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President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
can what is “authentic” change over time?

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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

President Beep posted:

can what is “authentic” change over time?

it used to be able to yeah, but not anymore. authentic is defined relative to 1975 now, going forward.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

fart simpson posted:

it used to be able to yeah, but not anymore. authentic is defined relative to 1975 now, going forward.

your one fucker up mother fucker

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Jonny 290 posted:

muthafuckin TURKEY BULGOGI NIGHT (i don't eat beef any more really)



* 1 lb ground turkey
* 8 oz shiitake
* 1 cup or so shredded carrots
* bean sprouts (as much or little as you like*

saucy stuff:

* soy
* garlic
* ginger
* gochujang
* gochugaru
* white or brown sugar
* shaoxing or mirin


mix up the sauce. I'm not going to give proportions because everybody's different. i go ginger heavy. Make a half cup to a cup or so.

Now pour half over the ground turkey in a container and mix well. let it percolate in the fridge for a half hour or so.

start the rice cooker here

Heat up a pan, doesnt loving matter. whatever. Dump in the turkey and cook until it is done, then a couple minutes more to evap most of the liquid. Pull turkey

Now throw in carrots and mushrooms. splash of oil. saute for about five minutes or so until the carrots are soft and sweet and the mushrooms are getting happy.

Add the meat back in, stir, pour in other half of the sauce. Cook while stirring for a few minutes.

Throw in bean sprouts, kill the heat, mix and serve over calrose with scallion on top.

--

May not be authentic but it's loving delicious.
this looks and sounds great. will give it a shot

small comment: canned (no sugar added) pears mashed/blended/diced really add something to korean bulgogi when i've made it. in case you haven't tried

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
surely authentic means something along the lines of "as if it were made in the dishes origin", and in a lot of cases if it was strictly adhered would probably also mean, limited to only their limited local ingredients, and without the benefit of modern cooking technology and knowledge.

which also makes you wonder if a modern version of a traditional dish from the dishes origin, and all they've changed is used newer probably better ingredients and cooking techniques.. is that authentic? suppose now you've got multiple streams of authenticity


this is a picture of an authentic american meal

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

echinopsis posted:

this is a picture of an authentic american meal



its true. it doesnt get more american than that.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
authentic chocolate fountain


and authentic american pizza (this was a tgi fridays)

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
behold this classic authentic "home style"

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
authentic Texas Roadhouse

echinopsis fucked around with this message at 15:17 on May 14, 2021

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

echinopsis posted:

apparently this is authentic Texas Roadhouse



i'd eat 1/4 to 1/3 of that if you adjusted the white balance, then id take the rest home to eat tomorrow

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
you gonna anti-food porn about authenticity? maybe just read zenny the art of motorcycle maine tenets about it!!

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

i'm gonna make something good for dinner to counter all the negativity in here

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

echinopsis posted:

surely authentic means something along the lines of "as if it were made in the dishes origin", and in a lot of cases if it was strictly adhered would probably also mean, limited to only their limited local ingredients, and without the benefit of modern cooking technology and knowledge.

which also makes you wonder if a modern version of a traditional dish from the dishes origin, and all they've changed is used newer probably better ingredients and cooking techniques.. is that authentic? suppose now you've got multiple streams of authenticity


this is a picture of an authentic american meal



authenticity levels off the chart, no doubt

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

President Beep posted:

can what is “authentic” change over time?

No, for example you have authentically bad posts.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
GGGAAHHHh! :tizzy:

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



few things in america can be considered authentic but this


this is authentic

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



anyway here's the "authentic" cat face joe chicken

season a four pound chicken with kosher salt and let it sit for a bit and mix two tablespoons of kosher salt with two cups of buttermilk til it dissolves. put it and the chicken in a ziploc bag and put it in the fridge for a day flipping it a couple times.

take it out and let it sit for an hour before removing it from the bag and wiping all the buttermilk off. tie the legs together and put it in a roasting pan on top of a bunch of red skin potatoes cut in half and about a half inch of salted water or stock or whatever. push it all the way to the back of a 425° oven for 20 minutes. turn it down to 400 and move it to the center but turn the whole thing 180°. cook it til its about 165 internally and then let it sit for 15 minutes covered in a sheet of foil

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

its more authentic to take it out once it hits 115 and let t rest from there

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Eating some food

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
the best way to cook a chicken is to cut out the backbone and roast it flat on a bed of potatos & onions until the skin is really crispy

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

rotor posted:

the best way to cook a chicken is to cut out the backbone and roast it flat on a bed of potatos & onions until the skin is really crispy
i can't believe someone had the fortitude to resist typing "spatchcock". rats off to you rotor

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


you can grill the ol' spatched cock pretty well too

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

rotor posted:

the best way to cook a chicken is to cut out the backbone and roast it flat on a bed of potatos & onions until the skin is really crispy

literally the only way i cook whole chickens and turkeys these days. you get a whole big fuckin turkey done on the holidays in 45 minutes it’s great

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
ive never tried to spatchcock a turkey but it seems like cutting out the spine would be fucken tough compared to little chickens, do kitchen shears still work on the rib bones of turkeys?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

rotor posted:

the best way to cook a chicken is to cut out the backbone and roast it flat on a bed of potatos & onions until the skin is really crispy

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Corla Plankun posted:

ive never tried to spatchcock a turkey but it seems like cutting out the spine would be fucken tough compared to little chickens, do kitchen shears still work on the rib bones of turkeys?

Gotta tier up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Kx89J_EcI&t=13s

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Corla Plankun posted:

ive never tried to spatchcock a turkey but it seems like cutting out the spine would be fucken tough compared to little chickens, do kitchen shears still work on the rib bones of turkeys?

yup though i recommend having a beefy pair. it does take some hand strength tho

today i made some sugar free seed butter cookies. super tasty.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

mediaphage posted:

yup though i recommend having a beefy pair. it does take some hand strength tho

today i made some sugar free seed butter cookies. super tasty.



what seeds

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Eeyo posted:

what seeds

25% each hemp, chia, flax, pumpkin seed (the green ones)

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

big fan of hemp seeds in yogurt

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
i find them a bit fishgrassy (all those omega3s) for my taste tbh, especially on their own. they do have a pleasant texture, though. i like adding chias.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
isn’t that called butterfly chicken? ironic since chickens can’t fly

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

echinopsis posted:

isn’t that called butterfly chicken? ironic since chickens can’t fly

thats what i always called it yes

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
thankgod cos everyone else is mega sexualising it and it makes me uncomfortable

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
you have less justification for clutching pearls than literally anybody else in this forum.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
theoretically spatchcocking deals with an entire bird and butterflying has dealt with specific parts (e.g., a butterflied chicken breast) but they’re often used synonymously

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

echinopsis posted:

thankgod cos everyone else is mega sexualising it and it makes me uncomfortable

100% agree

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

mediaphage posted:

theoretically spatchcocking deals with an entire bird and butterflying has dealt with specific parts (e.g., a butterflied chicken breast) but they’re often used synonymously
yeah. spatchcock is when you halve a whole fowl, to roast or grill, generally you cut it open at the spine but leave the rest of the bones intact. birds only!!

butterflying is for pretty much any protein, generally you have to cut into it to get it to work. plus you can do it with other cooking methods like (pan) frying

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
you don't have to remove a bird's spine but it can be easier than cleaving through it vertically

regardless of the method's name, it's pro af for chicken

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jonny 290 posted:

you have less justification for clutching pearls than literally anybody else in this forum.

idk what clutching pearls means but I hope its not a pearl necklace reference

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