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Mister Facetious posted:Not saying you have to charge more, just match uber prices but give 99% of it to the drivers. I believe Uber currently pays drivers MORE than the revenue, because they're blowing through VC capital to try to run any competitors out of business and then make themselves the only game in town. You're somewhat constrained by the network effect on this too. Also, lol if you think "uh guys it's JUST a FEW servers and a couple nerds, how hard could this be?" when Uber is now (unfortunately) one of the top tech talent pools. P.S. your drivers will come with a $50 phone that was last updated 4 years ago, enjoy the absolute hell of compatibility with older devices.
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You need marketing, so people know you exist. You need some compliance, gathering and filing details about drivers and their DL details. Regular maintenance of the app is probably a good idea too. But yeah, without either the mountain of burning money or massive overhead reductions, Uber is gonna get it's lunch eaten (and is right now, where I live)
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For context, I live in New Zealand, where the taxi industry was completely deregulated in the 90's. We did our version of Reaganomics/Thatchernomics properly, to the point where when Uber first came here, they initially did the whole "rules don't apply to us" thing but when they realised how easy compliance was they just did it. People flocked to it immediately, because the Uber app is actually quite good, and beat calling a cab and hoping like poo poo it would come. But now we have at least 4 companies in the space (Didi, Ola, Uber and a local version) and Uber is rapidly losing market share.
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Volmarias posted:I believe Uber currently pays drivers MORE than the revenue, Well that's hosed up, because they're at least ten to fifteen years away from reliably safe driving AI. I hope they have some deep pockets. 
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Mister Facetious posted:Well that's hosed up, because they're at least ten to fifteen years away from reliably safe driving AI. I hope they have some deep pockets. Uber is no longer developing self-driving cars.
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Fame Douglas posted:Uber is no longer developing self-driving cars.  I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that basing your economic plan on that of the Underpants Gnomes is not a recipe for long term success.
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uber sold off its self driving division because that was just a nice fictional story to tell investors anyway - even if a genie made a perfect level 5 self driving car tomorrow, ubers business model is completely incompatible with self driving cars. sure they can "cut out the labor cost" of the driver but the driver isn't just labor, the driver also assumes all fiscal responsibility for the vehicle they provide. it would cost big big money to stand up the infrastructure necessary for uber to own and maintain these vehicles, or if uber just contracts out other people's self driving cars then uber is just one of many interchangable middlemen to be discarded once a better middleman comes along. basically a world with self driving cars is a world where anyone who has a car already has their own uber, so you're basically renting out anyone else's car i guess, and why would you need uber specifically for that once it is even easier for anyone to do their own silly taxi business? in fact, i think the whole "cut out the labor cost" is just the cliche reason for how automation will boost profits. "cut labor cost, bing bong, so number!" is the obvious thought but if you think about it for a bit, uber is better off in a world without self driving cars (because then driving remains enough of a pain in the rear end to where you'd prefer to just hire someone to drive you somewhere) regardless, the pandemic hit uber pretty hard and they couldn't afford the happy fiction of self driving cars being a magical path to solvency Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:59 on May 22, 2021 |
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Also, I'm not saying we'll never get to the point of having an AI that can navigate a street scene as well as a human brain, but lol if you think we are even close to it. Let alone one that could react with the speed a human does in judging whether that thing ahead is really a truck or just a light patch of sky.
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Mister Facetious posted:
The ??? Step is "achieve monopoly status in the local market, charge monopoly prices"
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Volmarias posted:The ??? Step is "achieve monopoly status in the local market, charge monopoly prices"
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Long term success hasn't been anyone's goal for decades now, it barely matters what bullshit you make up for investors.
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Silly Burrito posted:And when you take a ride with someone who has an app of their own, isn't insured, and you get into an accident, then what? Buyer beware? That's Uber's model. They don't check the drivers more than legally required which is usually not at all and if there's a problem, the driver has violated the TOS and so it's not Uber's problem.
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duz posted:That's Uber's model. They don't check the drivers more than legally required which is usually not at all and if there's a problem, the driver has violated the TOS and so it's not Uber's problem. Even then, you can technically still bring a lawsuit against Uber (and yes, I know you can file a lawsuit against anyone, doesn't mean you'll win) instead of just a random person.
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May 23, 2021 03:50
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The rich and poor alike have equal access to the courts.
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Just sue them and spend the next 8 years in various courtrooms, idgi.
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https://libretaxi.org/ already exists, everyone.
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xtal posted:https://libretaxi.org/ already exists, everyone. quote:Cash only Truly the transportation system of the future.
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Well of course it's cash only with Bitcoin coming. I hope I can tip in Doge.
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jumping through hoops to reinvent the jitney taxi
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Mister Facetious posted:
Uber's actual reason to exist was to utilize large wads of Saudi money to make Prop 22 a thing. Then to push it National. The actual taxiing they don't care about.
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xtal posted:https://libretaxi.org/ already exists, everyone. i get what its trying to say but loudly proclaiming that it's hackable maybe not the best marketing
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GPS and cashless is like the main reasons to use Uber. Next idea: in order to guarantee driver income, only those who buy a licence can drive a taxi, be in quick stocks are limited!!
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I’ve often wished that there was an Uber with no way to tell whose car I was about to hop onto, no way to track the location of this stranger’s car that I am in, and also I have to pay in cash only.
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withak posted:I’ve often wished that there was an Uber with no way to tell whose car I was about to hop onto, no way to track the location of this stranger’s car that I am in, and also I have to pay in cash only. It's really popular in rural north Ireland.
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So these drivers are just going around carrying lots of cash and you can call them to come to you?
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Senor Tron posted:So these drivers are just going around carrying lots of cash and you can call them to come to you? Or you could be a driver who carries no cash and wait for people with cash to call you instead. It's entirely up to you how you want to use the app.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:It's really popular in rural north Ireland. You say that but I live about 20 miles outside Belfast and literally the only taxi I can persuade to come to my house of a weekend is UBer. Which led to this fantastic text from a friend who left my house the other evening 
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xarph posted:https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1396923429807292417 Sounds like the CEO needs to be arrested for kidnapping so they can dig up all the bodies under his basement.
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xarph posted:https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1396923429807292417 A literal child's understanding of how the Justice system works* * And how the CIA actually operate
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The app should figure out how to legally consider its customers part of an interstate railroad so it’d all be legal.
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hobbesmaster posted:The app should figure out how to legally consider its customers part of an interstate railroad so it’d all be legal.  I'm all for it so long as we start to increase the number of trains we run across these new railroads...
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You might get arrested for not bringing your trash cans in, but at least the trains run on time.
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hobbesmaster posted:The app should figure out how to legally consider its customers part of an interstate railroad so it’d all be legal. leave it to a tech bro to invent an underground railroad that puts people INTO slavery
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xarph posted:https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1396923429807292417 It's only a matter of time. The fact that actual police departments don't make a profit for anyone will be their downfall. Public money going to make people rich is how the American system works now.
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/1396869330877526021?s=21 This is less stupid than the NFTs. It's still stupid, but it's more in the vein of star citizen or gaia online. It's old school digital status seeking.
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