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SlothfulCobra posted:The whole point of slurpin' that blood was so that it would help Voldemort, so I don't see why the curse wouldn't affect Voldemort just like the magic nutrients. drat unicorns must have a shitload of adrenochrome
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"Voldemort having unfettered access to Unicron is a threat to us all" Harry looked toward Optimus with determination in his eyes.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Just realized this thread turned 1 year old last month. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09rvN3s9Kg it's been four years since this one became ten reignofevil posted:"Voldemort having unfettered access to Unicron is a threat to us all" Harry looked toward Optimus with determination in his eyes. you can't try to win the contest if you're already a mod. mods???? Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 10, 2021 |
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Regalingualius posted:Even the Stone had the one big drawback of needing to always be available to him on-demand (if not always on his person), though. In one of the books Dumbledore says that you need to drink the elixir of life pretty religiously to stay alive and Voldemort would have ultimately hated the idea of having to rely on something external like that for his immortality. ...Which kinda makes it weird that the big reveal in book six is that Voldemort created a bunch of external items that he relies on for his immortality. I guess he's okay with those because he made them? 
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Sydin posted:In one of the books Dumbledore says that you need to drink the elixir of life pretty religiously to stay alive and Voldemort would have ultimately hated the idea of having to rely on something external like that for his immortality. Nah, the elixir of life and the horcruxes have different functions. The elixir of life just keeps you from dying of old age, horcruxes keep you from being killed at all. And the elixir requires you to keep producing it and drinking it, whereas all you need to do with a horcrux is create it and then hide it somewhere nobody can find it.
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When Voldemort was thinking about hiding places he didn't even choose a single butt for his horcruxes. Think about that. It's like he wasn't even trying.
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May 10, 2021 18:37
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reignofevil posted:"Voldemort having unfettered access to Unicron is a threat to us all" Harry looked toward Optimus with determination in his eyes. ...you joke but that actually works all too well, especially given Transformers are effectively immortal and Unicron has been known to grant incredible power to anyone insane enough to pledge themselves to him. And Voldemort is 100% the type to sell out his entire home planet for his own gain. reignofevil posted:When Voldemort was thinking about hiding places he didn't even choose a single butt for his horcruxes. Think about that. It's like he wasn't even trying. Also a clear joke but said itt before that Dumbledore actually outright says that Voldemort is way too much of an egotist to say, pick a random rock as a Horcrux and bury it in an abandoned quarry, like they do with Portkeys; he has to make objects of personal and historical significance into Horcruxes and hide them in significant if well guarded places because his ego demands nothing less than video game puzzle logic.
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W.T. Fits posted:Nah, the elixir of life and the horcruxes have different functions. The elixir of life just keeps you from dying of old age, horcruxes keep you from being killed at all. And the elixir requires you to keep producing it and drinking it, whereas all you need to do with a horcrux is create it and then hide it somewhere nobody can find it. Or in Voldemort's case, hide them in extremely obvious locations of close personal significance.
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Sydin posted:Or in Voldemort's case, hide them in extremely obvious locations of close personal significance. “Only I, Lord Voldemort, have discovered this magic closet full of literal tons of old poo poo that kids have been hiding for centuries”
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muscles like this! posted:Chamber of Secrets also had Malfoy just straight up saying he wished whoever was turning purple into stone had just killed Hermione instead so he was definitely a hosed up kid. Draco was 100% a terrible person until Book 6, He also threatens Harry and everybody at the nd of Book 4, saying mudbloods and blood traitors are first...then adding actually Cedric was first. Basically mocking the boy who just got murdered.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:...you joke but that actually works all too well, especially given Transformers are effectively immortal and Unicron has been known to grant incredible power to anyone insane enough to pledge themselves to him. And Voldemort is 100% the type to sell out his entire home planet for his own gain. Harry really should have played Myst on Dudley's old PC.
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May 10, 2021 19:24
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josh04 posted:Harry really should have played Myst on Dudley's old PC. Harry Potter and the Bullshit Tone Puzzle
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May 10, 2021 19:29
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josh04 posted:Harry really should have played Myst on Dudley's old PC. Too busy marveling over Dudley's super secret Playstation prototype.
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reignofevil posted:When Voldemort was thinking about hiding places he didn't even choose a single butt for his horcruxes. Think about that. It's like he wasn't even trying. Wasn't harry a horcrux? So, a huge rear end right there.
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Sydin posted:Too busy marveling over Dudley's super secret Playstation prototype. Vernon worked at Grunnings, but Dudley's uncle worked at Nintendo (before you say anything, Nintendo WAS working with Sony on the first Playstation prototypes as a CD-ROM peripheral for the Super Famicom in the early 90s)
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Voldemort making significant magical items and stashing them in prominent places makes sense for reasons other than his ego; he was basically experimenting with close to unknown and barely documented magic on himself to a degree that had probably never been done before. So it might help to have the results of those experiments accessible and easy to identify. He plans on living forever, so thinking long-term is a good move.
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Rockstar Massacre posted:Voldemort making significant magical items and stashing them in prominent places makes sense for reasons other than his ego; he was basically experimenting with close to unknown and barely documented magic on himself to a degree that had probably never been done before. sure, you should still send one to mars or something even if you want the rest hanging around tho
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Tom Riddle, after a long night of unleashing a giant snake monster upon his peers at the school, slumbers soundly in the astronomy tower as the professor blandly recounts the factual existence of planets other than our own.
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reignofevil posted:Tom Riddle, after a long night of unleashing a giant snake monster upon his peers at the school Hm.
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Rockstar Massacre posted:Voldemort making significant magical items and stashing them in prominent places makes sense for reasons other than his ego; he was basically experimenting with close to unknown and barely documented magic on himself to a degree that had probably never been done before. Close to unknown and barely document magic that was apparently just freely available in the Hogwarts library if you knew what book to look for.
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May 10, 2021 23:21
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Sydin posted:Close to unknown and barely document magic that was apparently just freely available in the Hogwarts library if you knew what book to look for. i'm the guy who ordered a book called magicke most evile for the school library
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reignofevil posted:Tom Riddle, after a long night of unleashing a giant snake monster upon his peers at the school, slumbers soundly in the astronomy tower as the professor blandly recounts the factual existence of planets other than our own. A nadir of book six is Dumbledore's claim that everyone at Hogwarts knew Voldemort and his pals were nogoodniks but they were all too scared to do anything about it. Unlike Dumbledore who was presumably playing the extremely long game of letting Riddle become a dark lord, so he could catch him in the act.
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I do appreciate the subtext that Slughorn toyed with the idea of making his own horcrux in the past but absolutely noped the gently caress out once he realized how terrible the magic involved was. It's an interesting character dimension.
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He had read a rough translation and thought you just had to kill a ribeye steak in under twenty minutes once he realized it actually said you need to kill a ribald jake he realized what a fool he had been.
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No one except Dumbledore believed anything bad about Riddle and Riddle was good at keeping himself away from the bad stuff. Basically, everyone thought Tom was brilliant and law-abiding and destined for greatness. With the rest it was a lot of "boys will be boys" with respect to the sons and daughters of wealthy, ancient families. Dumbledore also didn't have any evidence and wasn't in charge of Riddle, Slughorn (and Dippet above him) was. To be fair, once Slughorn realized that Riddle had read Secrets of the Darkest Art he looked at Tom in a new light.
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Jazerus posted:sure, you should still send one to mars or something even if you want the rest hanging around tho Didn’t Voldemort make one of the Pioneer probes a horcrux in Harry Potter is an Insufferable Nerd?
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Jazerus posted:i'm the guy who ordered a book called magicke most evile for the school library On the shelf next to it was Magicke Most Revile, a book that berates you with a steam of profane insults if you try to read it.
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Dumbledore is not very consistent on the point; he says first this:quote:"However, if he was frightening or impressing fellow Slytherins with displays of Parseltongue in their common room, no hint of it reached the staff. He showed no sign of outward arrogance or aggression at all. As an unusually talented and very good-looking orphan, he naturally drew attention and sympathy from the staff almost from the moment of his arrival. He seemed police, quiet, and thirsty for knowledge. Nearly all were most favorably impressed by him." But then subsequently this: quote:"As he moved up the school, he gathered about him a group of dedicated friends; I call them that, for want of a better term, although as I have already indicated, Riddle undoubtedly felt no affection for any of them. This group had a kind of dark glamour within the castle. They were a motley collection; a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty. In other words, they were the forerunners of the Death Eaters, and indeed some of them became the first Death Eaters after leaving Hogwarts. So is he charming, talented and free from arrogance? Or is he stalking the castle with his rigidly controlled pack of teen murderers, baking in 'dark glamour'? Thanks to a 2009 blogspot post of the entire book for these quotes.
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The simplest explanation is that the first paragraph describes his early years, the second maybe the last 3 years. Could also just be inconsistency. Are those from separate books or the same volume?
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Lol, they're from the same page.
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Why is it evil to speak snake language in your common room? What did snakes ever do to deserve this?
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There's definitely some sort of progression at work where Riddle starts as overtly charming and gregarious because it gets him what he wants, but as he attracts followers and power he slowly but surely drops that act because it's no longer needed, and he'd rather get things through fear and respect than charm. It's unclear how much of that takes place during his school years though. The first time we hear about him really having fully shed his handsome charm is when he visits Dumbledore a couple years after graduating for the job interview.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What did snakes ever do to deserve this? Not have legs.
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It's kind of funny how Harry's ability to talk to snakes became a complete non-entity after CoS. He could've had an army of snake spies that only he could understand, and probably found out what Draco was doing in HBP. Ron did more in DH by repeating what Harry hissed to open the Chamber and destroy the Horcrux with the Basilisk.
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josh04 posted:Dumbledore is not very consistent on the point; he says first this: I think Ccs is correct that it is describing the progression over 7 years of his life, but even then there’s not a big contradiction there. The “rigidly controlled” part is essentially supposition from Dumbledore working with a lot of hindsight: i.e. the reason Dumbledore knows he was rigidly controlling them is because they were never linked to wrong doing even tho a bunch of them became Death Eaters.
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I think the second quote is from only dumbledores perspective and with the benefit of hindsight, not what would have been perceived at the time by the other teachers. Maybe a bit of an aura to the group but never really linked to anything bad and everyone thought riddle was the best so they didn't pay them much attention. Looking back there is obviously a correlation between bad stuff happening and them being at Hogwarts but no-one made the connection at the time. Dumbledore thinks they weren't 'satisfactorily' linked but everyone else seemed perfectly happy with say hagrid as the fall guy for the chamber of secrets and don't look into it any further.
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"Looking back it was obvious something was up but he had such a pristine reputation at the time that nobody really bothered to investigate or worry about what his circle of friends was starting to look like" doesn't seem like much of a contradiction. If anything, the description of the system's utter complacency toward creeping fascism is one of the series' strengths, and much of the reason why annoying fans picked up the analogy and started inserting it everywhere. YaketySass fucked around with this message at 12:19 on May 11, 2021 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Speaking of Voldemort, the movie version is not at all how I pictured him, but holy poo poo he rules in his own way. Naked cackling blue guy. Loves killing kids and being evil. He's amazing. Yeah say what you will about HP but Ralph Fiennes nailed old Voldy
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Ralph Fiennes did a good job, but I hate that smoker's wheeze that Tommy speaks with. It's so goddamn irritating and I don't get how anyone could take him seriously when he obviously needs an inhaler.
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What do the books mean when they say "robes"? I always end up imagining wizards walking around in bath robes with their tshirts sticking out and sometimes the bathrobes have stars on them.
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