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WeaponX posted:28 Days doesn’t need to be a zombie movie and it’s ok not to call it that but it has so many elements of the zombie movie genre that getting weird about it being called a zombie movie doesn’t make sense to me. Oh yea this is definitely a fun topic for the horror thread but I wouldn't be making an issue of it at parties or whatever, it's just something to pick apart and debate amongst other horror nerds.
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Basebf555 posted:Oh yea this is definitely a fun topic for the horror thread but I wouldn't be making an issue of it at parties or whatever, it's just something to pick apart and debate amongst other horror nerds. I forever ruined it for myself because I watched it right after seeing Dawn of the Dead (remake and original) for the first time so I always associate it with “zombies”. I guess more accurate would be a general “apocalyptic scenario” umbrella
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Its just always annoyed me when 28 days and 28 weeks come out on best of Zombie lists because the movie clearly explains what is happening
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Hollismason posted:Its just always annoyed me when 28 days and 28 weeks come out on best of Zombie lists because the movie clearly explains what is happening I think it's a situation where you have to take into account the context. 28 Days Later came out during a period of time where really the only relevant zombie media for years had been the Resident Evil games. So it was an attempt to bring zombies back but there was a sense that they had to be different in some way to make modern audiences interested. So it was very much a movie that was made, or at the very least marketed, with the idea of doing a zombie film for the 21st century. It wasn't just like, "oh we made this movie about a virus but it seems to be somewhat similar to a zombie movie doesn't it?", it was very calculated.
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I also think the fast zombies in the DotD remake (which were very reminiscent of the ones in 28DL) just a couple years later bridged the gap in people's minds for 28DL being a zombie movie.
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28 Days Later is absolutely a zombie movie in every way that matters
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Basebf555 posted:I think it's a situation where you have to take into account the context. 28 Days Later came out during a period of time where really the only relevant zombie media for years had been the Resident Evil games. So it was an attempt to bring zombies back but there was a sense that they had to be different in some way to make modern audiences interested. So it was very much a movie that was made, or at the very least marketed, with the idea of doing a zombie film for the 21st century. It wasn't just like, "oh we made this movie about a virus but it seems to be somewhat similar to a zombie movie doesn't it?", it was very calculated. Also retrospectively it helped kick off the zombie craze. Resident Evil the movie was the same year, Dawn remake and Shaun of the Dead were two years after. Walking Dead comics started being published the year after and so on
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:28 Days Later is absolutely a zombie movie in every way that matters
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I may be pedantic about using the word "schlock", but this is exactly how I feel:Uncle Boogeyman posted:28 Days Later is absolutely a zombie movie in every way that matters If you described the movie to someone who's never seen/heard of it, two sentences in they're saying 'Oh, it's a zombie movie?" It's a zombie movie. But like every other zombie movie, the movie makes it's own rules for what constitutes as a zombie. It becomes Day of the Dead in the 3rd act, even.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:28 Days Later is absolutely a zombie movie in every way that matters 
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Blade isn't a vampire movie. If they were real vampires he would've just thrown nets on the ground so they'd have to stop and untangle them, then killed them with a hawthorn stake. The only hard part is burying them at a crossroads with their head between their legs.
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May 19, 2021 21:28
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A zombie is a person that goes rawr and bites you. This is the rules
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It's not like zombies being created by a virus is even a new idea. It's speculated to be the source of the zombie outbreak in Zombie Flesh Eaters and is the main driving plot point of the Resident Evil games. It's absolutely a zombie movie and Danny Boyle was just being a snob, something they rightly made fun of multiple times in Shaun of the Dead.
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Zombies are the undead , not living creatures.
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Hollismason posted:Zombies are the undead , not living creatures. By this logic, Train To Busan isn't a zombie movie. They are the living dead. But sometimes they're alive and cursed to be in a stasis of in-between life and death. And sometimes they get a virus that makes them braindead. The one movie that posits that the monsters are humans that have been infected with a disease that makes them aggressive flesh eaters that I could see argued against being a "zombie" movie is REC. And even the first one is pretty much a zombie movie, it's the sequels that retcon it a bit (apparently. I haven't seen them.) Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 21:59 on May 19, 2021 |
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"Oh my God, what is happening!" "A zombie apocalypse! Run!" "Wait... zombies? Aren't they alive?" "I don't know... I guess? You wanna check their pulse?" "So if they're alive they're not zombies." "Seriously?" "Thy have to be undead to be zombies." "Do they act like zombies?" "Maybe." "Do they want to eat us like zombies?" "I guess." "Does the virus spread and turn us into them like zombies?" "I suppose." "Are we handling this exactly like you would a zombie apocalypse?" "Sure." "So why are we having this conversation?" "Because they're not zombies." "Can't you just... ahhhhhhh!" Not Zombie: "RAWR!"
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May 19, 2021 21:57
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Also Return of the Living Dead has running Zombies like 20 years before any of the later 2000 "fast zombies".
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Return of the Living Dead was actually a romantic comedy.
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CelticPredator posted:It’s one of the best horror movies this decade imo Is it not just the best?
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But is 28 Days Later Horror, or a Thriller?
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Is wild zero a zombie movie?
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Spazzle posted:Is wild zero a zombie movie? Also romantic comedy
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Is The Girl With All the Gifts a zombie movie then? Because even though the cordyceps infected are clinicially "dead" they're technically more like a symbiotic organism that's part human, part mushroom and not a zombie in the classic sense. Plus some of them can think and act like regular humans.
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I think an argument can be made that Assault on Precinct 13 is a zombie movie.
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Stink Billyums posted:Also romantic comedy Well, yes.
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28 Days and Weeks Later are ‘Crazies’ movies, but The Crazies is also clearly a zombie movie.
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A zombie is any mindless (or single minded) creature that functions only as part of a larger group not as an individual.
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By contrast like, I Walked With a Zombie hasn’t really got anything in common with “zombie movies”. Who cares what monster manual entry best represents the monster
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If they're not the dead come back to life or reanimated corpses then they are not zombies. I will not be taking further questions.
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Labels are dumb
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zombies? Zombies!  Somewhat risque. May lead to termination if you are caught browsing from your job as a chaperon in a nunnery.
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Dragonshirt posted:It's not really horror in any sense but I just rewatched Robot Jox and it loving whips rear end. I hadn't seen it since I was a kid in a video store, just found out it's a Stuart Gordon masterpiece. Hell yeah! It's a great movie. Great miniatures, too 
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Funny Games is still a gut punch. Do I mess around with the remake? I know it’s haneke still.
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dorium posted:Funny Games is still a gut punch. Do I mess around with the remake? I know it’s haneke still. I saw the remake in the theater after being a big fan of the original. It's a shot for shot remake. I'd say it's worth watching to see the different actors in the roles. I still prefer the original but it's an interesting curiosity.
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I liked the new Blair Witch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
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dorium posted:Funny Games is still a gut punch. Do I mess around with the remake? I know it’s haneke still. Its literally the same movie. Like not figuratively its almost shot for shot the same movie. The only difference is it being in English.
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watch another Haneke, like Cache or The White Ribbon. both great
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ive never seen either funny games which one do i watch
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Kvlt! posted:ive never seen either funny games which one do i watch If you're fine with subtitles watch the original. If you don't like subtitles watch the remake
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