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Why is anyone advocating voting Solus Like is there a case or are a bunch of people just going "hey let's vote out our vig who is steadly growing more reliable for no reason"
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# ? May 7, 2021 23:56 |
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AT-LOW posted:Why is anyone advocating voting Solus Two prongs on the solus case: 1) How they chose the vig shot shields them from any introspection on how the shot was chosen. By leaving it to randomness he can't be blamed if he shoots a townie because lol random. The hip shot part doesn't come into it at all for me, just the target choice (even leaving aside the fact that I know the target was town) 2) How he followed Toalps comment on the possibility of no scum or a 3p only setup.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:01 |
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AT-LOW posted:Why is anyone advocating voting Solus And we should never not vote out someone purely based on role in a WIFOA as role is 100% not indicative of alignment this game. Just because they chose cop or doc or whatever doesn't inform their alignment at all, and even more so in this case where scum would absolutely love a vig (so would town because pew pew), but that his power growing more reliable shouldn't change the calculus on a Solus vote at all
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:03 |
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AT-LOW posted:Why is anyone advocating voting Solus Shooting immediately from the hip, particularly randomly, feels like an effort to hide scumminess behind whackiness.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:14 |
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Wait gently caress I had a whole thing typed up but I just realized I might be wrong, let me recheck the rules
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:18 |
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Voodoofly posted:Also, there may be situations where a player asks you to do something unusual. As such, there is NO STRICT RULE about posting actions in thread or in your confessional. On the other hand, if I think anyone is doing something just to be a jerk I'll modkill them. Use your judgment. Inquisitive actions are allowed although might be ignored. Tricking someone to post something is allowed so long as I can determine even a remotely decent reason to do it. Joke fake actions will be applauded or punished depending on how good they are. Please don't make me explain this further or change this rule. Well I
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:24 |
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Okay, so as to not ask for an explanation, I will assume that the action was real given that it was neither applauded nor punished
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:25 |
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Under this assumption, we can say that Solus has a role with an unreliable daykill Solus is therefore either a) a firing squad b) a lying faulty vig c) a lying mystery role with an unreliable daykill Firing Squad is by far the most likely assumption, so let's go with that Under this assumption, Solus is a firing squad and all the world knows it In that case, unless the case is very compelling, why not simply pressure Solus to use the remaining shot attempts in a boring, but pro-town way? Basically, a proven ?-shot unreliable dayvig is at town's disposal, and I think that makes that vote a lower-priority one I am not at all compelled by the "evidence" against Solus and have no real interest in wasting the resource that Solus represents based on one chaos move at the start of day 1
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:38 |
I agree with that analysis At-Low. At least for today. One question about firing squad cabinet, would Solus need to “retrieve” a gun first at night or do ya reckon he started with one? I’m not sure it matters just didn’t know
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:41 |
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That said I would like Solus to post more because this ISO is basically exclusively content related to the dayvig attempt
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:43 |
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Sandwolf posted:I agree with that analysis At-Low. At least for today. One question about firing squad cabinet, would Solus need to “retrieve” a gun first at night or do ya reckon he started with one? My understanding of Firing Squad is as follows There are 5 guns in the cabinet. 1 is loaded. As a day action: you may fire 1 random gun from the cabinet. As a night action: you may discard 1 unloaded gun from the cabinet.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:44 |
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In other words, assuming the night action is used successfully each night, tomorrow the shot will have a 60% chance of success, and the next day it will have a 100% chance of success.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:45 |
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Wait no that's not math
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:46 |
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33% then 100% lol
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:47 |
I refuse to read or understand numbers but I will accept your understanding.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:50 |
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well, this is what i get for being nocturnal. discord was down when i woke up so i dont even know my role lmao
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:58 |
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hey voodoofly, can u PM me my role pls
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:00 |
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AlsoGrandicap posted:Alex WHO SENT YOU
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:03 |
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AT-LOW posted:Also It's your name is discord when you join initially. You are stuck in my brain as Alex now, I can't explain it.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:04 |
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AT-LOW posted:Also Or, I'm you from the future. Don't make the same mistakes I did.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:05 |
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i am going to assume that solus had a faulty vig and that he is town alligned
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:08 |
Mr. Steak posted:i am going to assume that solus had a faulty vig and that he is town alligned regardless, it can be ascertained tomorrow
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:09 |
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dy. posted:If you're gonna prematurely vig someone at least have it be for a reason and not based on random.org. At least save it for someone who you think is scummy. i agree, but solus gonna solus
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:11 |
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Mr. Steak posted:i am going to assume that solus had a faulty vig and that he is town alligned I can accept the former, why the latter?
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:11 |
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Mr. Steak posted:i am going to assume that solus had a faulty vig and that he is town alligned Steak please at least read Solus's claim lol Grandicap posted:It's your name is discord when you join initially. You are stuck in my brain as Alex now, I can't explain it. Yeah it's fine, I go by Alex normally it was just funny to see it
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:12 |
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CCKeane posted:Phrasing feels very careful and "Grandicap has at least one BP" feels particularly strange. actually kind of agreeing with this point.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:12 |
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Grandicap posted:I can accept the former, why the latter? because ive landed on the side of wifom that says he's town for it
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:12 |
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btw i have my role pm now, all is good
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:20 |
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Mr. Steak posted:btw i have my role pm now, all is good ##vote steak
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:22 |
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AT-LOW posted:Under this assumption, we can say that Solus has a role with an unreliable daykill Feels like you're assuming Solus is town with this.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:30 |
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CCKeane posted:Feels like you're assuming Solus is town with this. To be more precise, I am refraining from assuming that Solus is scum.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:38 |
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AT-LOW posted:To be more precise, I am refraining from assuming that Solus is scum.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:41 |
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AT-LOW posted:To be more precise, I am refraining from assuming that Solus is scum. Right, but Solus used his ability in an anti town way.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:43 |
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dy. posted:So first of all, can we please not reveal the role choices of other players? This is not a good move. I hope you are playing 4D chess and didn't actually choose mason since you are relatively high on the role draft list. i agree with this, up until you call sandwolf scum for it. its really easy to believe that he just didnt think that far ahead before posting
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:54 |
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Sandwolf posted:No? First post I told everyone what I was going to pick and I stuck with that. This feels like forced hand-wringing, I’m not even sure you think I’m scum. You think I’m forcing a town mentality early on D1 by bringing a somewhat jokey, somewhat serious point to the attention of thread? idk what dy's specific issue was, but the thing i was agreeing with, was not that you claimed your own role, but that you outed several other players as potentially having more valuable roles than mason. which i dont need to explain why thats bad
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:56 |
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My role is role looker and I looked at Steaks role and it just says the word "butts" over and over. Possible farter?
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:58 |
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dy. posted:"oh cool, now I know that I don't have to worry about Sandwolf being one of the roles that can bust me but there's a good chance that Grandicap or Toalpaz could be" ah ok, so yes i was agreeing with him
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:58 |
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Ah gently caress it's Solus AND Grand I think.
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:00 |
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Sandwolf posted:Grandi’s posts about not picking mason are in this drat thread for everyone to read. so are toalpaz's posts about picking mason. im not saying you had ill intent (who it seems that's what dy is saying) but i certainly understand dy's point. however, dy, let it go lol
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:01 |
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*who --> tho
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