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Also bring back the Tsar of all Slavs event, that poo poo was dope.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Also bring back the Tsar of all Slavs event, that poo poo was dope. I too enjoy being made master of the balkans and vassalizing the Ottoman Empire in exchange for winning a stupid easy war
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May 25, 2021 06:20
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I will take my US privilege, and play as my home nation for my first Vicky game, though I generally prefer smaller nations.
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May 25, 2021 06:28
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I liked playing as Mexico, it became a survival game as you attempted to piece together enough of an army to fight off the eternal gringo hell wars until hopefully you managed to push back enough they couldn't fight a war anymore. or more likely you just accepted that first big loss and then picked up the pieces.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Oh hey actual good question for Wiz: Will the peru-bolivia confederation be modled at game start? They’re in both of the previous ones
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May 25, 2021 08:47
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Baronjutter posted:I keep seeing people referencing panels and presentations but when I google around or look on youtube for them I'm only finding videos of people "reacting" to the presentation rather than the footage its self. Is this all from a in-person con that hasn't had its footage released yet? You can save yourself a lot of time and awkwardness by just watching OPB's summaries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irVnDdr7R8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLoJUfyMY7c
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fuf posted:You can save yourself a lot of time and awkwardness by just watching OPB's summaries: He is a cool dude
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May 25, 2021 09:57
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I'll probably roll France for a first game, they're large and powerful enough to be forgiving of mistakes with room for expansion and the obvious goal of knocking those arrogant Anglos down a peg. Good enough for learning the game, plus I have a soft spot for their geopolitical position.
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May 25, 2021 10:09
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my favorite thing to do in vicky 2 was to unify german so my first game in v3 will probably be prussia and after that I will content myself by trying to do increasingly weird poo poo until I go back to forming germany.
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May 25, 2021 10:11
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Also just checked out the Vickynomics pamphlet and I'm kinda excited for something that hasn't been talked about much - trade fleets. V2's magical "if a good is produced anyone in the market anywhere can buy it" economy always suffered from that particular weakness and I look forward to a world in which a naval arms race matters because you're trying as hard as you can to protect your trade fleets and raid those of your enemies in the event of war, and in which industry needs to be devoted to shipbuilding to increase the scope of your economy and bring in more imports while selling more exports.
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May 25, 2021 10:31
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The announcement of Victoria The Third means I had to go back to Vicky2 and I have completely forgotten how to play this game, it's awesome
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May 25, 2021 11:06
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Zeroisanumber posted:Also bring back the Tsar of all Slavs event, that poo poo was dope. Not emptyquoting
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May 25, 2021 12:19
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forkboy84 posted:The announcement of Victoria The Third means I had to go back to Vicky2 and I have completely forgotten how to play this game, it's awesome I really like the fact that certain techs can seriously impact power dynamics (machine gun), but I hope they have some time delay before they take full effect in Victoria 3. A little power spike that builds to represent a period of rollout, adaptation, and iteration might make sense, without burdening the player with gun variants or other HOI-ish details.
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May 25, 2021 13:17
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Hellioning posted:I will take my US privilege, and play as my home nation for my first Vicky game, though I generally prefer smaller nations. I always loved completely gaming the Civil War and focusing growth on yankee states and only making armies out of yankee pops.
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May 25, 2021 14:26
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My most memorable game of Vicky 2 has to be playing the Swiss in a multiplayer game and managing to remain neutral in every single war over the game (except for the last 20 minutes to just see how powerful I was). I stayed a secondary power the whole game and had the highest prestige, and most educated population in the world and had the largest % of pops as craftsmen. I was mostly playing sim city obviously, but in my test war with Italy at the end I crushed them,.
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May 25, 2021 14:36
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I think my favorite runs in V2 were my Bavaria -> Great Power -> Germany route where I had to massively invest in my art and culture to keep up my GP status, and play the balancing game in between Prussia and Austria; and my Punjab -> India game where I spent years developing and evading being sphered by Britain long enough to launch multiple wars against the British Raj in order to create a unified, Great Power India. So I'll probably redo those!
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May 25, 2021 14:57
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I really hope you don't get to be a great power via painting and operas in V3.
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May 25, 2021 15:23
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I really hope you do, that mechanic rocks, sorry you have no culture
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May 25, 2021 15:25
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After playing through a game of Vicky 2 what I'd really like in V3 is for ideology to play a larger role than simply deciding policies. I want to feel the threat of a communist or fascist league of countries and they should generally try to invade or at least hinder liberal countries.
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May 25, 2021 15:31
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Star posted:After playing through a game of Vicky 2 what I'd really like in V3 is for ideology to play a larger role than simply deciding policies. I want to feel the threat of a communist or fascist league of countries and they should generally try to invade or at least hinder liberal countries. One of my more fun games was as the United Socialist States of America and intervening in every great war on behalf of which ever side had socialist governments.
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May 25, 2021 15:32
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OMG, when did this thread go gold?? The game isn't even out yet!!! That was fast, haha.
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Crazycryodude posted:I really hope you do, that mechanic rocks, sorry you have no culture I'd hope it gets a bit more interaction than "rush down these techs and hope you pop the inventions first"
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May 25, 2021 15:38
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Soylent Pudding posted:One of my more fun games was as the United Socialist States of America and intervening in every great war on behalf of which ever side had socialist governments. I think many players do stuff like that and it’d be great if the AI did as well. At least on a basic level where they become more sympathetic towards countries with similar ideologies.
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May 25, 2021 15:45
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Star posted:I think many players do stuff like that and it’d be great if the AI did as well. At least on a basic level where they become more sympathetic towards countries with similar ideologies. Yeah. And the ability to impose worker's paradises on the defeated decadent imperialist capitalist powers would have been a nice touch. That playthrough was also fun because I backed socialist France and we got stomped by the coalition of UK, Germany, and Russia. In part because I'd focused entirely in industry and culture and let my military tech, esp army tech languish. After the humiliating peace I invested much more heavily in military tech and in the next great war USSA troops occupied London.
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May 25, 2021 15:53
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really queer Christmas posted:I'd hope it gets a bit more interaction than "rush down these techs and hope you pop the inventions first" Oh for sure but that means I want more mechanics and sliders about becoming a Great Power via paintings and operas, not to remove paintings and operas
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May 25, 2021 15:56
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Star posted:I think many players do stuff like that and it’d be great if the AI did as well. At least on a basic level where they become more sympathetic towards countries with similar ideologies. It'd better make some sense, not just be something that AI does. For example fighting to defend a country of your ideology or imposing a specific ideology on a country should make some of your POPs happier, maybe jingoists and those who like the ideology.
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh for sure but that means I want more mechanics and sliders about becoming a Great Power via paintings and operas, not to remove paintings and operas The only deciding factor for being a GP is "can you enforce your will on other countries" gently caress "guess Brazil has the best painters so we have no choice but to sell them all the coal" The US didn't suddenly start respecting Mexico's sovereignty because Frida Kahlo painted good.
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May 25, 2021 16:25
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The only deciding factor for being a GP is "can you enforce your will on other countries" Mexico lost all their prestige from losing to a bunch of yokels in Texas. They needed a lot more painters imo. Also, cultural hegemony is a thing. If Mexico were to be a cultural phenomenon that had influence over the whole of Latin America because of their cultural output, would that not be a great power?
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May 25, 2021 16:42
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really queer Christmas posted:Mexico lost all their prestige from losing to a bunch of yokels in Texas. They needed a lot more painters imo. I mean, by those standards Rome and Greece were great powers right up to WW1.
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I really appreciate that there's a way to stay relevant as a mid-sized country in V2 by pumping your prestige and the trade-off seems pretty obvious: you can pile up nice paintings but then a mid-sized power declares war on you, tears through your obsolete troops, and takes half your country in the peace deal.
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Cockblocktopus posted:I really appreciate that there's a way to stay relevant as a mid-sized country in V2 by pumping your prestige and the trade-off seems pretty obvious: you can pile up nice paintings but then a mid-sized power declares war on you, tears through your obsolete troops, and takes half your country in the peace deal. The Austrian experience! (Sort of)
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Cockblocktopus posted:I really appreciate that there's a way to stay relevant as a mid-sized country in V2 by pumping your prestige and the trade-off seems pretty obvious: you can pile up nice paintings but then a mid-sized power declares war on you, tears through your obsolete troops, and takes half your country in the peace deal. B-b-but our MORAL SUASION 
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Zeroisanumber posted:I'm going to Civil War the South so hard that the shattered remains of Silent Sam will weep tears of blood. Then I'm going to Reconstruct them via mandatory miscegenation. Then I'm going to create a Stalinist workers state because America can't communist right. Give me the libsoc commune socialist America. This is a natural extension of the Enlightenment ideals that underpin our government! Liberty is paramount, and liberty can only be achieved when want, debt, ignorance, and oppression are destroyed. And if these loving slavers want to try and create a definition of unalienable rights with a "BUT" in a yes/no question, then we'll just go ahead and create a definition of reality where they're all loving dead. What I always had a lot of fun with, too, was trying to turn the Ottoman Empire around. It's doable, it's just also a lot of work, and you have to be constantly pointing sharp sticks at Russia, Austria, and Britain so they don't tear strips off your hide before you can get your population the nice things.
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Is there a Vicky 2 thread somewhere? I apparently played it for 24 hrs in 2012 and I remember some bugs that made it pretty unplayable and I bounced off it, but I'd like to give it another shot since I still own it on steam.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Is there a Vicky 2 thread somewhere? I apparently played it for 24 hrs in 2012 and I remember some bugs that made it pretty unplayable and I bounced off it, but I'd like to give it another shot since I still own it on steam. Best you'll find is probably this: https://lparchive.org/Victoria-II/
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really queer Christmas posted:Mexico lost all their prestige from losing to a bunch of yokels in Texas. They needed a lot more painters imo. Does Brazil care if this Mexico demands they make some trade concessions? What does this Mexico do if Brazil refuses?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Does Brazil care if this Mexico demands they make some trade concessions? What does this Mexico do if Brazil refuses? I think it's not supposed to be that nations will abstain from trade barriers, but that individual producers will want to sell their goods to prestigious places because people seeing their furniture or whatever in a museum will make them want to go buy similar items.
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Looks like Pdox has posted the slides from the art panel earlier today.
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