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Zaphod42 posted:This is indeed very glib. Do you have any idea how long it is? I don't agree with this. This implies the artist has an impossible or nearly impossible vision and that's why it didn't get completed. A great piece of literature (and I think you can include graphic novels) is better when it can be viewed as a whole with an arc, a beginning and an end. Visual art doesn't have the same structure. Idk I just don't like manga that just stretch on forever and ever. It feels plodding and aimless to me and I am not convinced we would have ever seen an ending even with another 30 years of Berserk.
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May 21, 2021 00:53
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Anything is art if people say it is, but the word "art" in itself does not confer any special meaning.
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May 21, 2021 00:55
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My favorite art is not art that I appreciate ironically therefore turning it into art
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May 21, 2021 00:56
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PantsBandit posted:I don't agree with this. This implies the artist has an impossible or nearly impossible vision and that's why it didn't get completed. A great piece of literature (and I think you can include graphic novels) is better when it can be viewed as a whole with an arc, a beginning and an end. Visual art doesn't have the same structure. Bingo. Being able to walk away from something and call it Complete requires courage. Leaving something incomplete is an effective yet highly-neurotic way to avoid criticism.
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May 21, 2021 00:56
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I think needing it to have an ending is pointlessly restrictive. Long-form media that follow generations of characters and story that builds and builds and builds are really unique. If you don't like them, that's fine, but that's true of all art. There is no art that everybody will like. But I think even if you don't want a story without a clear single arc, you should respect other people who do and the artist who did such a thing. Especially works like this, Miura worked on other manga while pausing Berserk and returning to it time and again. Similar things have happened with JoJo's and One Piece and they're the 3 best manga ever made. Sometimes a nice single arc story is great. Some of my favorite anime are those that only run for ~10 episodes instead of 10 seasons. But things like Berserk are epics, and are amazing. mkvltra posted:Bingo. Being able to walk away from something and call it Complete requires courage. Leaving something incomplete is an effective yet highly-neurotic way to avoid criticism. ...because nobody can criticize Berserk?  this doesn't hold water. He didn't die as an excuse. You're basically saying nobody should ever attempt a long-format story, and that's silly.
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May 21, 2021 00:57
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There's nothing more boring in art than the discussion about what is and isn't art.
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May 21, 2021 00:57
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Like imagine saying Jojo's is bad because it isn't "done" lmao
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May 21, 2021 00:59
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the mere passing consideration of a work's worthiness as art immediately poisons your brain as to the work itself which should be appreciated without consternation as to the art status for the purest emotional response as intended by the creator edit what I am saying is: mutata posted:There's nothing more boring in art than the discussion about what is and isn't art.
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May 21, 2021 01:00
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Leaving something unfinished can be a coo
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May 21, 2021 01:06
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Zaphod42 posted:Like imagine saying Jojo's is bad because it isn't "done" lmao I haven't read a ton of Jojo but it's my understanding that the arcs, while having some recurring characters, are more self contained. Whereas Berserk was always presented as a contiguous story with characters and plot lines that will just never get a satisfying resolution.
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May 21, 2021 01:06
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PantsBandit posted:I haven't read a ton of Jojo but it's my understanding that the arcs, while having some recurring characters, are more self contained. Whereas Berserk was always presented as a contiguous story with characters and plot lines that will just never get a satisfying resolution. From what I've heard berserk did actually just get to a good stopping point where people are fine considering it done and resolved in a bittersweet way that matches with the rest of the series
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May 21, 2021 01:09
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art? more like fart
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May 21, 2021 01:09
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were there any berserk video games
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May 21, 2021 01:09
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Zaphod42 posted:Like imagine saying Jojo's is bad because it isn't "done" lmao Guts is pretty much the only protagonist of Berserk though, right? The entire canon of Berserk revolves around him. Each arc of JoJo has a very clear beginning and end, with different JoJo's each time. The individual arcs of JoJo can stand on their own. I'm definitely not saying either franchise is bad.
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May 21, 2021 01:10
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Fwiw I do think Berserk is valuable as a piece of art and I do understand the argument of valuing long-form art. I just also think writing an ending is an Important Part of writing a story and if you take 30 years to do it you definitely run the risk of never completing your work. And the work does suffer without an ending.
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May 21, 2021 01:10
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art is anything I think is good. anything I think blows is not artShallNoiseUpon posted:were there any berserk video games yeah, dark souls yeah at least one on PS2 I think
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May 21, 2021 01:14
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:were there any berserk video games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1oZGW6ZDog
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May 21, 2021 01:15
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Violen posted:https://twitter.com/SuperMarioT_YT/status/1394732688884576261 I have no clue what this was, but I wonder if it was something like this https://twitter.com/FJXSU/status/1395441405376540678 It would be kinda stupid and hilarious if the "meme middle eastern music" is actually real jihad propaganda songs but nobody online knows the language so they think it's just some cliche music
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May 21, 2021 01:20
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fArt
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May 21, 2021 01:22
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May Chat Thread 2.0: This is (f)art
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May 21, 2021 01:29
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PantsBandit posted:I haven't read a ton of Jojo but it's my understanding that the arcs, while having some recurring characters, are more self contained. Whereas Berserk was always presented as a contiguous story with characters and plot lines that will just never get a satisfying resolution. Yes and no. The villain of Jojo arc 1 isn't resolved until the end of arc 3/4, there's lots of crossover plots and characters. Araki has done a good job of making each story different in tone and style and setting, but definitely the new stories have heavy references and callbacks to the old ones, the plots build. But I mean, is that itself enough of a reason to say one should exist and the other shouldn't? Maybe a reason someone might prefer one to the other, sure, but otherwise...  mkvltra posted:Guts is pretty much the only protagonist of Berserk though, right? The entire canon of Berserk revolves around him. Each arc of JoJo has a very clear beginning and end, with different JoJo's each time. The individual arcs of JoJo can stand on their own. Guts is absolutely not the only protagonist of Berserk, not by a loving mile. Berserk is a story about chosen family. He is the core character and has been the entire run though. (Casca, Rickert, Farnese, Shirke, Isidro, Serpico, Puck, arguably even Silat and others) And even as different as JoJo is, Jotaro is preeeeeeetty central. No, he's not the main character of Stone Ocean, but Jolyne is his daughter so.... yeah. They're different but its not quite as black and white as you're making it out to be. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 01:38 on May 21, 2021 |
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May 21, 2021 01:34
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This is (not) art
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May 21, 2021 01:34
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You: This is (f)art Me (smart): Fart is art
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May 21, 2021 01:34
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After hearing it isolated I'm convinced the Bleach teleport sound is just farting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JvSZfBI2I
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May 21, 2021 01:39
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I'm Mr. Art, and I'll be the judge of what gets to use my name
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May 21, 2021 02:02
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm Mr. Art, and I'll be the judge of what gets to use my name Don't worry, I will retweet you, Mr. A
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May 21, 2021 02:06
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I'm the Art Critic, and I judge it so you don't have to
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May 21, 2021 02:07
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I find it crazy that success had like zero bearing on whether the Beserk guy long-term karoshi'ed himself or not What kept him glued to the work table until he died, gently caress
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May 21, 2021 02:12
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Monkey Fracas posted:I find it crazy that success had like zero bearing on whether the Beserk guy long-term karoshi'ed himself or not he started pacing himself more in the last several years, but the damage was already done
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May 21, 2021 02:18
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Monkey Fracas posted:I find it crazy that success had like zero bearing on whether the Beserk guy long-term karoshi'ed himself or not He died from a freak accident that could happen to anybody? Berserk took regular and notorious long breaks. Berserk was insanely meticulous, but I feel like other mangakas are way more overworked than him, when they try to keep things going and current and capture the popular zeitgeist. Berserk was so popular and so long running it didn't seem like he was under the same pressure. He wasn't fighting to be the top of Shonen Jump or whatever. I guess I don't quite understand what you mean here.
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May 21, 2021 02:19
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mutata posted:There's nothing more boring in art than the discussion about what is and isn't art. Actually there is something more boring! It's kramering into an innocent navel gazy convo with the opinion "the discussion you're having is literally the worst discussion you can have, bro" Like I dunno if you fully realize how obnoxious it can be when people do that
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May 21, 2021 02:28
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Webster dictionary defines Art as
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May 21, 2021 02:29
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Anyway I just took my first sip of Guiness Nitro Cold Brew Coffee and Holy gently caress it's delicious. Does what it says on the tin, it tastes like guiness with hints of really really good coffee. The cans have that little widget that makes it so you can pour it into a glass to get that nice creamy head, it's just awesome Only downside is that it's only 4% alcohol, which is why I bought another 4 pack of regular guiness draught so I can alternate
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May 21, 2021 02:30
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Zaphod42 posted:He died from a freak accident that could happen to anybody? Berserk took regular and notorious long breaks. Berserk was insanely meticulous, but I feel like other mangakas are way more overworked than him, when they try to keep things going and current and capture the popular zeitgeist. Berserk was so popular and so long running it didn't seem like he was under the same pressure. He wasn't fighting to be the top of Shonen Jump or whatever. Ah just heard people saying he "didn't go outside for years" and poo poo like that and kinda assumed it may have had an impact on his health and increased the likelihood of something like what killed him happening.
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May 21, 2021 02:33
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May 21, 2021 02:34
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Simone Magus posted:Actually there is something more boring! It's kramering into an innocent navel gazy convo with the opinion "the discussion you're having is literally the worst discussion you can have, bro" Oh for sure, man, whatever you say. Thanks for Kramering in with your useless critique on my completely innocuous comment in the general chat thread. Guess we're both boring obnoxious assholes.
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May 21, 2021 03:04
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mutata posted:Guess we're both boring obnoxious assholes. I mean both of you are goons, so really didn't need to be said tbh.
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May 21, 2021 03:05
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Art Vandelay?!
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May 21, 2021 03:05
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Zil posted:I mean both of you are goons, so really didn't need to be said tbh. It's a Games Chat Thread tradition!
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May 21, 2021 03:09
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i'm the most boring person in here you fascinating fucks
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