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life_source posted:Luckily I picked an exo face without a nose. Checkmate Clovis! but how do they smell?
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I was going to make a joke about some low level ClovisBray employee designing and implementing simulated olfactory recognition and Clovis himself firing them in an angry rage before taking full credit for it when I realized Clovis is literally just Elon Musk.
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May 18, 2021 17:54
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:but how do they smell? Like stale ramen and jet fuel.
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May 18, 2021 18:51
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Kith posted:not that different from being human, so i don't see a downside I think Cayde confirmed that? I know when you go searching for his caches after he dies you find one which addresses the Deep Stone Crypt and he talks about some walk and how one day he was going to expose them or something? I wish we'd found out more about his relationship with the Drifter. The wiping process sounded really grim if I remember right however, I think it talked about how mentally Exos are forced to kill their friends and loved ones as part of the process? Not in reality but in their minds via some kind of simulation. We know that becoming a guardian wipes your past self (e.g. Crow) but I wonder how that works for Exos if Cayde's cache about that walk are true. Bungie did present everything as Cayde not really being 100% sure if the memories he hid away were real or not, though.
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May 18, 2021 19:16
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SUNKOS posted:The wiping process sounded really grim if I remember right however, I think it talked about how mentally Exos are forced to kill their friends and loved ones as part of the process? Not in reality but in their minds via some kind of simulation. Exo farting is canon at least.
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Exo contain the ability to be a different person post reset. Banshee-44. A relentless Warlord Guardian reset into a lone raider, with light intact. Unnamed in the lore linked above. It can happen to Exo of any type it seems. Guardians also have this ability, it is something to do with the rules introduced by the Gardener and Winnower. This same process occurred in Aurash, and the Darkness had him killed for it. quote:As Auryx and his sisters forced an ultimatum on the remaining proto-Hive to accept the worms or perish, Auryx turned his attention to Fundament's moons, and the Ammonites there who had allied with the Traveler and gave asylum to Taox. Initially he was willing to negotiate with the Ammonites, but his sister Savathûn, under pressure from the Worms, killed Auryx as punishment. Rather than dying, Auryx's soul instead passed to his Ascendant realm, or throne world, where his soul resided until he returned to the mortal realm. Rebuked, Auryx purged what sympathy and goodwill he had left, becoming a merciless tyrant. He and his sisters warred with and killed one another on a regular basis after the defeat of the Ammonites, as part of their worship of the Sword-Logic and their attempt to become the sharpest blades in the universe, heading to their Ascendant realms when defeated. Their war of revenge against Taox had transformed into a campaign of genocide, when they slew the Ammonites and other interstellar civilizations to feed their worms. The lords of the Hive also established their Ascendant realms, with Auryx naming his the High War.[8] Bideo James fucked around with this message at 19:43 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 19:40
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Kind of a bummer that there's no incentive to do Contest VoG other than hope for world's first? No unique emblem, guaranteed exotic, etc Our clan has heaps of people wanting to run sunday and like 4 dudes who want to run it at -30 LL or whatever
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May 18, 2021 20:56
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Kind of a bummer that there's no incentive to do Contest VoG other than hope for world's first? No unique emblem, guaranteed exotic, etc um you will get a permission slip to buy a shader from eververse
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May 18, 2021 21:21
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PERMACAV 50 posted:um you will get a permission slip to buy a shader from eververse There's plenty of incentive to do regular VoG, including said coupon!!! They just sorta forgot to have incentive for a first 24 hour completion
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May 18, 2021 21:24
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Walking around the refuge area, and I just know something awful is going to go down here. It is just too convenient that things seem to be going well. So that got me thinking, if the guardians need to protect the Eliksni from other guardians (I.E. FWC) how would that works? We can't really kill each other...
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May 18, 2021 21:50
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Mesadoram posted:Walking around the refuge area, and I just know something awful is going to go down here. It is just too convenient that things seem to be going well. lore's full of guardians killing each other('s ghost) or kill guardian, put ghost in small box when they come out to rez
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May 18, 2021 21:54
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Mesadoram posted:Walking around the refuge area, and I just know something awful is going to go down here. It is just too convenient that things seem to be going well. "Remember.... No Fallen"
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May 18, 2021 22:02
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Yeah, the lore is full of weak whining about how you shouldn't target ghosts or final death other guardians no matter how awful they are. Everything else is free game, kill to your hearts content!
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Sekenr posted:They'll mindwipe her into Lakshme 3. Someone has to sit there being useless This would be an insane plot point given who Lakshmi-2 is; she's been around forever, seen it all, and I think the least wiped of all exos iirc. SUNKOS posted:I think Cayde confirmed that? I know when you go searching for his caches after he dies you find one which addresses the Deep Stone Crypt and he talks about some walk and how one day he was going to expose them or something? I wish we'd found out more about his relationship with the Drifter. iirc the golden wheat fields vs. killing everyone you know is a binary sequence of dreams that all exos have: absolute lore posted:This is the tower where we were born. Not the Tower. Just a tower in a dream. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 22:13
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Waffle House posted:This would be an insane plot point given who Lakshmi-2 is; she's been around forever, seen it all, and I think the least wiped of all exos iirc. There is also Ada, but she's a special case.
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Waffle House posted:This would be an insane plot point given who Lakshmi-2 is; I think the least wiped of all exos iirc. Perhaps she's overdue.
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Mazerunner posted:lore's full of guardians killing each other('s ghost) life_source posted:Yeah, the lore is full of weak whining about how you shouldn't target ghosts or final death other guardians no matter how awful they are. Interesting, my lore on Destiny is a little rocky but I do remember that you need a special bullet to kill a ghost or something? GoGoGadgetChris posted:"Remember.... No Fallen" I don't know what that means/is in reference to  .
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No, Risen killed each other in droves in the old days that's what the Iron Lords did all the time to Warlords.
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SkyeAuroline posted:There is also Ada, but she's a special case. tbf she's been hiding since before tower time was even recorded Coldforge posted:Perhaps she's overdue. Political as gently caress in three words you are an absolute madman
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Mesadoram posted:I don't know what that means/is in reference to Modern Warfare 2's airport level.
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Eej posted:No, Risen killed each other in droves in the old days that's what the Iron Lords did all the time to Warlords. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/loose-ends-pt-ii#lord-felwinter Not according to this, since why wouldn't Efrideet just murk these 3 dangerous assholes and there are at least two other lore bits that I can't find at the moment that agree with me. One is about Felwinter specifically killing a Warlord, key phrase I remember is about two blasts from his shotgun, and another is about how one of the Iron Lords hated Felwinters guts because they found out about other Final Death's Felwinter delivered. Basically there aren't enough truly dead guardians around and Ghosts being "special" and requiring anything more than enough regular firepower to destroy is dumb.
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Azubah posted:Modern Warfare 2's airport level. I figured it, thank you lol. I was looking up Destiny 2 lore trying to find that quote.
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life_source posted:https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/loose-ends-pt-ii#lord-felwinter Only last season we had that Psion attempt on Zavala's life and instead of shooting his ghost it fired a smaller version of what caged the Traveler to make him vulnerable, with Caitl stepping in and stopping the other Psion that went to kill him without the protection of the light. If Ghosts could be taken out by normal bullets the Psion would have just fired an actual bullet at Zavala's ghost and that would have been that. The bullet that took out Cayde's ghost was supposedly very special and rare as well, which is why he was so arrogant about pulling his ghost out to heal when completely surrounded. I'm not deep on lore but isn't there something about Thorn and it having killed a lot of guardians? I do think Ghosts needing special bullets to be destroyed is a little silly but I can't really keep up with the lore since things seem kinda off sometimes. There was that post mentioning Hive worms for example but we killed one in the Warmind DLC without it being a very big deal, it wasn't even a raid boss. To think all the Hive, as powerful as they are, are essentially enslaved by these things is odd, but I probably missed a bunch of lore things related to this and might be wrong. I'm also really far behind on things but I know Osiris lost his light and Sagira is gone. Do they explain what happened in the game or is it a mystery?
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SUNKOS posted:I'm also really far behind on things but I know Osiris lost his light and Sagira is gone. Do they explain what happened in the game or is it a mystery? Hive "magic" bullshit or whatever. The hand-waving is incredible. Just got the Null Composure and I gotta say, I miss how hard the Loaded Question hit. Also, the AoE seems super small. Guess I am going back to using Salvager's Salo again . Is light.gg a train wreck for anyone else right now? Edit: Never mind, seems like the site is working again. Double Edit: Wait, the Plug One also gets Reservoir Burst? Sooooo basically that becomes the loaded question... Triple Edit: Ahh gently caress nuggets, it was the nightfall weapon last week. Gotta wait 2 more weeks before I can farm it again
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Every new weapon is dope. Don't sleep on the sidearm.
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SUNKOS posted:Only last season we had that Psion attempt on Zavala's life and instead of shooting his ghost it fired a smaller version of what caged the Traveler to make him vulnerable, with Caitl stepping in and stopping the other Psion that went to kill him without the protection of the light. If Ghosts could be taken out by normal bullets the Psion would have just fired an actual bullet at Zavala's ghost and that would have been that. Ghosts die all the time though. Twilight Gap had a ton of final deaths that's why it was so important and their opponents were Fallen. Also Hive worms are part of a big soul taking ponzi scheme. Feed the worm with power from Sword Logic and it makes you more powerful and in turn requires more power to make you stronger and if you fail to keep feeding into the loop it consumes you. Or just have your underlings tithe their power to you. e: Cabal mention taking out Guardians via complete artillery saturation too Eej fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 19, 2021 |
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Mesadoram posted:Hive "magic" bullshit or whatever. The hand-waving is incredible. literally built into the way their magic works. handwaves away with runes pulling power from another place
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Bideo James posted:literally built into the way their magic works. handwaves away with runes pulling power from another place I am just bitter they killed off Sagira 
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I feel like it kinda undercuts the potential danger and menace of a Guardian gone rogue if all it takes it shooting their ghost once or twice. The message in the Eliksni camp talking about how they had a symbol to "ward" off guardians, and why they once feared them because there's been guardians who didn't stop at just the soldiers. To someone on the receiving end, a guardian is basically a horror movie/game creature. You can't loving kill them, so if they want you dead, what the hell do you do? I think back to the cutscene with all the Eliskni huddled in the cave, knowing a guardian is near. Also, guardians/ghosts being hard to kill makes it a bigger deal when someone does die.
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Eej posted:Ghosts die all the time though. Twilight Gap had a ton of final deaths that's why it was so important and their opponents were Fallen. I never looked into the lore of that and assumed most deaths were civilian rather than guardians but if guardians were getting slaughtered in great numbers by Fallen then I don't think Bungie really thought out the lore of the game very well. I always figured that guardians were practically unstoppable killing machines (you can still fight them by putting them down over and over again, but it's attrition) and that in the world of Destiny the threat was that there wasn't really enough guardians to handle all the danger and so they had to be careful with where resources and priorities were allocated (e.g. Zavala constantly wanting to protect the people of the city rather than go off chasing weird stuff) since what we see is a huge city full of civilians but a small tower overlooking it with not many guardians occupying it. That and D1 started with the player ghost saying they spent a stupidly long time trying to find the player. It always seemed that a guardian turning up somewhere was a big deal with how the game set things up and that the death of one was a big blow to humanity since there weren't a large number of them. Humanity being pushed all the way back to Earth and one city seemed to emphasize this as well, that there simply wasn't enough to go around and so planets were lost one after another, with even Earth now being infested with Fallen, Cabal, Hive and Taken.
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SUNKOS posted:I'm also really far behind on things but I know Osiris lost his light and Sagira is gone. Do they explain what happened in the game or is it a mystery? The story on Sagira is just short stories on bungie.net, by the time you start the season 12 questline she’s already gone. Part 1- https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/49746 Part 2- https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/49747
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Sagira might not actually be dead, given the growing evidence for the theory that Savathun is disguised as Osiris or is controlling him.
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SUNKOS posted:I never looked into the lore of that and assumed most deaths were civilian rather than guardians but if guardians were getting slaughtered in great numbers by Fallen then I don't think Bungie really thought out the lore of the game very well. Eramis is mentioned to have killed hundreds of Guardians at Twilight Gap which was a battle that involved basically every Fallen House aside from Wolves (who got caught up in the Reef due to Awoken shenanigans). The near disaster is what spurred Shaxx to create the Crucible to train Guardians how to fight. The history of Guardians getting owned in large battles is basically them being overconfident in their immortality. At Twilight Gap they never had to really fight as an organized force, at the Great Disaster they didn't expect that Hive Knight swords could eat their Light and died in the hundreds and Cayde died because he didn't expect anyone to be able to snipe an aware ghost in combat. A skilled and prepared Lightbearer is a force of nature but a lot of Guardians are just regular dudes who can be taken unaware.
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I've always figured dying in a darkness zone 'canonically' resulted in your ghost getting smashed. You don't rez and there's nothing to defend the ghosts from the enemies all around.
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Roctavian posted:Sagira might not actually be dead, given the growing evidence for the theory that Savathun is disguised as Osiris or is controlling him. She was also Eris Morn for a little while last year, I'm betting that whatever she ends up being won't be whatever Red Herring has been set up
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Petra caused the deaths of a guardian fireteam by calling in a danger close artillery strike that caught their ghosts too and Cabal battle doctrine noted that artillery bombardments can destroy ghosts, except that ghosts remain hidden and guardians are a scattered guerilla force so bombardment isn't very effective e; so a pitched battle like TG means that ghosts/guardians are vulnerable to massed fire
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RBX posted:Every new weapon is dope. Don't sleep on the sidearm. It'll leave a mark on your face 
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