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learnincurve posted:To cure your fear of needles why not simply wake up with an IV line in the back of your hand connected to the bag replacing all your blood! Worked for me! Yeah, I hated shots of all types. I would get very close to unconsciousness, even with a flu shot. Then, I had heart surgery, and all that fear disappeared like magic. It's pretty cool how when you're subject to a needle poke, somewhere on your body, on an hourly basis, how quickly you forget you were even scared of shots before. Oh final Pfizer trip report. I got my second shot exactly one month ago. The side effects of the second were just like the first. Sore arm, and lethargy for the rest of that day. No fever, or any other weirdness. The arm soreness stuck around for about 3 days. I'm free. Looking forward to catching up on lots I missed in 2020.
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Der Kyhe posted:https://www.reuters.com/business/he...ine-2021-05-07/ quote:The regulator said GBS was identified as a possible adverse event that needed to be specifically monitored during the vaccine's conditional approval process, adding it had requested more detailed data on the cases from AstraZeneca. That explains all the new mods lately
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May 7, 2021 19:37
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My father was elected to city council and was writing an article to address vaccine hesitancy. He uploaded a draft of his article outlining the safety of vaccines for peer review and before he even published the article he got an e-mail from an anti-vaxxer. This can only be a bot. The draft must have been publicly searchable so the bot found the article and fired off a dissenting e-mail before the article was even published. Here is the e-mail in all it's incoherent glory.  Assume the google drive links are viruses quote:E-mail: jaxon.wayn75@yahoo.com We already know the russians have been attacking the US with anti-vax propaganda since before covid.
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May 7, 2021 20:14
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Well the good news is that if they got wrecked by Dose 1 they probably already had COVID, and they will have a very robust immune response from 1 COVID + 1 mrna vax!! Nah, that is not supported by any evidence I'm aware of. The only real bright spot is that at least 1 dose of mRNA vaccine does provide a level of protection against the virus.
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May 7, 2021 20:17
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You'd think that, due to each jab being exactly the same, the FIRST one where you don't already have a potent immune response would be worse. That's probably a total misunderstanding of the science though
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May 7, 2021 20:27
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Nah, that is not supported by any evidence I'm aware of. The only real bright spot is that at least 1 dose of mRNA vaccine does provide a level of protection against the virus. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924304/ Indications are a single dose is roughly equivalent to a covid infection.
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Detheros posted:36 hours after my J&J shot and it's kicking my rear end, mostly fatigue and muscle soreness but jeez that shift at work was rough, this must be the 5g installing firmware. 51 hours in and I feel a lot better than last night, mostly some slight soreness all around and some arm pain but not much more than I normally deal with. My mental health meanwhile has skyrocked, I was mostly a shut-in pre covid but after getting my shot there was this immense sense of relief that made me realize just how stressed I've been over the past year. Feels great! 
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May 7, 2021 23:42
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I wonder if people who got only one shot and wimped out will be less subject to original antigenic sin if they later get mRNA-1273.351 or another vaccine targeting a mutant spike. It is of course a foolish thing to do, but I’m curious.
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May 7, 2021 23:50
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I had to get my roof done today because when it rained, there was a waterfall down my chimney and the paint started peeling near it. Let me let you guess how many people turned up with masks and/or have worn them near me/when showing up at my door to knock (because I'm trying to stay out of their way). They've been here all day and they're doing a fantastic job, but drat, you can't even yank a bullshit gaiter up? Come on  So, I'm masking up for the rest of the night when I'm anywhere outside my house, keeping windows shut, and whatnot. And hopefully if anyone is infected, it's too dead to try to get me through my vaccine tomorrow morning.
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May 7, 2021 23:52
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I'm picking up bar food for dinner and in the bar to pay and grab it. lmao, I'm fully vaccinated but this is insane. Just loud, maskless shouting old dudes everywhere. Gonna get delivery next time.
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May 8, 2021 00:30
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I don't think we'll ever be able to truly forget how much spittle and associated juices from the people around us that we are sucking down at all times
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May 8, 2021 00:45
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dwarf74 posted:I'm picking up bar food for dinner and in the bar to pay and grab it. Serves me right I guess.
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May 8, 2021 01:04
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dwarf74 posted:lmao my kid got a moldy burger bun. Thank u 4 supparting are small business!!!! God bles
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May 8, 2021 02:23
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BBQ Dave posted:and I have permanent stankface, all my facial composure is gone. When I'm out in the world my mouth is either set to "hard determined line" or war grimace. I have Judge Dredd mouth, and must hide it. I hate that I relate to this.
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Gologle posted:I hate that I relate to this. I've always called it "Resting Spree Shooter Face"
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May 8, 2021 03:06
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Detheros posted:51 hours in and I feel a lot better than last night, mostly some slight soreness all around and some arm pain but not much more than I normally deal with. I got my vaccine back in February and my mental health changed overnight, especially since most people weren’t able to get it yet i think I felt it even more
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May 8, 2021 03:30
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About a day and a half ish after my second shot and my arm definitely hurts more maybe 3x as much just to estimate. I did stupid exercises in the 15 minute waiting area, so not sure if it did anything or not. Not sure but there may be a good bit of fatigue because I took a nap from 5pm to 10pm ish. But that could also be that I didn't sleep well or long from arm pain last night. 8/10 would vax a third time. Gologle posted:I hate that I relate to this. Sounds like I have always been. I swear my grandmother was right that my face would stick that way. My eyebrows make me perpetually look angry - 2 little skin "dimples" at either side of my nose next to the brows. But it could also be that I just am always angry
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May 8, 2021 03:33
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Yeah once you're fully vaxxed its a tremendous sense of relief. That black cloud of anxiety over the miasma of illness and death lurking everywhere just disappears. You survived the pandemic. Even if you don't really do much extra, as if by magic the worry is gone. Things do get much better, people are able to overcome great obstacles. Even the british, who somehow did a worse job than the US of responding to the pandemic, have been able to end it with half-measure vaccination.
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May 8, 2021 04:21
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Got my first shot today, and the most interesting part was the bandage. It was a circular pad with a clear membrane they gave the shot through. It seems like it is something relatively new, so it was probably one of those things that owes their success to Covid.
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May 8, 2021 04:47
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edgeman83 posted:Got my first shot today, and the most interesting part was the bandage. It was a circular pad with a clear membrane they gave the shot through. It seems like it is something relatively new, so it was probably one of those things that owes their success to Covid. They've existed for a few years now, but yeah they're nice.
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May 8, 2021 04:56
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Because of COVID I learned that my upper arm is too hairy to stick a bandaid on.
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hakimashou posted:Yeah once you're fully vaxxed its a tremendous sense of relief. That black cloud of anxiety over the miasma of illness and death lurking everywhere just disappears. You survived the pandemic. I got a booking for a vaccinated person's funeral today. He was younger than I am and got unlucky enough to be a breakthrough case. He's number 400. I'm done for a while on Monday. I'm giddy for the vaccines but this cloud isn't going away until that death count is way, way lower (for me, anyhow). We still see a lot of cases and a lot of deaths every day, but there are days it goes the right direction. Better than nothing.
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May 8, 2021 05:05
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withak posted:Because of COVID I learned that my upper arm is too hairy to stick a bandaid on. Have you never received any other shots? I learned that many years ago when getting routine vaccinations.
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May 8, 2021 05:07
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binge crotching posted:Have you never received any other shots? I learned that many years ago when getting routine vaccinations. For flu shots they usually just give me a patch of gauze to hold there for a minute. In hindsight, this is possibly because they knew that a bandaid wouldn't work. Maybe the Covid shot lady was running on automatic with the bandaids.
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May 8, 2021 05:10
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They didn't have bandaids where I got my shot lol
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May 8, 2021 05:55
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Picnic Princess posted:They didn't have bandaids where I got my shot lol How did they keep all the 5G from leaking out?
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May 8, 2021 05:57
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The 5G doesn't kick in until 2 weeks after the 2nd shot.
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May 8, 2021 05:59
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Picnic Princess posted:They didn't have bandaids where I got my shot lol They gave me one after the first shot but the second one was like "welp, you're done baiiii".
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May 8, 2021 06:48
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At 16 hours after my second shot. My arm started hurting a couple hours after getting it but it hasn’t gotten worse and hurts less than the first one. I got super tired during the afternoon but couldn’t really sleep. Been alternating between being warm and having the chills. Have had a few hours of sleep off and on but nothing substantial. I just feel wiped out.
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May 8, 2021 07:20
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Aardvark! posted:I get my second Moderna shot next Thursday. Speaking of which, I always hear about second shot side effects from Pfizer getters. Is Moderna the same in that regard? I had a sore arm and a couple days later noticed a blotch of reddish skin near the injection site that went away after a few days, but the other effects were pretty mild because I got vaccinated in the late afternoon and was asleep 12 hours later when they hit. I had a low fever, chills, and briefly felt like my bones hurt and I was crawling out of my skin. Then I took two Tylenol and fell back asleep. Whenever I started feeling bad I took a Tylenol. I was surprised at how mild it seemed. There were people claiming that they were knocked down for a whole day but that wasn’t my experience.
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May 8, 2021 08:16
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I've felt completely miserable after a flu shot like 5 years ago but no other vaccine since then gave me any side effects besides a sore arm. Both pfizer shots were fine.
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So, remember how we have been told repeatedly that a huge proportion of infected people don't even experience symptoms yet still keep spreading the virus? Some interesting results out of two Swedish studies this week. Machine translated article with links to the study results. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ny-undersokning-nastan-alla-smittade-far-symptom posted:Study shows 95% of all sampled infected showed symptoms, eventually Basically, a cohort study where they polled 4000 people before testing, when testing and a week after testing. Two things to take away: - When following a checklist for specific symptoms, people tend to answer "yes" to a higher extent than when just asked "are you feeling ill at the moment" - The sample size is small but it seems to indicate that the number of asymptomatic spreaders could be overestimated - they may have just been pre-symptomatic. It's a fine distinction to make, but we were told by the same authority mid-2020 that "as many as 9 out of 10 could be asymptomatic and still shed the virus" which seems may have been very very wrong. Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 13:02 on May 8, 2021 |
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Yeah the true asymptomatic rate isn’t ninety percent. It’s probably under a third. What are the implications? Asymptomatic versus presymptomatic versus paucisymptomatic is a distinction without a difference to most people. What matters is that it’s possible to spread the virus without believing oneself to be unwell. The argument and retraction over the German case study early last year did a lot of damage, similar to the persistent litigation over “airborne”.
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May 8, 2021 13:47
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Platystemon posted:What are the implications? It also means there's a much much smaller number of people who developed natural antibody protection via infection than many people had been assuming
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Not necessarily. Statistics from cold/flu/sore throat symptoms are not disproved by the generalization from the study I'm unable to read. They only moved the bar for what classifies as asymptomatic. So if 2 cold symptoms implies 5 total cases it really doesn't matter if two more of those case's liquid shits were the result of covid or not. Still 5 cases. Recall from the placebo trials that people are generally used to just feeling like poo poo.
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Really thankful that I got my second moderna shot two weeks ago. I’m now flying for the first time since lockdown and anxiety has shot right up for me. This plane is packed with zero empty seats. At least all passengers I can see are remaining masked thus far. Posted from peak altitude from my Bill Gates 5G
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I got the J+J shot a couple days ago and while my arm still hurts a little its nice to have it out of the way. I was thinking of trying a boxing gym when covid came about. don't think I'll be doing that this year yet even but I can start going to my apt complex's gym at least in a couple weeks once my antibodies are built up. workin third shift right now so I can go in the middle of the day when most people are at work
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Saros posted:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924304/ -antibody levels from an infection OR single dose are about the same -Antibody levels from an infection AND a single dose are on the level of no infection AND two doses -Antibody levels from an infection AND two doses are not notably higher than no infection AND two doses The discussion does state that an alternate protocol to give people who’ve had it just one dose would be valid. It also mentions side effects in people who’ve had it are worse on dose one than the second shot for people who haven’t had it which definitely maps to my experience, I was super sick after my first shot.
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Closing in on 24 hours post-Moderna II, the injection site pain is real, arm doesn't really want to go much above shoulder height. Last fall, I tested negative two days before and two days after an exposure and a three day period of intense muscle and joint pain, like a poster above me described their body was trying to leave their skin, intense fatigue, back and forth from hot to cold like a tennis match and an inability to sleep for more than like 20 minutes at a pop because anything you lied on got super sore. Feeling a notable amount of the same tissue/joint pain and some moderate fatigue, but at like a 3/10 rather than a 9/10, but none of the other symptoms. I feel like I could physically go out to grab some drive-thru or do some grocery shopping, but I have the day off so gently caress it.
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