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Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Mirificus posted:

Have you just discover video games today or something like that ?

We spend most of our time playing a god-like character killing everything it sees without even asking and you place the bar on virtual slavery ?

This is why I get pissed when chuds say they're the only PCs in a world filled with NPCs. Being a PC isn't an inherently good thing because lots of games allow the PC to run around murdering everything in sight for the sake of "beating" the game.

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mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

"fun and educational"

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Yaldabaoth posted:

This is why I get pissed when chuds say they're the only PCs in a world filled with NPCs. Being a PC isn't an inherently good thing because lots of games allow the PC to run around murdering everything in sight for the sake of "beating" the game.

I’ve never really acted like that

I tried to do a bad guy play though of alpha protocol but I felt bad

Also I did kill the dark souls merchant for his cool sword but not on the first play though

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Yaldabaoth posted:

This is why I get pissed when chuds say they're the only PCs in a world filled with NPCs. Being a PC isn't an inherently good thing because lots of games allow the PC to run around murdering everything in sight for the sake of "beating" the game.

To them, that's a feature.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Regarde Aduck posted:

I’ve never really acted like that

I tried to do a bad guy play though of alpha protocol but I felt bad

Also I did kill the dark souls merchant for his cool sword but not on the first play though

The original Fallout games give you a ton of leeway to be a bad / amoral guy if you want, and have it pay off nicely in many cases (looting shopkeepers for powerful gear, for instance) but it always feels weird

I think it's in Fallout 2, but there's a shopkeeper near the beginning who has a ton of ammo and some real nice guns / armor on him if you kill him, and you can do it out of view of other people and totally get away with it and end up really well equipped for the start of the game, but I feel bad about doing it every time

dracky
Nov 8, 2010

I get wanting to let loose and blow stuff up for fun, but some of these guys have a Dickensian fantasy of sending players to workhouses and debtor's prisons. The toil and drudgery makes it all the more exciting when you finally work your way into the good graces of a wealthy patron who provides you with enough credits to become a gentleman

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Code Jockey posted:

I think it's in Fallout 2, but there's a shopkeeper near the beginning who has a ton of ammo and some real nice guns / armor on him if you kill him, and you can do it out of view of other people and totally get away with it and end up really well equipped for the start of the game, but I feel bad about doing it every time

Just tell yourself he was a diddler.

War Wizard
Jan 4, 2007

:)

Shumagorath posted:

"how will my slavery mechanic be safe from griefers"

Probably with some sorta ⅗ compromise.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Shumagorath posted:

"how will my slavery mechanic be safe from griefers" is pretty on-brand for this fanbase

Isn't that what started the US civil war?

Edit: I should read to the end of threads before replying.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Code Jockey posted:

I think it's in Fallout 2, but there's a shopkeeper near the beginning who has a ton of ammo and some real nice guns / armor on him if you kill him, and you can do it out of view of other people and totally get away with it and end up really well equipped for the start of the game, but I feel bad about doing it every time

This is commendably civic minded.

For if all the gunshop owners were killed, where could players buy guns and ammo?

defaultluser
Jan 13, 2007

The person can drink sake for the following five reasons. First of all, for the national holiday. Moreover, it fills with the nectar. Finally, for reasons. Next, to heal the dryness of the place. After that, to refuse the future
Fun Shoe
In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









defaultluser posted:

In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.

Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will.

Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect.

However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps.

Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection.

All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever.

Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed.

Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable.

Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average.

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed.

The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.

oddly arousing if true

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




quote:

Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day

A million a day? That's terrible.


quote:

At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule.

Oh, I guess the 1 million a day who get eaten are just a rounding error.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









I'm perplexed about the upside of restaurant-going under this regime

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




sebmojo posted:

I'm perplexed about the upside of restaurant-going under this regime

"You can stay home and cower in the basement if you want, the rest of us are going to live our lives." -- Stimpire Boomers, probably.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Patrons had to eat air-fried food, the worst kind of low fat cooking.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Facebook Aunt posted:

"You can stay home and cower in the basement if you want, the rest of us are going to live our lives." -- Stimpire Boomers, probably.

"Going out for civil meat is a family tradition. My father ate civil meat every week, right up until he was ground up into civil meat and served to the rest of us on my birthday."

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Civil meat is an incredible phrase

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

dracky posted:

I get wanting to let loose and blow stuff up for fun, but some of these guys have a Dickensian fantasy of sending players to workhouses and debtor's prisons. The toil and drudgery makes it all the more exciting when you finally work your way into the good graces of a wealthy patron who provides you with enough credits to become a gentleman

A lot of these guys are chuds, and so are mean, petty, disgusting people who thrive on the misery of their fellow man and lust after wearing a slavemasters badge.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

defaultluser posted:

{The Stimpire}
Can I just say that I read this every time it's posted?
It's absolutely confusing and hilarious ("worst type of electricity," "being injected with insanity," "civil meat," etc.).

I wish someone would write about the Fifth Stimpire...

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


JazzFlight posted:

Can I just say that I read this every time it's posted?
It's absolutely confusing and hilarious ("worst type of electricity," "being injected with insanity," "civil meat," etc.).



"make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable."

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

sebmojo posted:

I'm perplexed about the upside of restaurant-going under this regime

the restaurants weren't doing so great but then they got their stimpulus checks

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem
I like the 14th of July children having silver liquid skeletons. Just... :psyduck:

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
*Arby's voice* WE HAVE THE CIVIL MEATS



I'm pretty sure I've made that exact post before but gently caress it

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

HJE-Cobra posted:

I like the 14th of July children having silver liquid skeletons. Just... :psyduck:

Welcome to the Stimpire, Citizen. Please insert your genitals into the pain mulcher.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Flannelette posted:

"make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable."

This is inevitably someone's fetish and they are petitioning to get it in the game.

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.

defaultluser posted:

There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards.


Sir, this the DMV.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

a mysterious cloak posted:

This is inevitably someone's fetish and they are petitioning to get it in the game.

That's 1000% that I thought as soon as I read that line

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

This wish was granted by Former DILF

literally indistinguishable from Q anon people

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




The storm is coming. An electrical storm. The worst kind.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

To preface, I know essentially nothing about video game design. But just using common sense, you'd think you'd want to work from start to finish. That is, work outward from the most important gameplay elements like movement, piloting a ship, firing a gun, etc. Make sure your engine can actually perform these requirements, even if all the characters and NPCs and ships are just blank placeholders with no animations or fancy graphics. See if you can get dozens and dozens of people doing all kinds of different actions smoothly. First person gun battles, ship battles, movement, mining, etc. Work on the netcode that will allow players from all over to seamlessly participate.

Then, only once you've got the actual gameplay locked down do you move on to things like pushing and pulling carts (lol), start bringing in the improved the graphics in a way that doesn't overstrain the engine, modeling individual sand particles and ship parts if you are really spergin it, etc.

They did the opposite, started with grand promises and resource-intensive graphics on very specific things and are now discovering how little of what they promised they will actually be able to do. They've given themselves a Sisyphean task as I don't think you can just keep piling on code in something this complex and expect it to just work out. Eventually the bugs will go so deep that there is essentially no fixing them, at least with ease and without affecting a ton of other stuff. The game already looks, to me, deeply deeply broken on a fundamental level.

Basically it's all back-asswards as far as I can tell

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I'm sure this has been asked already, but does the Stimpire thing stem even vaguely from shart citizen, or is it just some rando's ravings on their game forums?

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

a mysterious cloak posted:

I'm sure this has been asked already, but does the Stimpire thing stem even vaguely from shart citizen, or is it just some rando's ravings on their game forums?

The latter. Official SC backstory lacks the creativity and the... perversion to come up with something like that. It's very standard and pretty boring fare from the official story

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



The Elite Dangerous Odyssey DLC, allowing for first person exploration of planets and space stations, just released. I don't play ED (or SC for that matter), but lol forever that ED devs built FPS functionality on a lark, using the Cobra 3D engine that (as far as I know) wasn't originally designed to support FPS, and they did it faster than the SC devs could fix their elevators to not kill people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAb3nH5Eilo

maxe
Sep 23, 2004

BLURRED SWEET STREETLIGHTS SPEEDING PAST, FAST

my SC thread ritual is to let it build up to ~20 unread pages then drop in and read it until someone posts Stimpire, thats my little bookmark. its always nice to leave on a high note

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
The 69th Stimpire is generally known as the nicest Stimpire

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

JazzFlight posted:

Can I just say that I read this every time it's posted?
It's absolutely confusing and hilarious ("worst type of electricity," "being injected with insanity," "civil meat," etc.).

I wish someone would write about the Fifth Stimpire...

Same. Every time there's a new discovery. It's just so dense that you always catch new things when you reread it.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010



This person looked at the state of SC in 2016 and decided to hop on board? The fuk?!

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Wasn’t the Christmas stream in 2016? That’s when I jumped onboard, in a sense.

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Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


It was when they did a bunch of publicity stuff but it was also the point when they couldn't hide endless bugs, wasted money, shut down studios, key head staff disapearing and missed deadlines with "still in development" '14 '15 was when it became obvious the game was a giant scam that wasn't going anywhere.

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