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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Collapsing Farts posted:

Can people please stop saying that superhero movies and TV shows are "mostly for children". Superhero movies are the new action movies and they've been this for the last decade now. The most popular movies and shows is all superhero or fantasy stuff. The most popular TV show of all time was a show about knights, dragons, zombies, wizards and lots of tits

Goons are eternally frozen in 2003 and insist things like video games or anime are somehow still niche and not hugely popular past times with tons of mainstream appeal and representation.

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Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Collapsing Farts posted:

Can people please stop saying that superhero movies and TV shows are "mostly for children". Superhero movies are the new action movies and they've been this for the last decade now. The most popular movies and shows is all superhero or fantasy stuff. The most popular TV show of all time was a show about knights, dragons, zombies, wizards and lots of tits

Disney has always had a focus on movies for kids that parents can enjoy as well. So if anything I would say that Marvel is making movies for adults that kids can enjoy too. So while it’s not meant specifically for kids it is meant for kids to watch as well because I can tell you that my daughter loves Captain America even though she’s three and doesn’t really understand what’s going on.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

It's 'family entertainment' which typically means something that caters heavily to the attention spans of younger teenagers while peppering the script with things adults will appreciate.

e: and that's not a slur, it's incredibly hard to pull off. Toy Story is a great film that anyone can enjoy.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Collapsing Farts posted:

Can people please stop saying that superhero movies and TV shows are "mostly for children". Superhero movies are the new action movies and they've been this for the last decade now. The most popular movies and shows is all superhero or fantasy stuff. The most popular TV show of all time was a show about knights, dragons, zombies, wizards and lots of tits

According to a survey from 2020, the average MCU viewer is male, a person of color between the ages of 0 and 20, single, occupation is "student." and from the United States.

If you break "person of color" down into separate ethnicities, then the average viewer is white.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Collapsing Farts posted:

Can people please stop saying that superhero movies and TV shows are "mostly for children". Superhero movies are the new action movies and they've been this for the last decade now. The most popular movies and shows is all superhero or fantasy stuff. The most popular TV show of all time was a show about knights, dragons, zombies, wizards and lots of tits

No one's saying all superhero shows/movies are aimed at children. The MCU is aimed at families (including children) so it makes sense that Disney would take a formulaic approach to be inoffensive.

I mean, look at Watchmen, The Boys, Deadpool, and Invincible. No one sane is saying those are aimed at kids.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

Floppychop posted:

No one's saying all superhero shows/movies are aimed at children. The MCU is aimed at families (including children) so it makes sense that Disney would take a formulaic approach to be inoffensive.

I mean, look at Watchmen, The Boys, Deadpool, and Invincible. No one sane is saying those are aimed at kids.

Those are the best introductions to superheroes.


Gotta teach em early that All Capes Are Bastards.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Everyone posted:

There was a lot of chemistry between Bucky and Sam. It just wasn't sexual chemistry. Even if you wanted to view these two characters as gay (or, in Bucky's case, bi, given that he went on a date with the waitress girl and was flirting with Sam's sister, who seemed more than a little receptive), they aren't gay for each other.

I didn't say sexual chemistry, I said chemistry. These two did not feel like friends in any way to me

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist

Floppychop posted:

No one's saying all superhero shows/movies are aimed at children. The MCU is aimed at families (including children) so it makes sense that Disney would take a formulaic approach to be inoffensive.

I mean, look at Watchmen, The Boys, Deadpool, and Invincible. No one sane is saying those are aimed at kids.

They're not aimed at kids, but they're certainly"adolescent." Maybe not Watchmen, but certainly the other three.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

G-III posted:

I get that after a year of being locked away during a pandemic some folks are getting extra thirsty but doing so to the point where some folks are lamenting that a show mostly targeted at children doesn't contain more sexualized content is goddamn creepy. Folks need to knock this poo poo off.

Why is decapitation and murder okay in a children's show but not displays of love and affection. The hell is wrong with your brain to call us creepy

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

End of the fiscal year, bitch.
MP's got time to order pens for year year, hooah?


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made



Lipstick Apathy
Walker is clearly in a committed monogamous sexual relationship with Battlestar to the point he has an ongoing relationship with his family, but Bucky and Sam are gay for each other because they sit close to each other at therapy once?

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!
decapitation isn't allowed in disney stuff either btw

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Canada really lucked out with Wolverine though I wonder how many people even know he's from Alberta.

Him having anything resembling a heroic nature or any kind of bravery as an Albertan breaks my suspension of disbelief way harder than his superpowers.


not really though, he's like from 1910 Alberta

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Thanos got his block chopped off.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Invalid Validation posted:

Thanos got his block chopped off.

They also throw a dude into the rotors of the helicarrier and show a lady getting both of her hands chopped off (on the ABC network TV show).

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Terror Sweat posted:

Why is decapitation and murder okay in a children's show but not displays of love and affection. The hell is wrong with your brain to call us creepy

G-III’s brain has been transmuted by MarDisUSA so that the parts associated with romantic love have been replaced with a desire to enact righteous violence on the third world. They’re essentially a modern warrior-eunuch, akin to the Mameluke soldiers used to conquer Egypt and India in the medieval period.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

a Loving Dog posted:

decapitation isn't allowed in disney stuff either btw

Snoke got chopped in half with a lightsaber, pretty close

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Rockstar Massacre posted:

Him having anything resembling a heroic nature or any kind of bravery as an Albertan breaks my suspension of disbelief way harder than his superpowers.


not really though, he's like from 1910 Alberta

Like 1800s

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

The Modern Leper posted:

They're not aimed at kids, but they're certainly"adolescent." Maybe not Watchmen, but certainly the other three.

Yeah, the subject matter is quite immature, but they're aimed at adults (a 20yr old college student is an adult, technically).

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
in addition to thanos getting straight up decapitated, allegedly one of the early endgame scripts featured thanos entering the fray by throwing down the head of captain america

they cut it because it was too dour, not because the rating would have stopped them

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Lunatic Sledge posted:

in addition to thanos getting straight up decapitated, allegedly one of the early endgame scripts featured thanos entering the fray by throwing down the head of captain america

they cut it because it was too dour, not because the rating would have stopped them

God remember when everyone thought semi-jokingly-haha-wouldn't-it-be-crazy-if Ant-Man was going to fly up Thanos' butt and grow?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Should have used poison ivy oil

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Everyone in this thread saying Disney doesn't show you true horror really forgettin' all about Mufasa smdh

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Same token sex lust and Hellfire

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Boxman posted:

God remember when everyone thought semi-jokingly-haha-wouldn't-it-be-crazy-if Ant-Man was going to fly up Thanos' butt and grow?

Well yeah why else would it be called “End”game

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:

G-III’s brain has been transmuted by MarDisUSA so that the parts associated with romantic love have been replaced with a desire to enact righteous violence on the third world. They’re essentially a modern warrior-eunuch, akin to the Mameluke soldiers used to conquer Egypt and India in the medieval period.

thanks for the recognition friend :)

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Terror Sweat posted:

I didn't say sexual chemistry, I said chemistry. These two did not feel like friends in any way to me

That's because for most of the show, they weren't friends. Bucky was angry at Sam for rejecting the Shield and letting a doofus like Walker get it. Sam was pissed at Bucky for trying to guilt him about rejecting the Captain America mantle. It's only in episodes five and six, when they resolve that conflict, that they start becoming actual friends.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Thread saying MCU is the new Action movies

Me going MCU John Wick and Die Hard when

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Marvel movies are a very bright and colorful kind of action adventure film but John Wick and Fast & the Furious are huge franchises as well (that I think area also pretty much totally devoid of sex these days?)

The one that pisses me off are when people try to say that the MCU is the “mythology of the modern world” because seriously that would completely suck, because there are like, no lessons to be learned from these films at all. They are entertaining but they are completely mindless.

That’s why I like the shows better than the movies.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
The only love in the Fast and Furious movies is the love between man and machine taking life a quarter mile at a time.

Fast and the Furious had a major subplot about a girlfriend and a baby in the first few movies, but Dom's girlfriend is basically just "female coworker" and they essentially never even mention he has a kid anymore.

Ravel
Dec 23, 2009

There's no story
Toretto's son was introduced in the last movie and was the motivation for most of the plot

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Ravel posted:

Toretto's son was introduced in the last movie and was the motivation for most of the plot

Wasn't the last movie Hobbs and Shaw?

I haven't seen Fast 8, so maybe the streak is over. But, they did have a good 6-7 years where Dom's girlfriend and child basically became platonic/invisible.

Seedge
Jun 15, 2009
Hey, buddy. :glomp:



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Wasn't the last movie Hobbs and Shaw?

I haven't seen Fast 8, so maybe the streak is over. But, they did have a good 6-7 years where Dom's girlfriend and child basically became platonic/invisible.

Letty was dead for a few movies and his child literally came into existence in 8, the last entry to come out in the franchise.

Hobbs and Shaw is a spinoff which Dom is not in, so this 6-7 years thing is utterly nonsensical.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004

Lid posted:

Thread saying MCU is the new Action movies

Me going MCU John Wick and Die Hard when

Moon Knight

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Fast & Furious lore is the only lore somehow dorkier than LOTR, Star Wars, or MCU

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

Bust Rodd posted:

Fast & Furious lore is the only lore somehow dorkier than LOTR, Star Wars, or MCU

That's cuz F&F is a DnD campaign with cars

Seedge
Jun 15, 2009
Hey, buddy. :glomp:



Bust Rodd posted:

Fast & Furious lore is the only lore somehow dorkier than LOTR, Star Wars, or MCU

The Fast crew are absolutely wizards who specialise in car magic. The new one appears to have magic magnets. It's fantastically silly.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Its Rinaldo posted:

That's cuz F&F is a DnD campaign with cars

right down to the DM having to create side game in the same world, when two players couldn't get along and were being toxic at the table, but they all still wanted to play.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Seedge posted:

Letty was dead for a few movies and his child literally came into existence in 8, the last entry to come out in the franchise.

Hobbs and Shaw is a spinoff which Dom is not in, so this 6-7 years thing is utterly nonsensical.

She was introduced in the first movie and then "killed" for several movies that had no romantic subplot. I was just picking a number at random, but it was several years between her death and comeback.

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

She was introduced in the first movie and then "killed" for several movies that had no romantic subplot. I was just picking a number at random, but it was several years between her death and comeback.

Letty was killed in 4, and Brought back in 6.

Dom dated that cop lady affiliated with Hobbs(who's name I forget Elaine?) in between 5 and 6 and then when he found out Letty was alive he went to go find her and eventually left the Cop Lady when he and Letty reconnected.

He didn't find out Cop lady had gotten preggo(she never told him) and had his kid until 8 where they were used as a plot device.

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