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There are photos out of an F-15E with 5 JASSMs loaded, and it is amazing. Looks goofy as hell, drag must be insane, but pretty cool capability. Current max load is 2x JASSMs. With 5 mountable, you could have a squadron of 12 F-15Es at a 75% mission capable rate, launch 9 aircraft with 6 shooters and 3 alibi firers in case of aircraft/munition failure or reattack, and still have the six primary shooters carrying more JASSMs than a heavy bomber. Pretty impressive!
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# ? May 22, 2021 10:07 |
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In other news, Chinese naval 30mm CIWS R&D is starting to get a little comical.
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# ? May 22, 2021 18:40 |
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mlmp08 posted:There are photos out of an F-15E with 5 JASSMs loaded, and it is amazing. Looks goofy as hell, drag must be insane, but pretty cool capability. Current max load is 2x JASSMs. It probably still has a better combat radius than a super hornet.
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# ? May 22, 2021 18:49 |
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Dante80 posted:In other news, Chinese naval 30mm CIWS R&D is starting to get a little comical. More like awesome. is there video of this firing anywhere?
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# ? May 22, 2021 18:52 |
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Dante80 posted:In other news, Chinese naval 30mm CIWS R&D is starting to get a little comical. MOAR DAKKA
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# ? May 22, 2021 18:53 |
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priznat posted:MOAR DAKKA Yeah, this thing fires the top and bottom barrels simultaneously, too. No video yet from what I've seen/heard.
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:00 |
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MRC48B posted:More like awesome. is there video of this firing anywhere? it looks like it's basically the same thing as the 1130s they just put on the aircraft carrier but there's some speculation that this model might have multiple firing points around the circle, which is actually stupendously cool if you can get it to work I have absolutely no idea if it works
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:08 |
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MRC48B posted:More like awesome. is there video of this firing anywhere? Not yet, I think this one was from a - redacted - slide presentation. It is a prototype going up against a dual 1130 config for the next PLAN CIWS turret design. 20 barrels for it, against 22 for the dual 1130.
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:13 |
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bewbies posted:but there's some speculation that this model might have multiple firing points around the circle, which is actually stupendously cool if you can get it to work
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:15 |
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hahaha that's even cooler than i thought. multiple chambers for the same set of barrels. wow.
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:26 |
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I can't see the dual-weapon design being chosen other than for value. Does it have dynamic convergence or are the barrels fixed in place? Double the chance of breakdowns and twice the 30mm that needs to be carried to reload the things and *offload* when you dock up.
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:27 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I can't see the dual-weapon design being chosen other than for value. Does it have dynamic convergence or are the barrels fixed in place? Double the chance of breakdowns and twice the 30mm that needs to be carried to reload the things and *offload* when you dock up. It is not really a new concept though (see AK-630M-2, Kortik, Sea Zenith etc).. If I could wager a guess, the prototype above would have a much lower TRL.
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# ? May 22, 2021 19:35 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I can't see the dual-weapon design being chosen other than for value. Does it have dynamic convergence or are the barrels fixed in place? Double the chance of breakdowns and twice the 30mm that needs to be carried to reload the things and *offload* when you dock up. The firing barrels are only about a foot apart. I don't think convergence is going to be a serious problem.
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# ? May 22, 2021 21:49 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I can't see the dual-weapon design being chosen other than for value. Does it have dynamic convergence or are the barrels fixed in place? Double the chance of breakdowns and twice the 30mm that needs to be carried to reload the things and *offload* when you dock up. Not twice the ammo, the choice is between two dual chamber weapons, just one has 20 shared barrels, 2x11 in the other configuration. The double has the advantage that theoretically something could go catastrophically wrong with one gun and the other could still keep on firing, while with the shared barrels that's less likely.
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# ? May 22, 2021 22:28 |
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I don't know if it matters, but new documents show that in the Taiwan crisis of 1959 America has...more detailed plans to use nukes against china than previously known. e: quote:But American military officials preferred that risk to the possibility of losing the islands. The study paraphrased Gen. Nathan F. Twining, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as saying that if atomic bombings of air bases did not force China to break off the conflict, there would be “no alternative but to conduct nuclear strikes deep into China as far north as Shanghai.” Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 02:15 on May 23, 2021 |
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China posted:MOAR DAKKA Is that thing fed by two belts or does it need to divide the rounds up as they go through?
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# ? May 22, 2021 23:01 |
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Cat Hatter posted:Is that thing fed by two belts or does it need to divide the rounds up as they go through? have you played factorio?
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# ? May 22, 2021 23:11 |
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bewbies posted:have you played factorio?
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# ? May 22, 2021 23:22 |
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bewbies posted:it looks like it's basically the same thing as the 1130s they just put on the aircraft carrier but there's some speculation that this model might have multiple firing points around the circle, which is actually stupendously cool if you can get it to work So it's really two electrically fired guns sharing the same rotary barrel setup???
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# ? May 22, 2021 23:42 |
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bewbies posted:have you played factorio? So a pair of robotic arms that pull the rounds off and place them into a second and third belt then?
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# ? May 22, 2021 23:44 |
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China is about to unlock fast inserters. We cannot allow a red flask tech gap.
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# ? May 23, 2021 00:16 |
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:AETP increasing the F-35’s range by 25% and giving it super cruise makes it one compelling business argument. The F-35 has range for days for a single engine jet, this is even more range. And you get out to that further point faster. While I take the news with a grain of salt, it sounds like GE's XA100 has met and exceeded every performance promise made at the outset.
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# ? May 23, 2021 00:30 |
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MrChips posted:While I take the news with a grain of salt, it sounds like GE's XA100 has met and exceeded every performance promise made at the outset. Yeah, GE’s about to hit second engine to test. From what’s been made public they worked manufacturing witchcraft and built something even better than the goddamned F-135, which is bonkers because that engine runs on unicorn blood and the lost souls of engineers. The F-35 has upgrade pathways, with AETP bearing fruit we can probably expect the re-engine program to go forward. 40k of thrust with afterburner from one engine that is the same size as the “old” F-135 engine while also improving fuel efficiency by 25% is some serious voodoo. loving voodoo I say. ~10% more thrust from the same sized package is a commendable achievement, but add in the efficiency gains and you just know those are some voodoo engines. loving voodoo.
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# ? May 23, 2021 03:00 |
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Given the thread title, figured I'd put this tweet here. https://twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/1194885107267461120
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# ? May 23, 2021 07:36 |
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Do note the date, though.
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# ? May 23, 2021 07:52 |
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Platystemon posted:Do note the date, though. I will do no such thing gently caress
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# ? May 23, 2021 08:03 |
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Soooo Russia and its satellites are going for air piracy now, cool. Cool cool cool. https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1396443632954183681 I mean I guess it’s good they didn’t shoot it down but still..
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# ? May 23, 2021 16:56 |
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priznat posted:Soooo Russia and its satellites are going for air piracy now, cool. Cool cool cool. Suwalki is the new Fulda.
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# ? May 23, 2021 17:31 |
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There aren't any A-6s flying anymore, right? https://apnews.com/article/italy-cable-car-84672bf7fcd99f103587cc3862b49dcc
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# ? May 23, 2021 21:37 |
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They retired the last of the Prowlers in the ancient bygone era of 2019, so it looks like they can't blame the Marines for this one.
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Hobo on Fire posted:They retired the last of the Prowlers in the ancient bygone era of 2019, so it looks like they can't blame the Marines for this one. VMAQ-2 out of retirement with the Prowler for our Farewell Tour. We're gonna hit this wire with whatever we've got, and it's full EMCON-Delta with our squadron's song! All anyone with a receiver will hear is "Purple Rain" for at least 200nm (unclas-noforn)! 400nm for 5-eyes countries, 300m for anyone we don't have embedded in their CCCI
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# ? May 24, 2021 07:17 |
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priznat posted:Soooo Russia and its satellites are going for air piracy now, cool. Cool cool cool. What are the non-military responses to something like this that the Belarussians would actually feel? Specific to air travel, I don't mean general economic sanctions.
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# ? May 24, 2021 20:19 |
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Deny overflight clearance.
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zoux posted:What are the non-military responses to something like this that the Belarussians would actually feel? Specific to air travel, I don't mean general economic sanctions. https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1396840714642804741 Hopefully more countries follow suit It looks like airlines are already routing around Belarus airspace as well in some cases.
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zoux posted:What are the non-military responses to something like this that the Belarussians would actually feel? Specific to air travel, I don't mean general economic sanctions. Specific to air travel? Probably not much, unless all the airlines just wanted to unilaterally stop flying there, in which case it would just be a situation where everyone would transfer from United or whatever to Aeroflot in some neighboring country. It's the sort of thing that really needs to be handled at the state level. That said, if I was some foreign airline and actually gave a poo poo about the possibility of my flights being intercepted and forced down I'd probably spend the extra on fuel to go around it. It wouldn't be anything Belarus would actually feel, but it would hopefully prevent a recurrence.
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It's never really occurred to me but what kind of training is a commercial airline pilot given for these situations. Just "do what ever the missile-armed weapons platform tells you do"?
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zoux posted:It's never really occurred to me but what kind of training is a commercial airline pilot given for these situations. Just "do what ever the missile-armed weapons platform tells you do"? I think they are at the mercy of whatever airspace they are in. They were much closer to Riga than Minsk but were told to land in Minsk after an alleged bomb threat was called in. If the pilots were more aware of what was going on they could probably declare an emergency and head for Riga but who knows what the MiG29 would have done, probably escalating close maneuvers putting everyone on board at risk up to warning shots fired. So it might be more difficult to do this sort of thing again without severely overplaying their hand. Some video footage of the abducted journalist’s “confession” has come out and it’s really chilling. E: predictably there is a disinfo campaign underway to paint the guy as a fascist via ukraine https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1396896182752972800 E2: EU sealing off air traffic from belarus https://twitter.com/dpa_intl/status/1396918682027282440 priznat fucked around with this message at 21:05 on May 24, 2021 |
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priznat posted:E: predictably there is a disinfo campaign underway to paint the guy as a fascist via ukraine Even if you give them the full benefit of the doubt that Protasevich is planning the overthrown the Belarusian government how non-critical do you have to be to think that forcibly diverting a plane full of civilian passengers travelling between two EU countries is somehow justified by one passengers political views?
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# ? May 24, 2021 21:12 |
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Murgos posted:Even if you give them the full benefit of the doubt that Protasevich is planning the overthrown the Belarusian government how non-critical do you have to be to think that forcibly diverting a plane full of civilian passengers travelling between two EU countries is somehow justified by one passengers political views? Yeah it’s pretty typical playbook where one “bad” (often faked) thing nullifies their opposition to whatever and/or the tactics used against them, see also Navalny. Term for these folks doing it are “Greyzoners”, either paid by the regime or useful idiots.
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Murgos posted:Even if you give them the full benefit of the doubt that Protasevich is planning the overthrown the Belarusian government how non-critical do you have to be to think that forcibly diverting a plane full of civilian passengers travelling between two EU countries is somehow justified by one passengers political views? Well the reason they gave was that Hamas called in a bomb threat on the plane. https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1396836037217984514 https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1396916626621140996 Hamas is like wtf? zoux fucked around with this message at 21:22 on May 24, 2021 |
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