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Ok Comboomer posted:no dude, if I’m gonna drop $10 grand on fun learning experiences in audio I have a laundry list of things I want to try first ...so why even post about 'low key' wanting to do it?
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# ? May 10, 2021 12:44 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:...so why even post about 'low key' wanting to do it? to recruit a crew of goons, duh
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# ? May 10, 2021 12:47 |
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I want to know what headphones this guy is plugging this cable into. https://twitter.com/gapingmaws/status/1391720346282127363 E: Never mind found the review it's an IEM cable. A $2,800 IEM cable. njsykora fucked around with this message at 12:51 on May 10, 2021 |
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njsykora posted:I want to know what headphones this guy is plugging this cable into. What is it with those clear stranded cables becoming super popular all of a sudden? The Hifiman headphones I just got came with one. A cheap one, but still, it would have probably been easier and at least as inexpensive to ship a regular cable.
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:20 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:to recruit a crew of goons, duh Recruit goons? Isn't there evidence of multiple attempts at goon group projects going horribly, horribly wrong?
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:27 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Recruit goons? Isn't there evidence of multiple attempts at goon group projects going horribly, horribly wrong? selection bias, there are tons of successful goon projects you just never hear or think about them because they aren’t funny or worth gawking at
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# ? May 10, 2021 17:38 |
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strtj posted:What is it with those clear stranded cables becoming super popular all of a sudden? The Hifiman headphones I just got came with one. A cheap one, but still, it would have probably been easier and at least as inexpensive to ship a regular cable. What's funny is the other market for clear audio devices is prison.
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# ? May 10, 2021 18:53 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:no dude, if I’m gonna drop $10 grand on fun learning experiences in audio I have a laundry list of things I want to try first Why would you want something that takes less space? Audio is one place where bigger = better always holds true.
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# ? May 10, 2021 19:16 |
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Ok Comboomer posted:selection bias, there are tons of successful goon projects Is there a thread of goon projects hidden somewhere on this site? I'd actually be interested! *successful ones or at least ones that don't end up with someone getting maimed or possibly murdered.
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# ? May 11, 2021 13:05 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Is there a thread of goon projects hidden somewhere on this site? I'd actually be interested! there’s one that’s been moving from subforum to subforum for the last like 5 months documenting goon covid projects all of them are really cool, many are serious creative or artisanal work not sure where it is right now, it moved out of the Dorkroom very recently
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# ? May 11, 2021 13:25 |
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Oh the BYOB spaceship thread? I mainly post in AI and it rolled up there after being in Dorkroom. I ran it back a bunch of pages to see what I'd missed and man, there was some beautiful artwork in there. A very cool thread that I'll have to dig more into. Currently in C-Spam: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3918699
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# ? May 11, 2021 13:44 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Oh the BYOB spaceship thread? I mainly post in AI and it rolled up there after being in Dorkroom. I ran it back a bunch of pages to see what I'd missed and man, there was some beautiful artwork in there. A very cool thread that I'll have to dig more into. oh rad “everybody post your podcast” I guess Edit- no this is a different thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3946255&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=12 Currently still in dorkroom trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 13:48 on May 11, 2021 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I certainly wouldn't play anything I didn't want ruined for me. "Mary Had a Little Lamb" on Edison cylinder.
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# ? May 16, 2021 23:26 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I certainly wouldn't play anything I didn't want ruined for me. Sinewave tests. Just like every other audiofool.
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# ? May 17, 2021 16:52 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Sinewave tests. Just like every other audiofool.
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# ? May 17, 2021 19:49 |
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I saw today that Apple is announcing "lossless" tiers that start at 16bit/44.1kHz, 24bit/48kHz and 24bit/192kHz. How influential is bit rate, because I remember reading that anything above 44.1kHz is effectively wasted on human ears and your speakers are unlikely to have a good response curve anywhere the extra resolution really matters.
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:18 |
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Yeah for human ears that last bump is worthless and the middle one at least iffy
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:22 |
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Well since everyone loves to follow Apple right over the cliff, Spotify announced a "lossless" tier and I think Amazon were ahead of both. Lets use 4x the bandwidth to cram everything through the digital drinking straw of Bluetooth audio to a lovely pair of airpods.
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:34 |
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Muh bandwidth!!!! Where will I find the 1's and 0's to stream a song? Apple's actually behind the curve on this. Spotify announced theirs in February, and Amazon's had it since 2019.
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:39 |
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I want a tier that sends 4k music videos that I can ignore
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:41 |
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Endless Mike posted:Apple's actually behind the curve on this. Spotify announced theirs in February, and Amazon's had it since 2019. Apple's version is notable in that they're not charging extra for lossless, breaking the trend of it being an extra-premium option Amazon has already responded by removing the lossless tax on their service, no response from Spotify yet AFAIK repiv fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 17, 2021 |
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48 is what most studios use for mastering so it's kind of a convenience thing that they don't need to transcode it. There's no harm to high res PCM over 16/44 other than file size. MQA, on the other hand, is stupid garbage and DSD I'm pretty sure only exists as a reason for people to yell at DAC manufacturers on the internet and get misty eyed about SACD.
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# ? May 17, 2021 21:53 |
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There’s been some rage over the fact that Airpods won’t support the full lossless, even though no bluetooth headphones can do lossless because bluetooth isn’t fast enough to stream the data it needs. The main thing Apple are pushing really is spacial audio, basically surround sound music because Dolby need to keep coming up with new things. Lossless seems to just be a side effect of them wanting that to show off their speakers. It’s gonna be nice to have lossless streaming without having to pay double the regular price for it, and it’ll almost certainly mean higher quality streaming stops being a more expensive tier over time. I did enjoy how Spotify said nothing about price when they announced their higher quality streaming tier. It almost certainly kneecaps Qobuz and Tidal too which is kinda hilarious. I’m expecting a bunch of audiophiles to do videos about how it’s not TRUE LOSSLESS to justify them still paying $30 for MQA albums.
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# ? May 17, 2021 22:11 |
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I thought Tidal was dead so I don't think a hair-splitting lossless tier is their problem.Endless Mike posted:Muh bandwidth!!!! Where will I find the 1's and 0's to stream a song? Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 22:25 on May 17, 2021 |
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Shumagorath posted:Well since everyone loves to follow Apple right over the cliff, Spotify announced a "lossless" tier and I think Amazon were ahead of both. Lets use 4x the bandwidth to cram everything through the digital drinking straw of Bluetooth audio to a lovely pair of airpods. jokes on you I stream to a computer and a receiver mostly
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Shumagorath posted:I saw today that Apple is announcing "lossless" tiers that start at 16bit/44.1kHz, 24bit/48kHz and 24bit/192kHz. How influential is bit rate, because I remember reading that anything above 44.1kHz is effectively wasted on human ears and your speakers are unlikely to have a good response curve anywhere the extra resolution really matters. Here is a good article from a programmer who writes audio codecs about how you don't need anything more than 16 bit/44.1kHz for playback. There's also similar videos from the same exact guy. To sum his conclusions up, not only does 24bit/192kHz offer no advantages over 16bit/44.1kHz, the additional sampling introduces a higher potential for distortion, making things worse.
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# ? May 18, 2021 03:05 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I certainly wouldn't play anything I didn't want ruined for me. I guess Tauno Palo, as it's the only monophonic record I have.
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# ? May 18, 2021 04:28 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B95AcbUCm1Y Super fun to demo on anything with bass.
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# ? May 18, 2021 04:55 |
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In Floyd Toole’s book, he argues that 20/48 can have some advantages over 16/44.1, but considers anything higher to be worthless. The Atmos tracks have my interest. Gonna have to see how that catalog plays out for classical music.
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# ? May 18, 2021 05:47 |
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Anything designed for video is going to be native 48khz so yeah, there’s no reason to worry about that. I’ve proven to myself confidently that on any setup I’ve owned I can’t tell the difference between lossless and lossy etc anyway even when trying, so I’ll continue to not give a gently caress when just listening to music.
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# ? May 18, 2021 06:12 |
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44.1KHz is really just a historical aberration, a lot of things would be simpler if everything had been standardized on 48KHz. Consumer digital audio is the only holdout, everything else uses multiples of 8KHz depending on what is needed. Even PC sound cards don't always do 44.1KHz cleanly, there was a big kerfuffle around some Sound Blaster cards (Live! or Audigy, I think?) that internally resampled everything very badly to 48KHz. As far as I know, the Android audio stack is also natively 48KHz. It's a bit of a mess, and you can easily end up in a situation on your PC where you're playing a selection of music with both 44.1 and 48KHz tracks, but the player or the audio stack doesn't switch sample rates correctly, and now your music is being put through the real-time resampler in your OS. You can end up sending a 48KHz track badly resampled to 44.1KHz to your DAC that can handle both sample rates just fine, if only the OS didn't mess it up. That's why some people do the whole ASIO driver and bit-perfect stuff and disable all OS resampling and so on. Will such a mess-up make an audible difference? Eh, probably not one you'd notice, unless you deliberately set a lower (faster, less CPU-intensive) resampling setting. But it's annoying that it's even an issue in the first place. That's actually one of the things I really admire about Opus, it has a super elegant design where it is basically always 48KHz. Lower sample rates (for voice and other non-music use cases) can be fractions of this, so Opus audio can be 8, 12, 16, 24 or 48KHz, but it always uses 48KHz timestamps and math and everything is a clean fraction of 48KHz. It greatly simplifies the compression because it only has to work on multiples of 8, instead of also having to handle 44.1KHz. In Opus that's just resampled to 48KHz before encoding, because the impact of resampling is completely inaudible, compared to even the mildest lossy codec anyway.
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# ? May 18, 2021 10:27 |
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So which audiophile grade pink quartz crystals do I use to weigh down my USB cables so the musical fidelity doesn't float off and escape?
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KozmoNaut posted:That's actually one of the things I really admire about Opus, it has a super elegant design where it is basically always 48KHz. Lower sample rates (for voice and other non-music use cases) can be fractions of this, so Opus audio can be 8, 12, 16, 24 or 48KHz, but it always uses 48KHz timestamps and math and everything is a clean fraction of 48KHz. It greatly simplifies the compression because it only has to work on multiples of 8, instead of also having to handle 44.1KHz. In Opus that's just resampled to 48KHz before encoding, because the impact of resampling is completely inaudible, compared to even the mildest lossy codec anyway.
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# ? May 18, 2021 11:21 |
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i bought a second dac and it's the wrong one, guess who's buying a third one
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# ? May 18, 2021 13:57 |
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Actually, you can very easily tell the difference, just ask the guy who swears his $5 AliExpress earbuds are actually the best things on the market.Laserface posted:Most people dont care as it sounds good enough, but if you have even mid-range gear you can clearly tell a difference between lossy and lossless.
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# ? May 18, 2021 13:59 |
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DancingShade posted:So which audiophile grade pink quartz crystals do I use to weigh down my USB cables so the musical fidelity doesn't float off and escape? Lmao you can't use pink quartz, that'll color the sound.
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# ? May 18, 2021 16:10 |
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Lmao you can't use pink quartz, that'll color the sound. But I want to warm out those cool highs.
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DancingShade posted:But I want to warm out those cool highs. "Ever since I switched to these new D'Agostino monoblocks the bass is fuller and treble is less harsh!" qirex fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 18, 2021 |
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DancingShade posted:But I want to warm out those cool highs. You're going to have to seal your cables in their own climate controlled environment.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:You're going to have to seal your cables in their own climate controlled environment. I dip my cable ends in icy hot.
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