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Never. No incentive to. They either don't give a gently caress about the game, coded it so poorly that patching is nearly impossible, or both. Probably both. Twitch viewership has gone from a regular 40k per night to 1k. Game is dead.
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# ? May 12, 2021 00:57 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 21:54 |
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Crunch is bad, right?
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# ? May 12, 2021 00:59 |
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bamhand posted:Game is dead. from the very beginning they said it wasn't a live game xD
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# ? May 12, 2021 02:04 |
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I just want sone minor tweaks. Just give me WL no time limit expeditions and we can call it done
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# ? May 12, 2021 02:27 |
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bamhand posted:Never. No incentive to. They either don't give a gently caress about the game, coded it so poorly that patching is nearly impossible, or both. Probably both. The poo poo you guys talk about must have been cool cause I never saw it. Bought the game with a buddy cause we wanted something to coop during days off. We couldn't play it for a couple of weeks due to it being straight broken then they kept breaking other crap and since we only could play a couple of days a week and it never seemed to work when we tried. We've given up on it at this point, still only in like the third snow mountain area after the spider boss. Only game I've ever genuinely wish I could return in years. I even felt I got my money's worth out of avengers, at least we played that for a few weeks till we did all the content and it was buggy and crashed but it still worked more consistently than this. Cyberpunk too, that's drat near playable now. Don't got high hopes for outriders. Guess it's hood's turn.
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# ? May 12, 2021 04:03 |
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While I definitely feel I got my hours out of it so I’m ultimately fine with buying it, I’ve never done a heel turn so fast as with this game from “this games going to be a problem in terms of invested hours” to “hey remember that game?”
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# ? May 12, 2021 05:29 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:from the very beginning they said it wasn't a live game xD Did they ever try to explain or justify why their not-live game had to be always online?
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# ? May 12, 2021 16:44 |
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Most likely answer is that they're poo poo at coding. And that was the easiest/laziest way to they could get the coop to work. Like the re-roll exploit is an indication of awful code. Having scenarios where it's possible to have a mismatch between the in game data and the saved data is how you get broken saves. bamhand fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 12, 2021 |
# ? May 12, 2021 16:53 |
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Father Wendigo posted:Did they ever try to explain or justify why their not-live game had to be always online? My guess is that they original were going to go the games-as-a-service route, then by the time they decided against that it was too late.
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:23 |
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the end game is hateful trash and I have never dropped a loot-mans faster... couldn't get through a second post-game expedition.
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# ? May 12, 2021 17:48 |
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We've had some crashes and difficulty joining games if the hosting client was online too long, but have been playing co-op through the whole story and going up a couple expedition tiers each night on Xbox. It's been a lot more fun since they sped up most of the loading screens after the first big patch. My main issue is the skill trees needing some more interesting choices, and some clarification/bug fixes on skills that are ambiguous on who is getting the benefit. Longer term, I'd like some more stat variety on gear, but the enemy and map variety isn't too bad at this point. It seems like fairly low effort to add maps and tweak encounters to keep things mixed up, but there's certainly other things worth working on first. It's buggier than it should be, there's exploitable race conditions with (mostly)easily replaceable gear, and joining/leaving sessions is frustrating about a third of the time, but the core gameplay is enjoyable for us. Fixing skill/ability/loot consistency will make it feel mostly solid, and tweaking stats/maps for balance and variety is easy enough to do whenever. For contrast, I was really excited about Borderlands 3; but the story sucked, maps and gameplay got old quicker, and the endgame and loot all blended together. I haven't been back to check out much of the dlc yet, but still feel like I'm having more fun with a crashier Outriders.
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# ? May 12, 2021 19:10 |
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Floppychop posted:My guess is that they original were going to go the games-as-a-service route, then by the time they decided against that it was too late. Or, have the ability to make it a service, by adding microtransactions and drip feeding stupid nonsense.
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# ? May 12, 2021 21:27 |
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Ok I need to bitch about this fuckin game for a second. I really wanted something different to play besides D2 and this game is on gamepass so why not give it a shot? I started playing yesterday and I was really digging the story at the start and the gun play seems pretty fun! First off why the gently caress does it take 800 years to log in? I'm on a Series X but it takes like forever to log into their poo poo servers. Second and probably the most annoying thing of all I figured why not try some MP today? I'm not very far into the game so I assumed (wrongly) that it would match me with people on the same main quest as me. Nope it matched me with some dude playing through the very start of the game. Well fair enough might as well help him out. So I help him finish his quest and for whatever reason his connection takes a poo poo and it drops me back to the main screen so I have to wait 800 years to log in again. I log in and I noticed that my quest log shows me right back at the start of Rift town. Well that can't be right because I rescued that fucker yesterday and I was on my way to the solar tower! I check everything and nope it seems like I'm back to the start except one of the side quests I picked up is still in my log and all of the notes that I unlocked are still there as well. I also did some side quest where I kill a captain and it seems as though that is still cleared because the NPCs are talking about him being dead. Like I know I'm not very far into the game but that first rescue quest was kinda a bitch as a low level technomancer and I really don't feel like doing it again. I'm half assed debating on just calling it quits because losing progress for no reason that I can think of is a load of bullshit. Unless there is something I'm totally missing here. The gun play seems really fun so far and I am enjoying the world building and story so I'm kinda torn.
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# ? May 12, 2021 21:51 |
MarcusSA posted:I check everything and nope it seems like I'm back to the start except one of the side quests I picked up is still in my log and all of the notes that I unlocked are still there as well. I also did some side quest where I kill a captain and it seems as though that is still cleared because the NPCs are talking about him being dead. On the lobby screen, choose Select Story Point and set it to where you were.
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# ? May 12, 2021 23:18 |
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Nate405 posted:On the lobby screen, choose Select Story Point and set it to where you were. Tried that and it wouldn’t let me go back to where I was. Only gave me the option to start from where I needed to rescue the Jakob. I just lowered the WL and did it again. The fight was still a bitch though.
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# ? May 13, 2021 00:00 |
MarcusSA posted:Tried that and it wouldn’t let me go back to where I was. Only gave me the option to start from where I needed to rescue the Jakob. Yeah you ran into the biggest complaints we have about this game all at once. It had such great potential, but welp
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# ? May 13, 2021 01:31 |
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RubberBands Hurt posted:Longer term This is the funny part. The always-online, the cheat detection, the one kneejerk nerf round, the existing expedition structure sucking... that's it. There is no longer term.
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# ? May 13, 2021 02:40 |
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quote:Latest update - 13.05.21 lol dont back out of games, in the game that puts you with people hosting from a cruise ship
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# ? May 13, 2021 21:40 |
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quote:We are additionally looking at what we can do to short-term mitigate particularly against "one shot kills" from certain enemies such as Brood Mothers. However, as such changes would affect everyone, rather than just those who have encountered the issue, we need to be careful here. If we do go down this route these changes may be a potential holdover till the patch releases, but we will share more news around this when we can. God forbid someone might be able to benefit slightly in your non competitive game.
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# ? May 13, 2021 23:03 |
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I love how they tried to make a fun coop looter shooter but because of scaling it totally sucks rear end to play in a group.
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# ? May 13, 2021 23:11 |
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I tried to play this game three times. Two times the servers were down, and the third time I was able to play for 20 minutes before the servers went down and it made me lose a bunch of progress. Now all I read about is them patching stuff like this is a competitive game, and each note makes me not ever want to try it again because it sounds less fun. Not that I could even really play it in the first place.
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# ? May 13, 2021 23:12 |
Codependent Poster posted:I tried to play this game three times. Two times the servers were down, and the third time I was able to play for 20 minutes before the servers went down and it made me lose a bunch of progress. yeah i gave up on finishing the really cool single player story I was invested in because I couldn't loving sign in for a week
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# ? May 13, 2021 23:21 |
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I'd really love some insight into their minds regarding why they're treating balance like an mmo where it's bad to overpower plates cause they'll stop paying for your game when it's a single player game that is paid for and done with
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# ? May 14, 2021 00:08 |
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bamhand posted:God forbid someone might be able to benefit slightly in your non competitive game. from, not to brood mothers would sometimes kill you 100-0 at random it's been a bug since launch and never got looked at
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# ? May 14, 2021 00:21 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:from, not to They're saying they don't want to put a temporary fix in for it because then people not affected by the bug would benefit by taking less damage from brood mothers.
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# ? May 14, 2021 00:25 |
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fast cars loose anus posted:I'd really love some insight into their minds regarding why they're treating balance like an mmo where it's bad to overpower plates cause they'll stop paying for your game when it's a single player game that is paid for and done with For the same reason that cheaters are literally worse than triple hitler and you must have a punishment for them in your non-competitive barely-even-co-op game: because this is what people, in general, expect. The ideas of competitive and non-competitive games have been mashed together and everyone is too brokebrained from years of this poo poo to know any different.
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# ? May 14, 2021 00:49 |
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As far as I can tell the anti-cheat doesn't even do anything. It doesn't take a lot of digging to find numerous reddit threads about people using cheatengine to tweak drop rates, or give themselves enough damage to 1 shot every enemy, etc.
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# ? May 14, 2021 00:54 |
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Mailer posted:For the same reason that cheaters are literally worse than triple hitler and you must have a punishment for them in your non-competitive barely-even-co-op game: because this is what people, in general, expect. The ideas of competitive and non-competitive games have been mashed together and everyone is too brokebrained from years of this poo poo to know any different. I hate this and its true. Also the damage mitigation thing is only part of the problem somehow. My friend and I were doing even higher damage post-patch than pre-patch (meaning enemies just had more health) and we weren't able to complete Expeds on CTs we were golding before. Maybe I'm insane but it sure seemed like on top of surviveability tanking they made the enemies tankier, or some loving poo poo.
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# ? May 14, 2021 02:02 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:As far as I can tell the anti-cheat doesn't even do anything. It doesn't take a lot of digging to find numerous reddit threads about people using cheatengine to tweak drop rates, or give themselves enough damage to 1 shot every enemy, etc. Easy anti cheat only checks to see if cheat engine is running. The cheat table guys have dlls to replace the eac stuff. I haven't tried it out tho. But lol getting a cheater watermark in your solo looter shooter isnt gonna amount to much.
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# ? May 14, 2021 09:15 |
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The saddest part of it all (as others have stated) is that this is all sad because there's a really good game in there. I'm still enjoying doing expeditions with friends and messing with goofy builds, and I definitely got my money's worth, but yeah, this is / was sooooo close to being a big hit.
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# ? May 14, 2021 13:09 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:As far as I can tell the anti-cheat doesn't even do anything. It doesn't take a lot of digging to find numerous reddit threads about people using cheatengine to tweak drop rates, or give themselves enough damage to 1 shot every enemy, etc. Correct. It does nothing - in SP. You just use a bypass for EAC and have to stay in SP and it doesn't seem to trigger the flagging - last I checked anyway I was still unflagged after loving with my drop rates and getting a mountain of legendary items. You cannot join MP games though - at all. But you can play solo with a bypass, gear up, remove the bypass and go back to MP...you'll keep the gear but obviously not the godmode/super dmg. Here is the best part. After selling my mountain of cheated legendaries, they gave me a bunch perfected ones right back as part of the patch to restore lost items.....
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# ? May 14, 2021 17:24 |
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Man they were were able to build a lot of poo poo before things went south! Like it kinda doesn’t make sense but I’ve switched that part of my brain off and am just enjoying the ride. I do like the story though and I’m invested enough to see it through at this point despite the few issues I have with the game. I think I’m gonna keep the WL set one below max though because I just don’t want to deal with the frustration
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# ? May 14, 2021 20:57 |
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I did think the story was surprisingly good. Though my bar was set pretty low.
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# ? May 14, 2021 20:58 |
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bamhand posted:I did think the story was surprisingly good. Though my bar was set pretty low. I’m really just enjoying how my lady is having a poo poo day and can’t be hosed with a lot of this stuff. Like someone gets sniped and she’s all just like *sigh* moving on!
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# ? May 14, 2021 21:01 |
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The very first time it happened I was like hmmmmm and then it just kept getting funnier and funnier. Definitely better than most.
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# ? May 14, 2021 21:42 |
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I got a sensible chuckle over her explanation for what "going medieval" on someone means. Just kept going and going.
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# ? May 14, 2021 21:46 |
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That's the worst bit. The story was good... The gunplay was good. The classes and the skill and weapon modification were a cracking good start. Even the progression unlock rate was decent. Yeah it could have been smoother but there was plenty to do and I really enjoyed the side quests along the way. Then it just poo poo the bed so hard in single player and multiplayer at the end game and was like they stopped development entirely. It's maddening. I absolutely got my moneysworth and don't regret it at all but drat it had the potential with so few changes to be a thousand hour game not a hundred hour one.
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# ? May 15, 2021 00:27 |
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FileNotFound posted:Correct. It does nothing - in SP. You just use a bypass for EAC and have to stay in SP and it doesn't seem to trigger the flagging - last I checked anyway I was still unflagged after loving with my drop rates and getting a mountain of legendary items. Which trainer/bypass did you use?
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# ? May 17, 2021 01:02 |
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the amount of people who have said "got my money's worth" is directly equivalent to how bad the game actually is / got.
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# ? May 17, 2021 01:20 |
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Ben Quebec posted:the amount of people who have said "got my money's worth" is directly equivalent to how bad the game actually is / got. I got my money’s worth because it was free lmao
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