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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:GoT and Scrubs both have way too high of a rating for the later seasons. It wasn’t just that, it was also the slap. The Good Wife finale was deeply weird. It was forty minutes of kind of meaningless loving around, and then ten minutes of Alicia Florick pretty much singlehandedly setting fire to every relationship that remained in the show up to that point in the name of... political power? Unclear. It was as if the producers decided at the last minute that actually the show had been a legal version of Breaking Bad and she was the female Walter White*. It made very little sense. *House of Cards is probably the better analogy but I didn’t watch House of Cards.
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Who's talking poo poo about Scrubs Seasons 5 and 6 in this thread? 5 is gold and has some of the best episodes in the entire show and 6 has some misses but also has some top-tier episodes in between them. 7 sucks, but its the Writer's Strike Season so that's hardly shocking.
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scrubs was a mess and I don't understand how you can have a show pingpong between oh my god its cancer and haha whoops pratfall banana hammock
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May 10, 2021 06:59
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Phenotype posted:scrubs was a mess and I don't understand how you can have a show pingpong between oh my god its cancer and haha whoops pratfall banana hammock Absurdist Humor and Drama being combined wasn't exactly totally unprecedented before Scrubs
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May 10, 2021 07:41
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Remember how this thread used to be about GoT? Yeah me either. Scrubs was fine for what it was it's biggest sin was making Zach Braf think he had talent.
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An insane mind posted:Remember how this thread used to be about GoT? Yeah me either. Scrubs was fine for what it was it's biggest sin was making Zach Braf think he had talent. A testament to how discourse around the show is now rightly dead.
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Understanding the death of American culture through Game of Thrones and other media franchises
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My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd.
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May 10, 2021 11:01
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Algol Star posted:My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd. "Ah poo poo that sounded bad. It sounded great in my head and just rolled off the tongue!"
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May 10, 2021 11:06
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Zaphod42 posted:That graph may have been made before the season was over holy gently caress that Dexter chart is forgiving.
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May 10, 2021 11:28
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Algol Star posted:My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd. Suddenly tyrion getting written out of that book makes a lot more sense
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May 10, 2021 12:35
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Blaise330 posted:holy gently caress that Dexter chart is forgiving.
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May 10, 2021 15:08
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SuperTeeJay posted:No kidding. Like The Dark Knight being considered the best film ever made by the users of IMDB, its ratings are a better indication of the contemporaneous online chatter than anything else. I lost interest in Dexter after season 3 but don't think it turned into a real target of hate until much later. There seems to be a delayed response with some of these things, because everyone still swore up and down that GoT was the best thing ever right up until season 8 started airing. Season 7 is just as bad.
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May 10, 2021 15:49
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Season 7 at least has a few cool moments but yeah the wheels really fall off then
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:GoT and Scrubs both have way too high of a rating for the later seasons. Said it before but it's weird to me how highly GoT was rated not only with audiences but with critics until the end. I think season 5 has a better metacritic rating than season 1 which is insane.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Said it before but it's weird to me how highly GoT was rated not only with audiences but with critics until the end. I think season 5 has a better metacritic rating than season 1 which is insane. Yeah the fact that GoT was still really popular at any point after season four ended is a damning indictment of everyone involved. I know loads of people who swear down that seasons 5 and 6 are where the show gets really good. 
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stev posted:Yeah the fact that GoT was still really popular at any point after season four ended is a damning indictment of everyone involved. I know loads of people who swear down that seasons 5 and 6 are where the show gets really good. There was a 'Fight Companion' episode of the Joe Rogan Experience where they were all gushing about how awesome the last season was. It was one of the last episodes I watched.
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SuperTeeJay posted:No kidding. Like The Dark Knight being considered the best film ever made by the users of IMDB, its ratings are a better indication of the contemporaneous online chatter than anything else. I lost interest in Dexter after season 3 but don't think it turned into a real target of hate until much later. Dexter wasn't the same kind of show, though. The serialized dramas like Game of Thrones are the ones that suffer most from lovely later seasons, because the entire show has been telling a single story that persists from episode to episode. There were season-long arcs in Dexter, but even in that context most episodes were monster-of-the-week type shows where Dexter spends a few scenes following up on the season's arc, but spends most of the episode meeting a new serial killer and dispatching him in an interesting way. You can still have fun watching that kind of thing even in the final seasons, because you haven't spent six seasons wondering about mysteries and prophecies and how these long epic story arcs will conclude. It's not surprising that people still enjoyed the serial killer antics even into season 7, and season 8 was only notably bad because of how silly it became when they decided to wrap up Dexter's story.
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May 10, 2021 16:32
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Vichan posted:There was a 'Fight Companion' episode of the Joe Rogan Experience where they were all gushing about how awesome the last season was. It was one of the last episodes I watched. As if I needed any more evidence that Joe Rogan is the dumbest human being currently walking this earth…
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May 10, 2021 16:51
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh wow, I never finished True Blood and now I'm curious what it did that was so awful in the last season when it was already pretty bad A major character gets killed offscreen in the first episode, and we spend half the season following someone who refuses to believe it, only to discover that yes, they were actually killed offscreen. Remember how the show used to be about sex and violence? There's basically none of either. The final question of just who Sookie ends up with gets answered right at the end some unknown dude, we don't even see his face
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SuperTeeJay posted:No kidding. Like The Dark Knight being considered the best film ever made by the users of IMDB, its ratings are a better indication of the contemporaneous online chatter than anything else. I lost interest in Dexter after season 3 but don't think it turned into a real target of hate until much later. One thing that all these graphs show is how the rating can be artificially inflated for awhile until people really reach a critical consensus that the show has become "bad". Most of those shows that tank, the last few episodes are pretty bad but the audience clearly is willing to forgive some things for the first couple lovely episodes before they realize "oh, this is all we're getting now, its just all bad" and then they start dropping the ratings more dramatically. Groovelord Neato posted:Said it before but it's weird to me how highly GoT was rated not only with audiences but with critics until the end. I think season 5 has a better metacritic rating than season 1 which is insane. See above. You also had a lot of people who weren't into it in S1 but once it became the water cooler show after the red wedding they started watching. There's definitely like a "mob mentality" to audience scores. Strom Cuzewon posted:The final question of just who Sookie ends up with gets answered right at the end some unknown dude, we don't even see his face Lmao 
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Honestly it's wild to me that people bother submitting ratings for individual episodes to begin with.
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Season 6 ep 1: no nudity I THOUGHT THIS WAS GAME OF THRONES WHERE ARE MY TITS! 1 Star
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An insane mind posted:Season 6 ep 1: no nudity I THOUGHT THIS WAS GAME OF THRONES WHERE ARE MY TITS! --King Robert Baratheon.
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Algol Star posted:My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd. I think it's a reference to the conversation they had in S1E4. edit or that he had with Jon? The cripples bastards and broken things talk Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 22:40 on May 10, 2021 |
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Algol Star posted:My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd. 
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May 10, 2021 22:29
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*posting in a GoT thread two years after the show ended* it's so funny how nobody talks about this show anymore
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romanowski posted:*posting in a GoT thread two years after the show ended* it's so funny how nobody talks about this show anymore Yea but it's more "hey, here's loads of shows that also sucked"
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And in my case if I wrap myself in enough tinfoil the bad season can't hurt me anymore.
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This thread is Reagan's grave, but for TV.
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Algol Star posted:My favourite part of season 8 is Tyrion giving Bran the insulting epithet 'the broken' like right to his face in front of a bunch of people. I'm imagining some medieval priest proudly announcing the coronation of 'Childeric the idiot' or 'Aethelred the unready' to a suspicious crowd.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think it's a reference to the conversation they had in S1E4. Season 8 had so many completely botched callback lines stolen from the good seasons
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Alhazred posted:There actually was one Norwegian king called Inge the Hunchback. Was he called that to his face though?
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Taear posted:Yea but it's more "hey, here's loads of shows that also sucked" And they're literally coming out with a prequel show to try and salvage some good will.
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Alhazred posted:There actually was one Norwegian king called Inge the Hunchback. There were also kings called childeric the idiot and aethlred the unready' too, probs not to their face though.
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The later seasons of Scrubs sucked poo poo and as the show went on the characters became more and more like clown versions of themselves. I especially hated the weird inflection Elliot grew to have. None of the dialogue felt natural anymore. There were a few standout good bits, like Dr Cox accidentally killing three patients, but it was sandwiched between too much goofiness (and yes it was obviously a comedy but they went too far into wacky). Like the crazy stuff that used to be part of JD's fantasies were now happening to the characters in their real lives. Like when Turk pretzels himself to fit into JD's bag to get cookies, or the giant holes filled with water that a car could fit into so in the parking lot the Janitor set up to prank JD. Also I got extremely tired of JD going AGYOOOOO whenever he fell over
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Macaluso posted:The later seasons of Scrubs sucked poo poo and as the show went on the characters became more and more like clown versions of themselves. I especially hated the weird inflection Elliot grew to have. None of the dialogue felt natural anymore. There were a few standout good bits, like Dr Cox accidentally killing three patients, but it was sandwiched between too much goofiness (and yes it was obviously a comedy but they went too far into wacky). Like the crazy stuff that used to be part of JD's fantasies were now happening to the characters in their real lives. Like when Turk pretzels himself to fit into JD's bag to get cookies, or the giant holes filled with water that a car could fit into so in the parking lot the Janitor set up to prank JD. This is a real measurable phenomenon on most TV shows that run too long. Way easier to pick out in comedies though, since those character traits are constantly used for cheap laughs.
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bran/the three-eyed raven should have been the lord of light who inadvertently created all of this by trying to stop it literally the only thing that would have made sense in this dumb book about magic that both is and isnt at the same time hbo, i can be hired directly from this forum, just emptyquote me
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GolfHole posted:bran/the three-eyed raven should have been the lord of light who inadvertently created all of this by trying to stop it This is kind of where I think the Jon/Dany conflict/romance/whatever in the books is going. There are two stories relating to the first Long Night that both relate to a man killing a woman; TWOIAF says that the Bloodstone Emperor betrayed and murdered his elder sister the Amethyst Empress, and that caused the Long Night. The series proper says that Azor Ahai killed his wife Nissa Nissa in order to forge Lightbringer to end the darkness. This being a series that kind of prominently features families that practice sibling incest, it makes you wonder if these two events are the same, that Nissa Nissa was the Amethyst Empress and sister-wife to Azor Ahai, the Bloodstone Emperor, and if his murder of her was a bit more complicated than "dude kills woman to forge sword and saves world" (since in my opinion sacrificing others is not at all heroic). And that's kind of where I think the Jon/Dany storyline is leading to, and a part of the bricks in my foundation about Jon and Dany being full brother and sister; circumstances are going to arise where Jon is going to fall in love with and then murder Daenerys, not knowing she's actually his sister, and it's both going to be the event that causes the second Long Night, but also creates the means to banish the darkness (perhaps sort of "it's gotta start before we can end it.") And that sort of story is how I could see Bran being named King in the books because he "knows all our stories." The issue is that everyone's chasing half-remembered and incomplete prophecies and all it ever does is backfire horribly. Put the guy who knows all of history on the throne so he can stop that goddamn poo poo. If you don't history's going to keep repeating itself. Or it might be that Bran orchestrates everything to end the cycle of history permanently, make this Long Night the last Long Night, and he uses Jon and Dany and everyone else as pieces on the board. Jon realizes that Bran-raven basically manipulated him into becoming a kinslayer, and he's exiled but vows to wage war to remove Bran from the throne, which would line up with the original outline GRRM produced decades ago where Jon is in exile beyond the Wall and King Bran is his bitter enemy.
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Algol Star posted:There were also kings called childeric the idiot and aethlred the unready' too, probs not to their face though. That was the original joke. Like literally that. Come on!
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