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Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Andy Dufresne posted:

I haven't dug into it, but wouldn't you expect the pool to assign a unique starting point to every miner every block to ensure there's no collision?
The "what is the dumbest / most harmful answer possible" heuristic suggests that, for search space n, coordinating seeds among m miners where m << n requires investment in supervision you could just spend on increasing the size of m and allowing for some wasted work.

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Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Cirrhosis Johnson posted:

Somewhat related, but I wonder what might be a good solution to rampant inflation in the US. Bitcoin looks good on paper, but it’s shortcomings make it clear that’s it not-sustainable long-term. I’m also not holding my breath on the government stopping an increase in the money supply anytime soon.

I don't believe you understand any of the words in this post

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

InternetJunky posted:

I'm still kind of stuck on this 7 max transactions per second feature of bitcoin. Shouldn't this be the lead for any anti-bitcoin argument? Aren't the people who are "investing" in bitcoin doing so under the assumption that it will be the currency of the future?

Does ETH and other altcoins suffer from the same build-in limitations on transactions per second?

"Transactions per second" is misleading, because transactions get processed as part of new blocks, which happen about every 10 minutes for Bitcoin. And you then need to wait for a few more block to be reasonably sure your transaction has been included in the blockchain, and not just in an orphaned side chain.

Some other cryptocurrencies mint blocks faster and have larger transaction size limits, but the fundamental problem is still that blockchains can't process transactions fast, as minting too many blocks in short sequence greatly increases the likelihood of parallel chains developing.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Cirrhosis Johnson posted:

Give me your top 3.

Well, you could talk about wage pressures, issues with the supply and demand of goods. All of which the recent pandemic impacted with huge changes to the jobs market, issues with the import and export of goods, etc.

All of which bitcoin does bugger all about on an economic level.

Not to mention that the last attempt to maintain a commodity backed currency ingloriously collapsed due to the various tensions that built up in the system as (vastly simplifying here) the economy increasingly got disconnected from the money supply.

Of course this is only addressing the goldbug, we need to go return to a commodity backed currency to prevent inflation, looneys which you seemed to invoke with your post and not the other delusional "bitcoin is going to remake the world" people.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Khorne posted:

did someone say layer 2 payment processor aka LIGHTNING NETWORK!! yet

using my decentralized currency as a currency doesn't work so I'll centralize payment processing and do transactions off the ledger

:thunk:

You aren’t allowed to get away with simplifying the immense stupidity of the Lightning Network like that.

I admit, this is off the top of my head but if I am super-wrong somebody will correct me because I’m an idiot nocoiiner.

When you want to use the Lightning Network to move money, both you and your depositor or receiver must open up which is basically a pre-funded line of credit. If you are a Satoshi short, you have to open another pre-funded line of credit. This can happen often and fast because of volatility in the price. To save time I split my pre-funded lines of credit with Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Walmart, McDonalds, Target, Wayne’s Deer Processing and Tax Service, Monero Child Porn LLC, Weed, Inc. , and Etsy. Hopefully you pre-funded enough to cover something you don’t know you want to buy yet, or have enough if the price of btc drops 27% in an hour. If not you have to pre-fund a new account to cover the difference. Repeat for every business you may want to do business with, and keep track of change wallets to recover penny shavings left orphaned. Make new wallets or accounts as needed.

I only saw the details once, and may be waaaay off. I hope I’m wrong, because last year I said the only thing dumber and more obfuscated than acquiring butts was funding the Lightning Network.

Please debunk me while I go to eat macaroni and hotdogs with my family. Of course I’ll be right back; I’m addicted to the Laffchain.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
Dan Harmon Making First Blockchain Animated Series as Fox Embraces Crypto

quote:

Fox is getting into the crypto game.

The broadcaster announced at its upfront presentation on Monday that Rick and Morty creator Dan Harmon’s new animated series will have groundbreaking technology involved in its distribution and marketing.

Harmon is making Krapopolis, an animated comedy set in mythical ancient Greece that’s “centered on a flawed family of humans, gods and monsters that tries to run one of the world’s first cities without killing each other.”

Yet Krapopolis is also going to be “the first-ever animated series curated entirely on the Blockchain” and mark the broadcaster network’s debut move into the NFT business. Fox says they also debuting a new NFT company called Blockchain Creative Labs.

“Not to go too far into it today, but as an advertiser-focused, artist-first and animation-obsessed company, Fox is going to take advertisers into the world of Blockchain-powered tokens, including NFTs,” Fox Entertainment CEO Charlie Collier told advertisers during the company’s presentation, which was streamed online. “And Dan’s series, currently entitled Krapopolis, will be the first-ever curated entirely on the blockchain. And just as we’re doing this for our own animation, we will also help your brands connect directly with fans and enthusiasts through NFTs. With and for you, Fox will help art meet brands meet technology.”

Fox will launch a dedicated marketplace for Krapopolis “that will curate and sell digital goods, ranging from NFTs of one-of-a-kind character and background art and GIFs, as well as tokens that provide exclusive social experiences to engage and reward super fans.” The show will be produced by Bento Box Entertainment.
Can’t wait!

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
bitcoin looks good on toilet paper

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

von Vicious posted:

its a store of value (SoV) don't you get it

“value” LMAO

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


How much cocaine do you have to snort before this starts making sense?

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

tango alpha delta posted:

speaking of DEBT, hey, have you guys heard about this crazy trick that you can unlock the money stuck inside your home with this crazy thing called a 'reverse mortgage'? it's totally safe and nothing could possibly go wrong!

e:the samrt thing to do would be to take the money from your reverse mortgage and invest it into crypto currency! the future is now, guys!

crypto is gambling for nerds.

e:Bitcoin, it's all about not being the guy holding the bag at the end.

Before the “solved sudoku traded for heroin” there was “a sort of bag-holder’s musical chairs.”

This was around the time zuarg (sp?) bought in.

Oldies night in the Buttcoin thread…

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Dog-dick coffee table

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

At first I thought it was a show about blockchain called Krapopolis and thought it was good, then I read the article and although I don't fully understand, I know it's bad.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I can't fault the guy for figuring out exactly how to milk the worst part of his fanbase

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

i'm crypto rick

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I bet Dan Harmon is like "uhhhhhh okay?"

Hamburger Sandwich
Nov 24, 2007
Is there a way that crypto smart contracts prevent piracy better than other distribution methods?

From my understanding of NTFs and ethereum there still nothing stopping one of the users from creating a rip

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013




Aside from a shitload of buzzwords what the gently caress is this even supposed to mean? Who the gently caress even cares? I've noticed that after the initial frenzy about NFTs there aren't mainstream news articles about them the last week or two, so I assume they've already moved into that space of quiet embarrassment and pretending they never happened. Is this just the marketing people being a month or so behind the curve?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

It's a junior executive who told a higher-up about how much stupid money is out there wrt The Blockchain, and then showed some articles about NFTs and said "and we can apply it to our newest offerings" and the higher-up, who is even dumber than the junior, said "make it happen".

The same thing happens when senators write questions for hearings and talk about how their kid is good at cyber- or whatever, and blahblahblah

Like everything with bitcoin it's just dumbasses playing telephone with one another

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Hamburger Sandwich posted:

Is there a way that crypto smart contracts prevent piracy better than other distribution methods?

From my understanding of NTFs and ethereum there still nothing stopping one of the users from creating a rip

PrtScr is not piracy. NFTs are really just receipts to a url. That’s all. If I want a Mona Lisa wallpaper background for my monitor your NFT doesn’t mean I can’t right click and save as. And DaVinci’s descendants can’t forbid me from storing a billion identical digital copies on my OneDrive neither can the NFT “owner.”

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Chadzok posted:

At first I thought it was a show about blockchain called Krapopolis and thought it was good, then I read the article and although I don't fully understand, I know it's bad.

"Have groundbreaking technology involved in its distribution and marketing" means, unless I'm mistaken, nothing without the next bit. "curated entirely on the Blockchain" suggests they're gonna make NFTs- again, hashed text files containing URLs- out of "curated" frames, which, judging by existing NFT poo poo, means every frame individually and also multiple frames in combination with each other.

Basically every episode is primarily an ad for its own NFTs, but a few months too late.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Inept posted:

i'm crypto rick

Don't be the one left holding the pickle.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Guys the show is called krapopulous.

As in poop.

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost
Blockchain !

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

spunkshui posted:

Guys the show is called krapopulous.

As in poop.

Should have called it Krapoopoopiss.

I'll open up my screen recorder and make a copy of it to watch later. While I poop.

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

Somfin posted:

"Have groundbreaking technology involved in its distribution and marketing" means, unless I'm mistaken, nothing without the next bit. "curated entirely on the Blockchain" suggests they're gonna make NFTs- again, hashed text files containing URLs- out of "curated" frames, which, judging by existing NFT poo poo, means every frame individually and also multiple frames in combination with each other.

Basically every episode is primarily an ad for its own NFTs, but a few months too late.

I can't wait until this show gets gifs, memes and even full episodes distributed across the web with no additional money in their coffers and the higher ups realise they've been duped by some kid with a completely flawed understanding of what NFTs actually are

catspleen
Sep 12, 2003

I orphaned his children. I widowed his wife.

jokes posted:

It's a junior executive who told a higher-up about how much stupid money is out there wrt The Blockchain, and then showed some articles about NFTs and said "and we can apply it to our newest offerings" and the higher-up, who is even dumber than the junior, said "make it happen".

The same thing happens when senators write questions for hearings and talk about how their kid is good at cyber- or whatever, and blahblahblah

Like everything with bitcoin it's just dumbasses playing telephone with one another

Yeah I’m convinced that this is just mainstream corporate America reacting as fast as possibly can to the half formed ideas of the failson filled bureaucracy that boiled down to a jr exec vp thinking they can make money off of this about 3 months ago.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Aside from a shitload of buzzwords what the gently caress is this even supposed to mean? Who the gently caress even cares? I've noticed that after the initial frenzy about NFTs there aren't mainstream news articles about them the last week or two, so I assume they've already moved into that space of quiet embarrassment and pretending they never happened. Is this just the marketing people being a month or so behind the curve?

This just happened a few days go. Average price of almost $1.9m per.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1392478668539056128

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die
That's kind of shocking, I also haven't heard much about NFTs lately. I listen to a sports radio station and the guys just couldn't shut up about NFTs 2 months ago - particularly NBA Top Shot.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
It all makes sense when you realize the buyers and sellers are the same people, so they gain infinite amount of publicity for just shuffling money around

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Diva Cupcake posted:

This just happened a few days go. Average price of almost $1.9m per.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1392478668539056128

"We don't know who bought this..."

Gosh, could it be the same guy who has been behind every single major NFT purchase. The one who has a business minting NFTs and needs to keep generating headlines about the market?

"The NFT community says the price should be even higher!"

Yeah, no poo poo they would say that.

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.
I don't know anything about NFTs but it looks like a ponzi scheme to me.

Stoop Kid
Jan 17, 2007

Afraid to leave his stoop.
Is all of this interest in speculative bullshit (crypto and NFT’s) because people find “normal” investing boring? Or is it primarily driven by greed for outsized returns? What disgusts me is how they evangelize the scam and are bringing others down with them, just like a loving MLM.

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

NFTs are for money laundering, right? So how do they accomplish it?

necrotic
Aug 2, 2005
I owe my brother big time for this!
It's the greed.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

I just got off the phone with the market, and it wants me to tell you all to pump my cute animal themed shitcoins more too.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Prettz posted:

NFTs are for money laundering, right? So how do they accomplish it?

Bob has $10 million in drug money that he wants to make clean. He finds an accomplice named Alice. Alice takes furry porn from deviant art and pays the gas fees to make an NFT. Bob converts his $10 million to a crypto token. Bob bids $10 million for the NFT. Alice takes the $10 million in crypto and converts it to cash. She pays taxes on her income and takes her pre-determined cut for laundering the money. She then buys assets that do not depreciate, like real estate. These assets are purchased with an OR/AND titled deed with a corporation that was created in deleware by an agent working on behalf of another corporation controlled by Bob. Alice then quit claims the property to the corporation controlled by Bob. At Bob's leisure he can sell the property and put the money into the normal financial system.

Bob may be many steps removed from the corporation or person that goes onto the deeds with Alice. Since Alice has no clear connection to a criminal enterprise and paid taxes every step of the way, and she came across the money is a legitimate fashion (she sold her art), there is nothing to indicate that when the property is sold that the money came from a dirty or sanctioned source.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
Apparently there’s another cryptocurrency that uses hard disk space instead of gpu power, and, well
https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/1394402827477282818?s=21

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


aware of dog posted:

Apparently there’s another cryptocurrency that uses hard disk space instead of gpu power, and, well
https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/1394402827477282818?s=21

Technology was a mistake

no_tears
Dec 20, 2020

Bing Bong
I feel like right now it's hard to take a loss at throwing some spare cash on shitcoins. Especially ones that earn interest or have public figures talking about them for whatever reason. gotta ride those pump and dumps!

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snorch
Jul 27, 2009
What's crazy to me is, all it takes to fix it is for the world to collectively go "I'm not paying one red cent for no moon money" which used to be what we all did anyway.

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