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I've watched some of Brooklyn 99 and it strikes me as a show that could have been about a fire department instead for how little it's about policing most of the time
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The United States posted:If we've learned anything in the past few years is that a sizable amount of Americans think TV shows are real, a large enough amount to put dictators into power and kill hundreds of thousands of fellow Americans and not even think anything is wrong with that. Ban anyone older than 55 from owning or watching TV. RBA Starblade posted:I've watched some of Brooklyn 99 and it strikes me as a show that could have been about a fire department instead for how little it's about policing most of the time Too many people have allowed simple heuristic slogans (ALL cops are bastards NO EXCEPTIONS) to replace their own judgement and sense.
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May 20, 2021 16:22
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zoux posted:I guess that's a problem if you think that TV programs are real. But imagine you're a dumb child who grows up watching tv shows where cops are always shown to be morally just figures who stand up for what's right and occasionally they have to do some dirty stuff but they're still actually good people when it comes down to it and now you're a dumb adult who now thinks that cops in real life are like the ones you see in Tv and you have the modern police state the us currently exists as.
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May 20, 2021 16:23
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:But imagine you're a dumb child who grows up watching tv shows where cops are always shown to be morally just figures who stand up for what's right and occasionally they have to do some dirty stuff but they're still actually good people when it comes down to it and now you're a dumb adult who now thinks that cops in real life are like the ones you see in Tv and you have the modern police state the us currently exists as. That's a massively reductive view of what causes the problems related to the American criminal justice system and also I don't have to imagine being a dumb adult, pal!
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May 20, 2021 16:24
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Yes i know my doctoral thesis I submitted to the TVIV is flawed but it's a starting point.
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May 20, 2021 16:28
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Escobarbarian posted:I’ve done that a few times. Just watch the season premiere and be like “nah I don’t want any more of this”. It’s how I stopped watching Modern Family and This Is Us - no big loss, I’m sure you’ll agree. So, again, that seems like a more apathetic choice. Show's on break, watch the premier, "naw I didn't miss this" and stop. But saying "This episode that shows that the nihilist rear end in a top hat main character is in fact yes, a nihilist rear end in a top hat character" or "some random cameo of an IRL rear end in a top hat for 2 minutes of screentime" as some sort of last straw breaking point is just strange. Neither one of those episodes has DNA that's unique from the first season. They don't change the tone or character trajectory in any fundamental way so it really just feels like self justification for dropping a show that you had wish you never picked up from the start. There are really only two shows that I've dropped abruptly. The Walking Dead when I felt sick to my stomach after the Season 7 premier and Grimm when I didn't like the direction they were going for Juliette and Adalind and honestly I'm probably still going to round back at some point and finish them out. I didn't really even intend to drop TWD completely from the onset, I just wanted more time before the next episode and it turned into apathy. It just feels like the 3rd season is when the brain worms start whispering "Publicly denounce the show as jumping the shark. Throw up your hands and say they crossed a point of no return and quality has dipped precipitously. You and I know that you never really liked it, but we must justify our decision!"
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May 20, 2021 16:30
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I'm intrigued by your theory....
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I get the point about children being fed the wrong messages when they are young but that doesn't just apply to the morality of cop shows or even TV in a broader sense. I don't care who you are, you're indoctrinated as a child with some kind of wrong message. Everyone is. The point is that you grow up learn it's either wrong or a fantasy. I can easily enjoy cop shows because I know they're not real and I don't need them to be real. Sure it's great that some do reflect reality but I'm a grown person that enjoys entertainment as just that sometimes. I can enjoy Brooklyn Nine-Nine just as much as I can enjoy watching something like Friday The 13th. Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers.
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May 20, 2021 16:38
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X-O posted:I get the point about children being fed the wrong messages when they are young but that doesn't just apply to the morality of cop shows or even TV in a broader sense. I don't care who you are, you're indoctrinated as a child with some kind of wrong message. Everyone is. The point is that you grow up learn it's either wrong or a fantasy. I can easily enjoy cop shows because I know they're not real and I don't need them to be real. Sure it's great that some do reflect reality but I'm a grown person that enjoys entertainment as just that sometimes. I can enjoy Brooklyn Nine-Nine just as much as I can enjoy watching something like Friday The 13th. Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers. Sounds like copaganda to me.
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May 20, 2021 16:43
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Slamhound posted:Sounds like copaganda to me. Your gimmick is stale.
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X-O posted:Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers. I am
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May 20, 2021 16:46
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Yeah that's a campaign I can get behind.
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X-O posted:Your gimmick is stale. Is it? Is it really?
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Yeah, I'm gonna copaganda... cop a ganda at them gams, whoa nelly!!
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Open Source Idiom posted:This Adventure Time episode is loving sick.
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May 20, 2021 17:14
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zoux posted:Too many people have allowed simple heuristic slogans (ALL cops are bastards NO EXCEPTIONS) to replace their own judgement and sense. ugh. bull3964 posted:But saying "This episode that shows that the nihilist rear end in a top hat main character is in fact yes, a nihilist rear end in a top hat character" or "some random cameo of an IRL rear end in a top hat for 2 minutes of screentime" as some sort of last straw breaking point is just strange. Neither one of those episodes has DNA that's unique from the first season. They don't change the tone or character trajectory in any fundamental way so it really just feels like self justification for dropping a show that you had wish you never picked up from the start. Ok sorry, I think I’ve missed something here. What are we talking about specifically?
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A few of the Ted Lasso actors stay in character for a random interview from an oblivious reporter outside an FA Cup game https://www.themarysue.com/ted-lasso-interview-in-character/
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May 20, 2021 17:26
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May 20, 2021 17:27
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Looten Plunder posted:A few of the Ted Lasso actors stay in character for a random interview from an oblivious reporter outside an FA Cup game Lmfao https://twitter.com/torilasso/status/1394360874702458883?s=19
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May 20, 2021 17:29
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X-O posted:I get the point about children being fed the wrong messages when they are young but that doesn't just apply to the morality of cop shows or even TV in a broader sense. I don't care who you are, you're indoctrinated as a child with some kind of wrong message. Everyone is. The point is that you grow up learn it's either wrong or a fantasy. I can easily enjoy cop shows because I know they're not real and I don't need them to be real. Sure it's great that some do reflect reality but I'm a grown person that enjoys entertainment as just that sometimes. I can enjoy Brooklyn Nine-Nine just as much as I can enjoy watching something like Friday The 13th. Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers. The same goes for your favorite cop show.
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May 20, 2021 17:34
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bull3964 posted:That specifically. Which I know isn't you specifically, it's just you that replied to me. Ok yeah I had missed this. At least with the Vindicators example, it sounds like that poster was already considering dropping it and that was the last straw. I would never have dropped the show for the Musk appearance but it definitely made me think differently about Roiland.
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zoux posted:I guess that's a problem if you think that TV programs are real. quote:"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.
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Is there any way to stream Supernatural with the original music or is it piracy/DVD only still?
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The later, but I'm pretty sure only the first season is affected.
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Rhyno posted:Yeah that's a campaign I can get behind. And yet, everyone hated Roy Burns.
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Davros1 posted:And yet, everyone hated Roy Burns. Jason Voorhies just needs better press.
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Escobarbarian posted:Man, Hacks is really good. 
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GreenNight posted:I like The Rookie. So do I, it's a nice show.
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Simone Magus posted:I have a soft spot for Rescue Me One of the best shows ever that disappeared up it's own rear end by the final season.
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Amazon's Wheel of Time has been renewed for a second season. (Still no idea when s1 will actual air though.)
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X-O posted:I get the point about children being fed the wrong messages when they are young but that doesn't just apply to the morality of cop shows or even TV in a broader sense. I don't care who you are, you're indoctrinated as a child with some kind of wrong message. Everyone is. The point is that you grow up learn it's either wrong or a fantasy. I can easily enjoy cop shows because I know they're not real and I don't need them to be real. Sure it's great that some do reflect reality but I'm a grown person that enjoys entertainment as just that sometimes. I can enjoy Brooklyn Nine-Nine just as much as I can enjoy watching something like Friday The 13th. Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers. I think there's definitely a place for people who want to enjoy the fantasy of a competent, thoughtful, spirit of the law police force that is trying to do good when the reality is that most people's interactions with cops when they are victims is "tough poo poo, we can't do anything" unless they are literally standing there about to watch a murder go down. Again, some people go hard on the thin blue line and all, but those are the people watch something like Blue Bloods and enthusiastically boo at the TV when internal affairs shows up to investigate why black teens keep dying in solitary confinement. Southland was a great show for the same reason B99 is. Its a character show that uses them being cops as just providing the circumstances for character development.
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X-O posted:I get the point about children being fed the wrong messages when they are young but that doesn't just apply to the morality of cop shows or even TV in a broader sense. I don't care who you are, you're indoctrinated as a child with some kind of wrong message. Everyone is. The point is that you grow up learn it's either wrong or a fantasy. I can easily enjoy cop shows because I know they're not real and I don't need them to be real. Sure it's great that some do reflect reality but I'm a grown person that enjoys entertainment as just that sometimes. I can enjoy Brooklyn Nine-Nine just as much as I can enjoy watching something like Friday The 13th. Doesn't mean I'm pro hockey masked killers at summer camps butchering teenagers. Get back to us when hockey masked killers are a real thing that happens every day to real actual people I guess? Watch Brooklyn 99, who cares? It's a funny show, but we can also recognize that it has problems. I know you understand that, of course, so maybe you're not the one that needs to hear that maybe we should think twice about constantly portraying an institution that routinely violates the rights of and murders innocent people, often based on race, as an absolute necessity to prevent total chaos that is not only above reproach, but is actually held back by civil rights and due process. But maybe we should talk about it so the people that do need to hear it think about it? Because indoctrination doesn't stop when people grow up, or we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we do.
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Seems like you can't say "violent video games/movies don't cause violence" at the same time you say "cop shows are a critical part of the persistence of the American carceral state", so I assume people agree that violent video games lead to increased violence now. Either media affects behavior or it doesn't.
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muscles like this! posted:Amazon's Wheel of Time has been renewed for a second season. (Still no idea when s1 will actual air though.) It's going to be a very hard property to adapt, and I think there will be a lot of fan complaint about all the changes they will have to do. But I hope it will be good.
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zoux posted:Seems like you can't say "violent video games/movies don't cause violence" at the same time you say "cop shows are a critical part of the persistence of the American carceral state", so I assume people agree that violent video games lead to increased violence now. Either media affects behavior or it doesn't. Come on. You have to be smarter than this.
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Escobarbarian posted:Come on. You have to be smarter than this. Oh, probably not.
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