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Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

nunsexmonkrock posted:

Did I miss it or did they not explain what the needle thing in Zamfir's neck did?

I think it was just a tracking spell

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nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008
Ah okay I thought it was just that gem they had that found them. didn't put 2 and 2 together that they needed to have something for it to lock onto. Thanks!

discworld is all I read
Apr 7, 2009

DAIJOUBU!! ... Daijoubu ?? ?
For some reason I was really hoping that at the end, Alucard was going to name his new town Castlevania. Hard cut to credits.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

discworld is all I read posted:

For some reason I was really hoping that at the end, Alucard was going to name his new town Castlevania. Hard cut to credits.

Pinacoladaberg

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

Regalingualius posted:

Castlevania S4: Don’t you think that’s weirdly hosed up?

Castlevania S4: We'll call it Belmont. That should confuse everybody.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

discworld is all I read posted:

For some reason I was really hoping that at the end, Alucard was going to name his new town Castlevania. Hard cut to credits.

I thought the exact same thing. Except everyone would just immediately stop and ask "What the gently caress is that?"

Bertilak
Oct 31, 2010

Hmm, I just finished watching, and I would say that this was an excellent season. However, I had a few thoughts on things that kind of struck me as, well, kind of odd.

Is it weird that the show basically tells 2 plots that pretty much have nothing to do with each other? I mean, the deal with Dracula and his minions storyline ends up really disconnected from the deal with Carmilla storyline. The two subsets of the cast never interact nor even seem aware of each other, especially after the 2nd season. I don't necessarily think that is bad, but it does bother me a little.

Also, I am eager to see more spinoffs and sequel series and such, but considering the way the show ended, it kind of feels like you would have to move away from the games a lot.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
Death is a sassy bitch.


Bertilak posted:

Hmm, I just finished watching, and I would say that this was an excellent season. However, I had a few thoughts on things that kind of struck me as, well, kind of odd.

Is it weird that the show basically tells 2 plots that pretty much have nothing to do with each other? I mean, the deal with Dracula and his minions storyline ends up really disconnected from the deal with Carmilla storyline. The two subsets of the cast never interact nor even seem aware of each other, especially after the 2nd season. I don't necessarily think that is bad, but it does bother me a little.

Also, I am eager to see more spinoffs and sequel series and such, but considering the way the show ended, it kind of feels like you would have to move away from the games a lot.


Actually kind of funny that Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard never met Carmilla, Isaac, and Hector once.

Mr. Funktastic posted:

Just finished the season. Might be the best one so far (4 > 2 > 3> 1, IMO). Very satisfying wrap up to the series but was hoping Issac was going to get some screen time in the last episode but oh well. Here's hoping they go for another one with Simon Belmont in the future.

I'm okay with "I choose to live" being his final line.

Blaise330 fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 14, 2021

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Bertilak posted:

Hmm, I just finished watching, and I would say that this was an excellent season. However, I had a few thoughts on things that kind of struck me as, well, kind of odd.

Is it weird that the show basically tells 2 plots that pretty much have nothing to do with each other? I mean, the deal with Dracula and his minions storyline ends up really disconnected from the deal with Carmilla storyline. The two subsets of the cast never interact nor even seem aware of each other, especially after the 2nd season. I don't necessarily think that is bad, but it does bother me a little.

Also, I am eager to see more spinoffs and sequel series and such, but considering the way the show ended, it kind of feels like you would have to move away from the games a lot.


I'd honestly just do a reboot. Make it something completely different, no matter how much you love the original characters, they got their proper endings.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
At first Trevor living kinda made me groan cause it seemed weird that such a dark and ruthless show would do something so toothless at the ending.... then I got to see his reaction to the village being named Treffy and him bragging about knowing he'd get Sypha pregnant the first time he tried. It's like alright, you know what, yall earned that ending.

Man the people in that first village that Sypha was starting to fix are kinda boned now aren't they? Whelp.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Final scene spoilers: Never thought I'd get so excited for a Whitby shout-out. But I did, and it owned.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
In hindsight, I shoulda known Death was coming when it kept showing clock gears

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner
Watched it all last night non stop and loved it, might be the best season.

A happy ending! I thought we'd get a bittersweet one at best, and it certainly looked that way first. Can't help but wonder if they changed the ending with Trevor living instead of being dead. Trevor gets to have his family with Sypha and live in a community where he's not an outcast scorned by the wider world. Alucard obviously found a new love interest who respects him and a community that loves him. Isaac found a new purpose and managed to let go of revenge breaking that cycle of death. Hector probably got the least happy ending due to Lenore but he's free to find his own path now. The big one being Dracula and the wife being alive! What a surprise that was.

I don't really believe Lenore is dead, she went straight to ash or looked like was the case, no horrible burning up like the rest of the vamps so can't help but think that she pulled a fast one and used a magic trick to up and vanish.

Trevor kinda had a rough go at it, until the fight with Death he was getting his butt kicked quite a bit and struggling to stay alive, Alucard and Sypha did vastly more and struggled far less in battles.

Speaking of Death why did Death actually need a mirror to get to the castle? Only reason I can think of is that something in the castle prevented him from going there directly and he needed the mirror to bypass whatever kept him out.

The ending certainly doesn't seem like it allows for any follow up based on the games but a lot can happen between this show and a later Belmont. There are many games where Draculas castle is beside a town that gets absolutely wrecked so that can still happen down the line. Dracula himself doesn't seem like he would go all murder like but it's clear that he can easily fall back into that state of things should something happen to his wife. That's all speculation of course, it's clear that they made the show it's own thing taking elements of the games. If we do get a follow up which is rumoured to be happening I can easily see them doing a whole new continuity that's separate from this one.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Blaise330 posted:

Man the people in that first village that Sypha was starting to fix are kinda boned now aren't they? Whelp.

I think the people in Targoviste might be okay, since the people aboveground are going to go down to the scene of the fighting to find a bunch of dead nobles, no living king or queen, and an immense amount of gold and treasure.

Also, even with Sypha's two-week grief vacation, I have to figure she's type-A enough that she'd eventually want to head back there and follow up.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

Bertilak posted:

Hmm, I just finished watching, and I would say that this was an excellent season. However, I had a few thoughts on things that kind of struck me as, well, kind of odd.

Is it weird that the show basically tells 2 plots that pretty much have nothing to do with each other? I mean, the deal with Dracula and his minions storyline ends up really disconnected from the deal with Carmilla storyline. The two subsets of the cast never interact nor even seem aware of each other, especially after the 2nd season. I don't necessarily think that is bad, but it does bother me a little.

Also, I am eager to see more spinoffs and sequel series and such, but considering the way the show ended, it kind of feels like you would have to move away from the games a lot.


Ending spoilers I think it's a safe bet that one of the off shoot shows they want to do will focus on Isaac and Hector. So they set up two separate spin off shows with one final season.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




https://twitter.com/powerhouseanim/status/1393220094277398533?s=21

Seems like more confirmation that they already have something in the pipeline

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Holy crap the ending is too wholesome, great show.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Searched the thread for Artorias but didn't see anything. That armored fight scene was straight out of Dark Souls.

Bertilak posted:

Hmm, I just finished watching, and I would say that this was an excellent season. However, I had a few thoughts on things that kind of struck me as, well, kind of odd.

Is it weird that the show basically tells 2 plots that pretty much have nothing to do with each other? I mean, the deal with Dracula and his minions storyline ends up really disconnected from the deal with Carmilla storyline. The two subsets of the cast never interact nor even seem aware of each other, especially after the 2nd season. I don't necessarily think that is bad, but it does bother me a little.

They interacted thematically. Carmilla couldn't imagine a world where she was somebody else. She wanted just more - more death, more destruction. They were laying it thick that she was turning into the new Dracula. The other guys were looking for meaning in the past and for somebody (Vlad) to tell them what to do. They all couldn't make anything new and leave the shadow of Dracula in the past.

On the other side of the coin Isaac, Hector, Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard were willing to change or let themselves be changed by looking towards the future.

Blaise330 posted:

Actually kind of funny that Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard never met Carmilla, Isaac, and Hector once.


I'm okay with "I choose to live" being his final line.

I couldn't stand either one at first, but Isaac and Hector turned out to be alright people. And they both had some good lines.

The Last Call posted:

I don't really believe Lenore is dead, she went straight to ash or looked like was the case, no horrible burning up like the rest of the vamps so can't help but think that she pulled a fast one and used a magic trick to up and vanish.


It was very True Blood wasn't it? Almost like she ascended or something. Or maybe it was just because it didn't involve any violence.

itry fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 14, 2021

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I assumed that Lenore's death was a much, much gentler version of Carmilla's suicide. It was quick, clean, and easy precisely because she wanted it to be that way.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
It was just because nobody wanted to see Lenore burn in loving agony when she's committing suicide.

Nestharken
Mar 23, 2006

The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.
Blasted through the whole thing last night, what a treat. I can't think of many other shows that kept getting better with each season and also stuck the landing for all of the main characters at the end.

I was prepared for at least one downer ending, but pretty much everyone managed to do ok for themselves. Turns out the ultimate twist for a grimdark historical fantasy story was to have things end on a wholesome note.

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

I Am Fowl posted:

It was just because nobody wanted to see Lenore burn in loving agony when she's committing suicide.

They would have wanted to see that if...

She stayed the purely manipulative and abusive person she was shown to be at the end of season three. One criticism I see with this season was that a lot of characters went in different ways than they were being shown and it's hard to deny that. Ellis getting the boot likely changed the direction things were going. Lenore straight up gas lit Hector and made him into her pet, this season and she's protective of him and flirting freely. Hector himself doesn't appear to be in a bad way at all really compared to what happened at the previous season. The binding ring doesn't even seem to be that much of an issue with him planning out his own betrayal. Yeah I know, they said it gives them control of the night creatures as well but overall it's purpose is very much lessened.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
The season felt kinda just okay to me, trying to bring together all these storylines. Some good fights along the way. And then they just knocked it out of the loving park in the penultimate episode.

The vampire guy who ripped his own arm off and threw it at the heroes after Trevor hit it with his chain. What a badass

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 15, 2021

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
All I can verbalize for now is that It was great and not soulkilling like season3 was..

Wanderer posted:

I think the people in Targoviste might be okay, since the people aboveground are going to go down to the scene of the fighting to find a bunch of dead nobles, no living king or queen, and an immense amount of gold and treasure.

Also, even with Sypha's two-week grief vacation, I have to figure she's type-A enough that she'd eventually want to head back there and follow up.


There were at least some survivors in the underground, and presumably all vampires and monsters were dead. Plenty of chances that the people above at least found the gold and water.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




That city was never going to recover. Dracula destroyed it and its population. The best the remaining people can do is leave.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
This season was a video game in TV form and that’s what this series should’ve been from the get-go

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Barudak posted:

Their video games revenue was up 35% YoY and brought in around a billion dollars. I keep repeating myself but Konami's gaming division isn't just more profitable than it was 5 or 10 years ago, its growing.

For a little color to this, I worked at a small to medium sized casino(about 1,600 machines) pre-Covid and we had about 16 Konami machines. Konami is one the bigger leasees to casinos worldwide since their machines have highly interactable game modes which is the hot thing right now. It'll vary by contract but they'll get ~$65-85 per day per machine and 1% of the hold. At any given time Konami will have close to 10k machines in circulation worldwide.


Oasx posted:

Oh, I assumed Warren Ellis had no involvement in this season.

He's just the writer and the script had been turned in long before the allegations came out.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

itry posted:

Searched the thread for Artorias but didn't see anything. That armored fight scene was straight out of Dark Souls.

It's the berserker armour from Berserk, one of the most influential mangas in history. Artorias is explicitly riffing the same character.

Although to come to think of it, they are bringing along the fabric elements from Artorias, so maybe it's a second generation reference? Can't imagine Ellis isn't aware of Berserk though.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




It's probably both, but I meant the moveset. Unless that's Berserk too.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

itry posted:

It's probably both, but I meant the moveset. Unless that's Berserk too.

There are key frames that are ripped straight from the comic, but the wild overhead smash is from the game.

Yeah, I've talked myself into it being both.

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
Five eps in and really enjoying the fourth season so far.

That armor fight was :black101: as gently caress. I thought more Artorias than Guts because of the wild hair and short cape, but it's a moot point. There better be more wild feral style fighting in the future or I'ma be pissed.

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Few artistic elements this season definitely remind of Berserk

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

Regalingualius posted:

Seems like more confirmation that they already have something in the pipeline

No I think they're just dumping concept art, wips, and reference materials.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
They certainly leave the series with a lot of hooks that can be used to make more though. Even just them chosing Trevor over Simon as the main character from the start says they can always do something later on. Maybe a movie or something else.

KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

This show would have been way better if they never attempted the vampire-castle-intrigue storyline.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
As someone who has had a lot of lovely managers that I've had to make look good, this show having a cumulative total of like 8 hours worth of people bitching about Carmilla and Dracula giving them impossible tasks gives me a lot to empathize with.

Blaise330 fucked around with this message at 20:45 on May 15, 2021

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
Castlevania Season 4: Slackula.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

kneelbeforezog posted:

Just out of curiosity, why was this show made but not more well known IPs that have had games released in the past 2 decades? Is it because vampires always sell? I mean why not a series on the Diablo franchise.

The show had a really long development cycle. The first two seasons mostly came from a movie Ellis was hired to write back in 07-08. That's why Isaac and Hector had such large roles despite coming from a largely forgotten game in the series, it was the most recent large scale game in the series.

It largely languished in development hell, until Sam Deats, who was a big fan of the games, got a development deal with Netflix and untangled who had the current rights to the script.

Diabetic
Sep 29, 2006

When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world Diabeetus.

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

The show had a really long development cycle. The first two seasons mostly came from a movie Ellis was hired to write back in 07-08. That's why Isaac and Hector had such large roles despite coming from a largely forgotten game in the series, it was the most recent large scale game in the series.

It largely languished in development hell, until Sam Deats, who was a big fan of the games, got a development deal with Netflix and untangled who had the current rights to the script.

Wow, that long ago? I really hope the spin off deals with the other parts in the series, but the ending kinda seems like that's not going to be happening.

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I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
Castlevania S4: Don't you think that's weirdly hosed up?

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