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grieving for Gandalf posted:aren't the Inhumans related to the X-Men, too, or was that just the garbo retcon they tried to do when X-Men properties still belonged to someone else No, they just tried to replace X men with the Inhumans and made the chemical that uplifts Inhumams toxic to people with the mutant gene.
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Now the Inhumans are relegated to background characters again while the mutants are still on their multi book saga that people keep buying.
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May 24, 2021 15:21
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The MSJ posted:the mutants are still on their multi book saga that people keep buying.
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May 24, 2021 15:36
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^ The X-men have actually gone through some interesting phases like the Morrison-Era really setting mutants up as an unique culture or Aaron recasting Wolverine as Professor X. It all eventually just runs its course and goes back to the status quo though. ^ I really liked the swagger of The Eternals trailer starting with "It's beautiful, isn't it?" Very self-aware of this being much prettier than your usual Avengers flick.
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May 24, 2021 15:47
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Marvel Comics tried really hard to push Inhumans and pretend that X-Men are a second rate franchise but once the Fox deal was finalized they finally let A-list writers and artists to work on X-Men and started like a dozen new series with a very cool weird sci-fi (but completely unfilmable, thankfully) direction. Eternals are better than Inhumans because the chariots of gods stuff is more interesting than the very iffy eugenics and noble royals bullshit that always goes in the Inhumans stories. that trailer is no DUNC though
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May 24, 2021 15:58
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Eternals trailer does have a very different vibe and look than the other MCU movies (except for the comedic stinger at the end of all of them). Comedic and self referential! Ugh, that really sapped my enthusiasm after and otherwise unique trailer.
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May 24, 2021 16:00
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To be fair, I think every trailer in the last 5 years is produced using the exact same formula. [Slightly Remixed Version of Popular Song plays over black screen or environmental shot] [Character says something ominous or philosophical in voice over] [Fade to Black] [From the Studio/Director/Writer that brought you...] [That deep bass bend "Bwaaaa" sound effect and quick shot of action scene] [Fade to black] [Rapid series of quick cuts] [Voice over hinting at conflict with no music] [Credits] [Ending stinger with hilarious one-liner] [FIN]
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May 24, 2021 16:14
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fatherboxx posted:Marvel Comics tried really hard to push Inhumans and pretend that X-Men are a second rate franchise but once the Fox deal was finalized they finally let A-list writers and artists to work on X-Men and started like a dozen new series with a very cool weird sci-fi (but completely unfilmable, thankfully) direction. Although I would like to see the public reaction if Disney for some reason decided to skip straight from the Fox era X-men to the Krakoa era X-Men. "In 2025 we're releasing X-Men: Polycule, where Scott, Jean, and Logan deal with raising their collective time-displace children on the dark side of the moon, followed in 2026 by X-Men: Way of X, which is about Nightcrawler coming to grips with his Catholic faith in a world where death no longer exists." It probably wouldn't go over well in China.
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May 24, 2021 16:17
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:To be fair, I think every trailer in the last 5 years is produced using the exact same formula. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbkxyZfI8k
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May 24, 2021 16:18
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JazzFlight posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A That is hilarious and a much better version of what I was saying. That "Bwaaa" sound has to have some award for being featured in more movies than the Wilhelm Scream.
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May 24, 2021 16:23
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:To be fair, I think every trailer in the last 5 years is produced using the exact same formula. I've been watching old trailers recently and I prefer this to the Era of voice overs that spell out everything. IN A WORLD...
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May 24, 2021 16:43
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props to taika for his poly triad
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May 24, 2021 17:29
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I only know there was a bit where the X-Men all got swords. Also they fought Dracula at some point.
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May 24, 2021 18:00
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I only know there was a bit where the X-Men all got swords. Multiple Marvel comics have had storylines about fighting Dracula. Dracula also has a floating city of night slaves that he rules as a king and uses it to launch an invasion of the United States. When you are making comics for 70+ years, you need to either reboot or start just going insane every 5 years or so.
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May 24, 2021 18:27
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Are there still two versions of the original X-Men in the same universe, because fans liked having both the current continuity grown-up X-Men and the movie-reflecting teenage X-Men in the same setting?
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May 24, 2021 19:04
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No, there's currently one set of X-Men but they're running a pseudo-ethnostate from a sentient island/dimension. It's pretty good!
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May 24, 2021 19:06
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josh04 posted:No, there's currently one set of X-Men but they're running a pseudo-ethnostate from a sentient island/dimension. It's pretty good! Who are they? So is there no Astonishing X-Men or Uncanny or BLue and GOld teams now? What happened to X-Force and X-factor?
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May 24, 2021 19:59
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The heroes and villains teamed up to form the nation, there's still about twenty titles to choose from though. I'm a little behind since I haven't been able to go to a comic store since before covid.
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May 24, 2021 20:17
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Eternals kinda looks like a Tarsem Singh movie with weird desaturation and less pretty visuals.
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May 24, 2021 21:37
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I was letting X-Men titles accumulate in my subscription folder at my local shop for about 4 years, and going in every 4-6 weeks to empty it. But my read pile got so impossibly big that I never read *any* of it, and I think I ended up not reading past X-Men Gold 11 and X-Men Blue... 9? Something like that. Meanwhile, a mighty hoard of other X-books are just sitting in long boxes. I did get the Hickman reboot (I guess it was a reboot?) with them all on Krakoa. It definitely seemed like a solid setup, but I never read past those initial 6 issues each of House of X and Powers of X. So I have no idea where it went after that. Also, the Eternals trailer looks pretty. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't definitely interested in whatever it is they are going to do. Ikarus, Ajak and Thena look like they're going to carry most of the story weight, which wouldn't be a surprise. I just want to know what Black Knight is up to in this. I need to watch it again, but was Kit Harrington shown anywhere in there?
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Doronin posted:Also, the Eternals trailer looks pretty. And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't definitely interested in whatever it is they are going to do. Ikarus, Ajak and Thena look like they're going to carry most of the story weight, which wouldn't be a surprise. I just want to know what Black Knight is up to in this. I need to watch it again, but was Kit Harrington shown anywhere in there? There's a quick shot of him looking up at the sky to see some kind of anomaly and walking towards it. It's around 1:30.
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Necrothatcher posted:Eternals kinda looks like a Tarsem Singh movie with weird desaturation and less pretty visuals. It even visually references the whirling dervishes.
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May 24, 2021 23:03
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Eternals looks decent but not every shot needs to be underlit jfc
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Lets see how Chloe Zhao gets mentioned when marketing Eternals. In the West, they're probably gonna lean in on the "from Oscar-winning director" angle. But they can't say her name in when promoting it in China.
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Continuing onwards, I've reviewed episode 5 of Invincible in my series.
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josh04 posted:Continuing onwards, I've reviewed episode 5 of Invincible in my series. Anyone who is not reading these: this is a really good, well-written series of essays, and the gimmick of watching the show in reverse chronological order actually gives it a bit of fun that the (very serious) analysis plays with.
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May 25, 2021 00:58
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I feel like the concept of Ancient Aliens is kind of racist, even if it is giving it to the Greeks as much as anyone. Maybe it's anti-humanist?
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It's definitely racist. I mean, I'm pretty sure some of the earliest examples openly questioned how primitives could have built pyramids and so on. And a lot of them quickly spiral into lurid race science fantasies.
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porfiria posted:I feel like the concept of Ancient Aliens is kind of racist, even if it is giving it to the Greeks as much as anyone. Maybe it's anti-humanist? Some shows are science. Some shows are science fiction. Ancient Aliens is science fan-fiction.
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The main ancient alien guy is Greek and his theory is that the ancient Egyptians and Greeks were basically ruled by a secret cabal of aliens who gave them batteries and medicine, but took it all away later.
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May 25, 2021 01:36
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Ancient Aliens is a documentary on the history channel. How can it be science fiction huh?
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Hoop Dreams posted:Ancient Aliens is a documentary on the history channel. How can it be science fiction huh? I don't know if they still do it, but after History got so much flak for airing Ancient Aliens, they used to have a disclaimer before the show that said "These claims have not been proven to be a fact and are theories based on the best evidence currently available. Archeologists and historians do not have a consensus on the exact causes for many of the phenomena in this episode."
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May 25, 2021 01:44
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I don't know if they still do it, but after History got so much flak for airing Ancient Aliens, they used to have a disclaimer before the show that said "These claims have not been proven to be a fact and are theories based on the best evidence currently available. Archeologists and historians do not have a consensus on the exact causes for many of the phenomena in this episode." That makes it worse
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May 25, 2021 01:45
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Yeah that makes it like five times worse. gently caress, I really gotta watch that show sometime, it sounds incredible.
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porfiria posted:I feel like the concept of Ancient Aliens is kind of racist, even if it is giving it to the Greeks as much as anyone. Maybe it's anti-humanist? The basic concept was directly inspired by HP Lovecraft, so...
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:Yeah that makes it like five times worse. gently caress, I really gotta watch that show sometime, it sounds incredible. The Bigfoot episode is legit amazing. It has the lowest lows and the highest highs. Starting out with actual honest to god "oh yeah that would make sense" bits about unexplored cave networks near forested area, NOT hollow earth stuff, like specific areas near where bigfoot sightings happened. By the end of the episode it's about how Bigfoot is a human/alien DNA splice servitor race that escaped from its alien overlords but also is the result of Russian genetic manipulation and then there's a CG "reenactment" of a Bigfoot staring sagely towards the viewer in a forest as a UFO's light then shines upon him. Completely loving insane to for a channel called The History Channel to air that show but oh my lord that one episode is a must watch.
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Pillowpants posted:Who are they? So is there no Astonishing X-Men or Uncanny or BLue and GOld teams now? What happened to X-Force and X-factor? Most of them are still around. The main crux is that they've formed their ethnostate and had so many weird powers running around that they can go full posthuman and bring any mutant back from the dead using cloned bodies and psychic backups of their personalities. They can also make miracle drugs that can cure most diseases such as cancer and alzheimers and use trade deals for these drugs as political leverage to get their ethnostate recognized as a sovereign nation. X-Force operates as the nation's off the books wetworks. X-Factor investigates mutant deaths and disappearances. Kate Pryde leads a team that acts as the strong arm of mutant capitalism and Nightcrawler is leading a few folks exploring the implications of how their immortality conflicts with his religious beliefs. For theories time there wasn't a team called the X-Men due to the ruling councils worries about political ramifications of members of a foreign nation operating, uninvited, in other countries but Cyclops told them to get stuffed and he was going back to saving lives. Vvvv They brokered a deal with Krakoa, a sapient island, to love there so no living things were actually displaced. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 03:47 on May 25, 2021 |
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Was it built on top of the natives of the land, or are they trying to avoid the most obvious ethnostate comparison
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Most of them are still around. The main crux is that they've formed their ethnostate and had so many weird powers running around that they can go full posthuman and bring any mutant back from the dead using cloned bodies and psychic backups of their personalities. They can also make miracle drugs that can cure most diseases such as cancer and alzheimers and use trade deals for these drugs as political leverage to get their ethnostate recognized as a sovereign nation. Having also not read an x-men comic since the 90's, this seems really familiar. Almost like there was a prominent mutant villain fighting for the same thing...
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The basic concept was directly inspired by HP Lovecraft, so... At it's most basic level, I guess. But you could say the stuff was inspired by H. G. Wells's War of the Worlds, too. The real inspiration/kickstarter was Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods. And Von Daniken does make the occasional appearance on the show to It's not an unfun show. It travels to some really cool places in the world. However, you really do need to keep a (metaphorical) container of Mortan's with you because you will need to take the Ancient Astronaut
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