 2021 18:04 |
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Even if it's 100% safe and non-lethal, throat/lung mushrooms is a level of body horror that I'd expect to see an inquiry on if you used it on a villain, let alone a student (although I'd wager MHA Japan has very few protections for villains). It does fit in with the very lax standards the rest of the series has though, like Eraserhead not expelling Izuku the first day because actually, breaking a finger every time you use your quirk (without any sort of regeneration) does in fact mean you have no hero potential. Either he's had it for most of his life like everyone else, in which case obviously it's completely useless because he'd never stop breaking his bones, or they know he didn't have it until the entrance exam in which case not training him to stop crippling himself is criminally negligent. Or even, you know, therapy for this insane kid who keeps mutilating himself to pass school tests. I think part of the weird feeling about these class fights is they previously made a big deal about how 1A had the hesitation beat out of them by repeated exposure to villains, to the point where they are out engaging in actual heroics...but then these pop up and they are suddenly very hesitant while 1B is managing to both be decisive and create elaborate plans.
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# ? May 2, 2021 18:10 |
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I guess the PLUUUUUS UUULTRAAAA for that would be that Class A has hero potential since they don't, in fact, resort to Tokiyami Dark Suffocating everyone, Never Stop Shining and Invisigal blinding everyone, etc, and deal with the threat pretty normally. "Hey threats aren't neutralized when you capture them" was kind of apparent with Stain and the Nomu, but Class A definitely feels like it's holding back since they've faced actual deadly threats, while B throws everything they can at them.
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# ? May 2, 2021 20:33 |
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Pakled posted:And Kaminari would probably do more good for the world just generating clean energy for public use forever than being a hero. It doesn't seem like he can make very much, I think shocking some baddies is a reasonable use of his time. Perhaps a side gig where he fills batteries or something. oh jay posted:There was a throwaway line about the mushrooms disappearing after an hour or so. What happens an hour after I've eaten a delicious mushroom ragu? Is this just bulimia without the messy part? Ah, I didn't catch that. You raise an interesting point, though! Perhaps magic grown mushrooms, with no nutrients to feed on, also taste terrible and are not beneficial? Like the Mob Psycho 100 philosophy, psychically grown muscles aren't as good as working hard!
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:41 |
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Sankara posted:It doesn't seem like he can make very much, I think shocking some baddies is a reasonable use of his time. Perhaps a side gig where he fills batteries or something. I'm pretty sure all of his friends make him charge their phones, so he can do that much at least.
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:45 |
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Going by the second movie both Momo and Kaminari would do amazingly as part of any type of aid effort that involves extremely devastated areas.
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:56 |
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Rhonne posted:I'm pretty sure all of his friends make him charge their phones, so he can do that much at least. It costs less than a dollar a year in electricity to charge your cell phone. The ability to charge phones is not very impressive on an industrial scale.
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:59 |
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FWIW based on what one of the villains in the USJ arc says, electric type heroes are relatively rare because there’s such a strong demand for them on the job market instead
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# ? May 2, 2021 22:04 |
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I don't care about any of these characters they just introduced and I suspect they will never matter again why are we spending multiple episodes on these fights? When do we get to the goddam fireworks factory. Jesus.
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# ? May 3, 2021 04:26 |
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Not Keyser Soze posted:I don't care about any of these characters they just introduced and I suspect they will never matter again why are we spending multiple episodes on these fights? When do we get to the goddam fireworks factory. Jesus. I care about some of these dumb idiots like the idiots in 1-A and I hope they'll keep showing up and giving their support.
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# ? May 3, 2021 04:35 |
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Not Keyser Soze posted:I don't care about any of these characters they just introduced and I suspect they will never matter again why are we spending multiple episodes on these fights? When do we get to the goddam fireworks factory. Jesus. We actually already met them all.
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# ? May 3, 2021 04:55 |
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This is like the second or third time we've met them all. And they do kinda matter.
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# ? May 4, 2021 08:29 |
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My stance on Momo is that she gets the focus because she does legitimately get better each time, but it's a slow growth (to contrast Izuku smashing every ceiling he can). It's unfortunate that they keep talking her up, but speaking as someone who was gifted in school this kind of happens in real life. People with high natural intelligence getting talked up, only to choke and fail at every actual test they take, but the teachers know they've got this skill and capability so they just keep pushing and working on how to get around the choking. That's almost literally what's going on in the vs teacher fight in fact, helping Momo become self-confident in her plans and skills and intelligence. Largely I suspect her issue is that because she spends a lot of time memorising all the combinations of items to make she doesn't spend enough time actually training for straight on fighting, and she needs a lot more actual 1 on 1 fight training both with a variety of weapons she can produce and tactics she can use without having to stop or consider sacrificing herself the optimal solution. Heh, choking. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 10:08 on May 4, 2021 |
# ? May 4, 2021 10:05 |
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If you guys like mushrooms then you should checkout Dorohedoro anime (its on netflix for Australians). The boss En has mushroom magic, if he loses control mushrooms explode and consume everything. https://www.reddit.com/r/Dorohedoro/comments/f85kun/just_finished_the_manga_and_had_to_draw_mushroom/ Dude eats his own mushrooms. Anyway I really liked Shinso (brain washing dude). He's going to absolutely destroy everyone in the future. His quirk really needs to be kept a secret and a cover quirk needs to be created for him.
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# ? May 5, 2021 08:13 |
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Suspicious Lump posted:Anyway I really liked Shinso (brain washing dude). He's going to absolutely destroy everyone in the future. His quirk really needs to be kept a secret and a cover quirk needs to be created for him. He reached the high rounds in the Sports Festival so the cat's pretty much out of the bag on that one. But the cool thing about his new voice changing abilities is it makes his quirk useful even when villains know about it. As demonstrated in the first 1-A vs 1-B fight, when the enemy knows about his quirk, it breaks down their communication because they're afraid to respond to anything they think their allies are saying. He needs to improve his fighting skills but he'll be an absolute terror if/when he does.
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# ? May 5, 2021 15:18 |
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Makes me wonder what training his brainwashing entails. After all, "being responded to" is a bit of a philosophical question, no? "Haha, I'm so good at brainwashing now that all I have to do is get you to look at me!"
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# ? May 5, 2021 23:52 |
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He learns sign language so that movement itself becomes a response
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:06 |
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Increasing the number of people he can control at once maybe?
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# ? May 6, 2021 00:24 |
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More complex commands or firmer control probably since presumably it's not a binary power like Eraserhead's where it's either applied or not applied.
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# ? May 6, 2021 02:58 |
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NikkolasKing posted:This is just making me think of that parody comic where Superman becomes a battery until he dies and is then remembered as a previously useful form of now antiquated energy. Real talk how is iron man. It a villain since he has a source of infinity energy but doesn’t give it away and make the earth a paradise
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# ? May 6, 2021 23:42 |
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Tabletops posted:Real talk how is iron man. It a villain since he has a source of infinity energy but doesn’t give it away and make the earth a paradise One of the running background plots in Iron Man movies is him trying to figure out how to provide clean power to the world without setting everyone up with the ability to set off nuclear grade explosions at will. From the fact Stark Industries is still incredibly successful despite completely abandoning its primary line of business, and from how we don't see many people in the films talking about the need for clean power sources, it suggests that he's made pretty good progress on that line.
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# ? May 7, 2021 02:01 |
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Isn’t that literally part of his plot in the first Avengers?
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# ? May 7, 2021 02:30 |
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christmas boots posted:Isn’t that literally part of his plot in the first Avengers? People can be forgiven for not watching any of the Avengers e: in fact they should be lauded
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# ? May 7, 2021 04:39 |
christmas boots posted:Isn’t that literally part of his plot in the first Avengers? no, the only reference to that I remember is him cutting stark tower off the city power grid so he can run it himself
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# ? May 7, 2021 07:23 |
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:no, the only reference to that I remember is him cutting stark tower off the city power grid so he can run it himself I thought it was supposed to be some sort of proof-of-concept that he could power stark tower with the totally clean arc-reactor energy. And then there's the subplot with SHIELD where supposedly they were studying the tesseract for that purpose as well but were actually making weapons.
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# ? May 7, 2021 08:59 |