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Vindolanda posted:No idea about the truth of it, but I recall reading somewhere that the Italian Navy had to issue orders against captains unnecessarily going down with the ship (presumably this was in WW2). ahh that's what was on Francesco Schettino's mind.
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Murgos posted:I expect that Sherman had PTSD, or something like it, and probably shouldn't have been in command of the Army after the war. You can't really take someone whose brilliance is total war and then be like, 'here handle this situation in a reasonable and measured way." Great Great Granddad fought for Sherman down south and spent some time in a field hospital near Atlanta. He didn't have anything amputated, but stories go that he had massive night terrors in the farmhouse after the war. He lived until he was in his late 80s, so my grampa grew up in the house and was able to re-tell some of the stories. I think his company was 1000 when it formed and ended the war with 300 something men.
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https://twitter.com/GarethJennings3/status/1393101451149316097 That's rough.
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May 15, 2021 15:02
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Turned Up Ridiculously Drunk Or poo poo himself in hia poopee suit
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May 15, 2021 15:12
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I remember reading a story about a backseater on a Prowler who had to take a poo poo over Baghdad. Makes me wonder if that was him. Also, "Jester" was a good Top Gun callsign since the dude had no chill.
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lol https://twitter.com/armystrang/status/1393571726588588033?s=21
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Clearly the building was a Hamas command post which justified that targeting decision /s
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The P in AP could have stood for Palestinian, frankly they couldn't risk not firing
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It seems like the Navy goes more for acronyms about dumb stuff you've done, while the Air Force likes to make puns based on peoples' names. Not a 100% rule but it seems to be the tendency. The absolute best callsign I ever heard about was for a guy who forgot to tuck himself back in after using the relief tube on a flight. After he lands and is walking around the flight deck with his junk hanging out, he is christened "DOOFUS": Dick Out Of Flightsuit, Unusually Small.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It seems like the Navy goes more for acronyms about dumb stuff you've done, while the Air Force likes to make puns based on peoples' names. Not a 100% rule but it seems to be the tendency. A friend was in NFO school at Pensacola and one of his classmates was christened FUNGUS: "gently caress you, new guy, you suck."
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Hmm... UTAH: UpTight rear end in a top hat Social Reject: This was a placeholder to see if he'd dig himself out of a hole he dug by allegedly poo poo-talking the unit before arriving...he did Wimpy: brought a multitude of burgers on an 8 hour flight, storing them in various pockets Zippy: would get Red Bull/Rip It straight from the IV if possible Egon: saw a ghost in his hotel room at Nellis 2-Ply: Had to take a poo poo while on a run through the middle of nowhere...finished his run sans socks Sox: Answered his front door wearing nothing but one sock Name puns are extremely common, too.
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Godholio posted:Hmm... I've stayed at hotel rooms near Nellis a few times to photograph Red Flag arrivals/departures from the racetrack, and I can confirm that this checks out.
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If I were a Navy pilot I would just do stupid stuff around badass animals like let myself get lightly mauled by a panther or maybe let a scorpion sting my dick
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Thomamelas posted:So there is a bit of milhistory to this. The period where you tend to see a lot of PTSD like symtoms in American Westerns in the period right after WWII up into the late 50's. And that tends to mirror the experiences of returning Vets. It becomes kind of a way of discussing a fairly taboo theme. And the link with the ACW and WWII makes it easy to set up. A fair number of directors were also using it to process their own issues. Prior to the war, George Stevens is a proto-Mel Brooks. After the war his filmography is Shane, Giant, The Diary of Anne Frank among others. So I'd be careful at using at part of the genre to try to figure out what's actually happening in the US in the period. Toward the Unknown (which features flight testing footage of the XB-51) touches on PTSD and the lingering effects of torture and imprisonment.
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zoux posted:If I were a Navy pilot I would just do stupid stuff around badass animals like let myself get lightly mauled by a panther or maybe let a scorpion sting my dick Let's see, call signs would be 'Kitten' and 'Puffy'. You can't game a military nickname. It doesn't matter what you did, military nicknames are always at least moderately insulting.
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So the thing the CF general who was handling the covid vaccine distribution got pulled for was he exposed himself while a student at military college in freakin 1989 and it has come back at him now, wild.
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May 17, 2021 18:16
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There, see? Problem solved. Nothing else to see here.
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zoux posted:If I were a Navy pilot I would just do stupid stuff around badass animals like let myself get lightly mauled by a panther or maybe let a scorpion sting my dick I knew a guy who was an F-14 RIO that got the nickname "Sharky" after he and his pilot had to bail out from an engine flameout on takeoff (good ol' TF30s), and the first thing he did was grab and start using the shark repellent.
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Shark repellant is a very cold war story. https://youtu.be/4u54c7cRAog
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May 18, 2021 03:33
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Can't blame that guy, you don't take any risks with loving sharks
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aphid_licker posted:Can't blame that guy, you don't take any risks with loving sharks just use a condom and have an exit plan
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aphid_licker posted:Can't blame that guy, you don't take any risks with loving sharks He probably saw Jaws a few times… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9S41Kplsbs
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The Swedish air force's most prominent Gripen display pilot has the call sign "Starbutt", but I don't know if the why is public information...
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So here's a cold war what-if for you: https://twitter.com/Sharon_Kuruvila/status/1394501507177984000
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Nebakenezzer posted:So here's a cold war what-if for you: This is a good book, apropos of nothing in particular: https://www.amazon.com/Yiddish-Policemens-Union-Novel-P-S/dp/0007149832 Also, have the forums stopped in-lining twitter links for everyone else, or is it just some weird setting on my end?
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Phanatic posted:This is a good book, apropos of nothing in particular: I read it a few years ago, and thought it was excellent.
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What’s the discount rate when you do this before FMS delivery, I wonder? https://twitter.com/laurieskrivan/status/1394664519935397890?s=21
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Nebakenezzer posted:So here's a cold war what-if for you: I feel like there's a good alt-hist book to be written for Uncle Ho's OSS contacts talking Truman into telling the French to gently caress off after 1945 when they wanted their colonies back and <waves hands> that happening somehow.
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Madurai posted:I feel like there's a good alt-hist book to be written for Uncle Ho's OSS contacts talking Truman into telling the French to gently caress off after 1945 when they wanted their colonies back and <waves hands> that happening somehow. Same thing happened in China, iirc George C. Marshall visited Yannan and in 47-48 didn't believe that Chiang was vital to US foreign interests; and felt that the Chinese communists could be convinced to remain friendly with the United States; there's loads of missed opportunities by the US to have drove a wedge between the USSR and other communist movements early on if they'd been more on the ball. It probably would have saved millions of lives.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Same thing happened in China, iirc George C. Marshall visited Yannan and in 47-48 didn't believe that Chiang was vital to US foreign interests; and felt that the Chinese communists could be convinced to remain friendly with the United States; there's loads of missed opportunities by the US to have drove a wedge between the USSR and other communist movements early on if they'd been more on the ball. It probably would have saved millions of lives. The other thing that would have saved millions of lives is if the US didn’t go rabidly anti-communist.
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Trying to engineer your pilot nickname reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George tries to get the nickname "T-Bone" and winds up with "Koko the Gorilla."
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Electric Wrigglies posted:The other thing that would have saved millions of lives is if the US didn’t go rabidly anti-communist. 
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Phanatic posted:
They are either implying that's a fighter jet or a small aircraft, and either way it's hilarious.
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By the way, I didn't think I'd wake up today and discover an entire new way that Senator Joe McCarthy sucked but here we are. Today I found out that in 1949 he was waging what was described as a "one man crusade" on behalf of, get this, the Germans convicted as war criminals for the Malmedy massacre. Yes, the Malmedy massacre where American POWs were machinegunned and then survivors finished off with pistol shots to the head. Why? Something about him thinking that their confessions were coerced was the official reason, but I kinda suspect it was tied up with him hating communists given his later behavior. That's just conjecture on my part, though.
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zoux posted:The idea of field amputations has hosed me up since I saw Dances with Wolves and learned such things happened. Before anesthetics were a thing, the trick was to be quick about it. Reportedly, Larrey performed 200 amputations within 24 hours during the battle of Berezina. He also performed a pre-anaesthetic mastectomy on Frances Burney, who wrote a letter about the experience. I mounted, therefore, unbidden, the Bed stead – & M. Dubois placed me upon the Mattress, & spread a cambric handkerchief upon my face. It was transparent, however, & I saw, through it, that the Bed stead was instantly surrounded by the 7 men & my nurse. I refused to be held; but when, Bright through the cambric, I saw the glitter of polished Steel – I closed my Eyes. I would not trust to convulsive fear the sight of the terrible incision. Yet – when the dreadful steel was plunged into the breast – cutting through veins – arteries – flesh – nerves – I needed no injunctions not to restrain my cries. I began a scream that lasted unintermittingly during the whole time of the incision – & I almost marvel that it rings not in my Ears still? so excruciating was the agony. When the wound was made, & the instrument was withdrawn, the pain seemed undiminished, for the air that suddenly rushed into those delicate parts felt like a mass of minute but sharp & forked poniards, that were tearing the edges of the wound. I concluded the operation was over – Oh no! presently the terrible cutting was renewed – & worse than ever, to separate the bottom, the foundation of this dreadful gland from the parts to which it adhered – Again all description would be baffled – yet again all was not over, – Dr. Larry rested but his own hand, & – Oh heaven! – I then felt the knife (rack)ling against the breast bone – scraping it!
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Phanatic posted:
I think all they did was type airspace violated into google images and grab the first result
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Hannibal Rex posted:I mounted, therefore, unbidden, the Bed stead – & M. Dubois placed me upon the Mattress, & spread a cambric handkerchief upon my face. It was transparent, however, & I saw, through it, that the Bed stead was instantly surrounded by the 7 men & my nurse. I refused to be held; but when, Bright through the cambric, I saw the glitter of polished Steel – I closed my Eyes. I would not trust to convulsive fear the sight of the terrible incision. Yet – when the dreadful steel was plunged into the breast – cutting through veins – arteries – flesh – nerves – I needed no injunctions not to restrain my cries. I began a scream that lasted unintermittingly during the whole time of the incision – & I almost marvel that it rings not in my Ears still? so excruciating was the agony. When the wound was made, & the instrument was withdrawn, the pain seemed undiminished, for the air that suddenly rushed into those delicate parts felt like a mass of minute but sharp & forked poniards, that were tearing the edges of the wound. I concluded the operation was over – Oh no! presently the terrible cutting was renewed – & worse than ever, to separate the bottom, the foundation of this dreadful gland from the parts to which it adhered – Again all description would be baffled – yet again all was not over, – Dr. Larry rested but his own hand, & – Oh heaven! – I then felt the knife (rack)ling against the breast bone – scraping it!  loving hellfire.
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